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    RD 5, Pick 154: Siran Neal S - Jacksonville state

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    Posted · Edited by RocCityRoller

    my 2nd least favorite pick this draft at a gut level. Who? What is his position? What does he bring? Doesn't seem to have a position.

     

    Then I thought about B Scott, and Coy Wire and Kam Chancellor. Versatile DB/LB hybrids.

     

    Then I watched highlights, now I get it. This is a chess piece that loves to knock people's blocks off.

     

    He can be a 3rd DB in a dime, or a 2nd LB in a nickel with Edmunds. A luxury pick if you will.

    Haven't seen that in a while. Last big hitters among the DBs I recall were S Leanord Johnson, Winfield, Whitner and A Will.

    Has the versatility of Wire/Scott with the nasty of Johnson and such.

     

    Cool to bring the nasty. With Star/Phillips/Edmunds/Poyer and Neal the middle will be a place other teams will not want to test.

     

    I think that 3 game stretch centered with New Orleans gave McDermott nightmares. He wanted hitters and to stiffen the middle of the defense.

     

    I get the pick now. Specialist and a nasty attitude chess piece. I like it.

     

    Every good Defense needs a few technicians, a few psychopaths and a few filler guys in the right positions. This is a Psycopath, so is Poyer, while Hyde and Tre are technicians. I get it.

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    RD 1, Pick 16: Tremaine Edmunds OLB - Virginia Tech

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    Posted · Edited by RocCityRoller

    The only thing that concerns me with this pick is his age. A Okoyeye bottomed out quickly with Houston, but was a DL and got beat on more.

     

    Edmunds has everything else. I hope they pair Phillips with Kyle Williams, and Edmunds with Alexander as mentors.

     

    Edmunds can be a guy who changes how MLB is played in the league if he reaches his potential. Can't wait to see him and Tre White irritate the heck out of Gronk.

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    Did the Bills REALLY get their guy?

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    I've seen multiple sources indicate that the Bills had a trade in line with Denver at 5. The trade would have included #22 and a second round pick.

     

    Bean has said whether they played in a dome or not they would want Allen.

     

    When Cleveland passed on Chubb it meant Denver would not move, even with a sweetened deal of both 2'nds. They wanted to grab Chubb and pair him with Von Miller, who can blame them?

     

    Because Cleveland took S Denzel Ward, Bradley Chubb was available.

     

    It was well noted Indy did not want to move out of the top 10. Neither Arizona or Buffalo, or even New England could offer that.

     

    Both Arizona and Buffalo raced to get the pick with Tampa. Buffalo had more capital than Arizona did. Buffalo got the trade.

     

    They took Allen over Rosen. They had the choice.

     

    And they were able to get Edmunds, one of the top 3 LBs available, by keeping the second 1st round pick.

     

    Allen's comparables are closest to Brett Favre for upside. Yes Buffalo got who they wanted, and got Edmunds in as a bonus because of Cleveland being Cleveland.

     

    This first round may go on to be legendary. Allen will take 2-3 years to develop, so will Edmunds. 3 years from now we could have baby Favre and a game changing MLB entering his 2nd year from the same round. We have to give this the long view. The 5-11's to 8-8 years will allow this team to continue to build.

     

    Count me in for the long haul. I like our chances a few years from now.

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    Josh Allen Background Video Stories

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    This kid's comparables, background, play style, arm, stats, college competition, upside, downside, strengths and weaknesses are Brett Favre.

     

    We have a potential Brett Favre. No QB has been as successful under the magic 58.5% Sr. completion % since Favre. If anyone can do it I think it's Allen.

     

    Look at his Senior Bowl film. Escapability, poise, steps up into the pocket, runs for fist downs, arm strength and even touch. The stage was not too big for him.

     

    Be patient with this kid. Year 3 and it clicks, and we have baby Favre, and a 22 yr old Edmunds just entering his prime and changing the way MLB is played.

     

    The McBeane plan is over many years (2-3) but it can be game changing. Give this kid a chance.

     

     

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    RD 7 - Austin Proehl WR NC

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    Posted · Edited by RocCityRoller

    9 hours ago, Jpsredemption said:

    It earned garbage status when they overpaid for a QB who was a sub 60 Passer against typically inferior competition.

     

    So was Brett Favre

     

    Final college year stat comparison:

     

    QB A - 150 CMP/ 275 ATT - 54.5%, 1572 YARDS, 5.7 Y/A, 7 TD, 6 INT 106.6 RATE

    QB B - 152 CMP/ 270 ATT - 56.3%, 1812 YARDS, 6.7 Y/A, 16 TD, 6 INT 127.8 RATE

     

    QB A is Brett Favre, QB B is Josh Allen

     

    Can't you hope for one minute we landed the next Brett Favre? See bottom of page.

    https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/205086-rd1-pick-7-josh-allen-qb-wyoming/?page=63

     

    PS take a shot on Proehl. His dad was a witch. Never put up big numbers, but made soul crushing catches like Danny Amendola. I'm sure the connection between Proehl and McDermott helped. But at round 7 why not?

    RD1, Pick 7: Josh Allen QB - Wyoming

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    Posted · Edited by RocCityRoller

    I didn't want Allen. I also didn't want Rosen or Jackson.

     

    My preferences were:

    Darnold

    Mayfield

    Rudolph

     

    With Mayfield and Darnold gone, and Buffalo moving up to 7 I knew it would be Allen, which was the best of Allen/Rosen/Jackson to me.

     

    I am leary of the sub 58.5% final year completion rate. It's got about a 0.9 correlation with success or failure in the NFL (very high correlation).

     

    But I took a day to absorb it and started looking for best case scenario comparables.

     

    I needed to find a big country boy, with escape ability, a big arm, a cheery disposition, a gunslinger mentality (will take chances, throw some wow TDs and some head slapping INTS), and underwhelming college stats against fairly weak college competition.

     

    I found the best case comp I can hope for.

     

    Final college year stat comparison:

     

    QB A - 150 CMP/ 275 ATT - 54.5%, 1572 YARDS, 5.7 Y/A, 7 TD, 6 INT 106.6 RATE

    QB B - 152 CMP/ 270 ATT - 56.3%, 1812 YARDS, 6.7 Y/A, 16 TD, 6 INT 127.8 RATE

     

    QB A is Brett Favre, QB B is Josh Allen

     

    Those of you younger fans know of Brett Favre the Hall of Fame QB, but he had a very bumpy start. His first game action was Nathan Peterman esque. 0 comp on 4 attempts, 2 INTS, a sack and an incompletion. He was so bad Atlanta gave up on him after a year, he never saw the field again for them. Their coach didn't even want him drafted. GB had wanted him and took him.

     

    IMO our best case scenario with Allen is Favre. It's the most honest best case benchmark I can find.

     

    Favre was a light hearted, big armed, scrambling gunslinger. He would make wow plays and some real head scratchers. GB won with Favre and often lost with Favre. We have to let Josh Allen be Josh Allen. Favre's first year was effectively a sit year (played in the one 'Peterman'  game in Atlanta).

     

    His first two years as a starter (yrs 2-3 in the NFL)  were ok:

    13 games (8-5) 302 CMP/ 471 ATT - 64.1%, 3227 YARDS, 6.9 Y/A, 18 TD, 13 INT 85.3 RATE

    16 games (9-7) 318 CMP/ 522 ATT - 60.9%, 3303 YARDS, 6.3 Y/A, 19 TD, 24 INT 72.2 RATE

     

    That's a whopping 62% completion rate, 37 tds to 37 ints, 17-12 record. That was in year 2 and 3.

     

    When Favre retired he had improved but retired with the most INTS thrown in NFL history. But Favre was always looking to keep plays alive, ran a round like a chicken with his head cut off and always looked downfield for a big play, and a times trusted his arm too much. Looking at Allen's college film the past two days, this is what I see with Allen. The GB coaching staff had to reign in Favre at times, I think we will see that with Allen too.We will also see dazzling plays and head scratching Ints.

     

    I think Favre is our best case scenario for Allen. If we get close to that then Allen will be a spectacular pick.

     

    Another note, Cam Newton another comparable also has similar traits. Notice how Carolina helps Cam with his accuracy issues by getting big receivers with a large catch radius? Favre's favorite target in his early years wasn't a WR but Sharpe, a big fast TE with a large catch radius. (EDIT Sharpe was a big bodied WR with a big catch radius, I was corrected per below, but the point stands) Benjamin and Jones (that was his calling card in college) do fit that bill.

     

    Well, I just wanted to share that for what it's worth.

     

    Welcome to Buffalo Josh Allen. I hope we are patient enough to see you blossom into the QB you can become.

     

     

     

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    RD1, Pick 7: Josh Allen QB - Wyoming

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    3 hours ago, Billsflyer12 said:

    But 1st round QB draft picks don't get time to learn.

     

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    And a lot of those guys failed. Lets look at the list of some guys who did get to wait, in the relatively modern era

    Tom Brady - 17

    Aaron Rogers - 48

    Patrick Mahomes - 16

    Brett Favre - 19

    Jay Cutler - 12

     

    maybe a key is to be patient and sit

    Buffalo Buds Draft Grades

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    22 minutes ago, #34fan said:

     

    Oh but I DID have a clue... A big clue was that Johnson has never had any contact or correspondence from BUF... A 4th rounder?

     

    -That's not a exactly a low pick... These geniuses never reached out in any way to a kid they had eyes on in that round?

     

    He was on the Bills board, alright... The DART-board these idiots used to draft him.

     

    Bills were at his Pro Day, but hey continue on your Warpath of misery.

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    Day 3 of draft rounds 4-7 let’s talk

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    3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

    Just take a QB with this last pick. Take a chance. You never know. It’s pretty much a throw away pick anyway. Just take a QB and let him be the 4th guy through camp and the starter of that last Preseason game. You never know. If Faulk is still there, that’s who I want.

     

    There goes Luke Falk

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