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I just read through the whole thread and listened to a few of the vids posted. I have friends that are dead heads and one plays bass in a cover band. I appreciate everyone commenting on what it is that they love about the Dead. I have just never been swept away by them, but I love the enthusiasm that the fans have for the band. I don’t dislike them, but they don’t really move me strongly one way or the other. I am envious that they don’t register strongly with me the way they do for you guys. Funnily enough, my favorite band was mentioned in this thread, the Beach Boys! I guess Brian Wilson is to me what Jerry Garcia is to you.

Felt like it needed a Git ur done?

Git ur done Beane!

It isn’t going to be easy, but look at it this way: 1. We will have far better testing for future waves 2. We will have way more of the necessary medical equipment available 3. Employers will be putting in policies to help mitigate transmissions in the work place. 4. We have some promising medical treatments whereas initially we were flying blind I know people find Fauci polarizing, and some would probably see it as CYA when he says we are so far below the model estimates because of how well we have followed the guidelines. I actually find this to be a genuine sentiment from him. You see pictures of NYC where there are no cars and no people. Due to the nature of NYC, I don’t know how long it will take to clean up the mess. I think most of the country will do well though.

I’m in the market, I was there, it started falling fast around February 20th. Furthermore, the reason it started to fall then was because it wasn’t until the middle of February that China looked to be approaching large numbers of infections. The market was concerned with the interruption to supply chains in China.

Wall Street was getting hit hard in the middle of February.

First user to go on my Ignore List, congratulations!????

He’ll have a hard time doing that when his own soundbytes say otherwise: Chang's comments come after Biden mocked President Donald Trump's position on China at a campaign rally last week saying "China is going to eat our lunch? Come on, man...they can't even figure out how to deal with the fact that they have this great division between the China Sea and the mountains in the east, I mean in the west." Biden continued "they can't figure out how they're going to deal with the corruption that exists within the system. I mean, you know, they're not bad folks, folks. But guess what, they're not, they're not competition for us." Chang also took issue with Biden's characterization of Chinese leaders saying "he also said Chinese leaders are good folks, we know those same Chinese leaders are committing crimes against humanity. Locking up 1.1, maybe 3 million Uighurs, in concentration camp-like facilities where a not insubstantial number of them are dying. I just don't understand why he made that comment."

How the heck would we test millions of people in January? You don’t just pull tests out of thin air. We are still a long ways away from being able to do testing on hundreds of millions of people. There was nothing we could do to prevent the spread of this virus once it was here in January, we could only slow the spread. Personally, I think it may have already been widespread in the US before anyone realized it. We had people in my office at work in December/January that had a cough that was lasting weeks and weeks. I had a coworker out in Rochester that was hospitalized for pneumonia and had chest x-rays back around January 10th. It will be interesting to see how things shake out when we have widespread antibody testing. Red flags were going off for me that something different was going around well before the first diagnosed case in the US.

We’ve done more than twice as much testing as any other nation. Generally, we’ve done better per capita than most nations as well. If Trump is incompetent, what does that make all the other world leaders who are asking for his help? He has proven to be the opposite of incompetent in this crisis, but whatever makes you sleep at night.

One of the reasons Europe got hit so hard was because the tests they were depending on from China were very inaccurate. The experts said in the briefing yesterday that they were working on testing in February and we now have the best testing in the world. Other countries that were hit 3 weeks before us are asking for our tests. The administration’s effort and results on every front has been outstanding so far.

I disagree. His tweets are responding to the media saying legally he can’t force them to open up. He is simply telling them that is incorrect. The governors shut things down and they can reopen them, he is not saying they can’t. Trump is saying that IF he has to force the state governor to act reasonably, then he does have the power to do so.

He is basically saying his team will communicate with State governments, letting them know their recommendations for reopening different counties based on their data. If he finds anyone to be pulling some political stunt to keep things closed beyond reason, then he will step in and force the issue.

People claiming Trump should have shut everything down in January are nuts. Deaths in Europe didn’t look out of the norm for one of these China diseases until mid-March. China has a new illness emerging every couple years. Should we immediately shut everything down EXCEPT infected travelers (because it would be racist/xenophobic) every time China causes another disease? Should people gets used to losing their jobs every 2-3 years because of China? That appears to be the Dem position if you follow their talking points. Good luck at the voting booths with that viewpoint!

He put a travel ban on Europe too! That was also met with the racism/xenophobia rhetoric. Where did Europe get the Coronavirus from? Are you trying to argue that China got the Coronavirus from Europe? Are you saying we shouldn’t have a travel ban on China because no countries can get the Coronavirus from China? The only sense that Trump could be blamed is in acknowledging that China used the Coronavirus as retaliation for the tariffs and trade policy changes that Trump fought for. I for one don’t think that justifies wielding a biological weapon, but Democrats would likely back the CCP like they back MS-13.

If Trump wasn’t president, we would still probably be taking in infected people from Wuhan, Italy, Spain, the UK, and elsewhere. Anyone else would back down to the PC/racism/xenophobia backlash for the travel bans. We would likely be over half a million dead by now. How anyone can point blame at the ONLY guy in the US Government that acted early is astounding. There are some not so bright people out there.

I’ve been meaning to watch it during this stay at home deal, I probably will in the next week or two. It also has a tremendous soundtrack!

I’m guessing it is less a case of honesty and is more or less a total lack of self awareness.

One of my absolute favorite movies!

Trump has been the only president fit for the job in my lifetime.

lol, they don’t like the briefings because he keeps winning. He is winning against the CoronaVirus and he is exposing the DNC media for what they are. They’ve gone as far as to push to stop airing the briefings because his approval numbers keep going up when people don’t see him through the DNC prism.

You gotta think anyone with kids would be hustling to get a job too. It will be interesting to see if wages change significantly one way or the other when places open up for hiring. My bigger fear is that many jobs that were there before may be eliminated for one reason or another. People need the job openings to return to.

People who do try and just take a free paycheck will pay for it in the end. Interviewers love to question employment gaps and kids looking to pay off student loans will be gunning for openings. A rational person would fear missing out on a job opportunity by indulging in short term greed.

Why is it that these so called life-long experts are always wrong and Trump is always right? Trump issues a travel ban that probably saved millions and millions of lives while the WHO and Fauci and the media called it racist. Now, shortly after Hydroxychloroquine trials have begun widespread use in NY we have the curve flattening and death rate reducing. Trump has common sense and the good of America as his sole priority. It may not be TDS, but everyone else seems to not put America first and they’ve even gone as far as to say the phrase “America First” is racist.

A better analogy would be if Lee took the resources to where McClellan was attacking, but directed McClellan’s troops to the defenseless areas, and then told the ill equipped troops that he won’t give them their troops and canons back, but he’ll give them cash instead.