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14 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:
How do you know things won't get better?
As far as your question of "What have you seen that indicates this?" For one thing, they got the Bills to the playoffs last year. I know, you will probably say they backed in. The fact is the won enough games to qualify for the playoffs. Management is getting us out of a financial mess. This season needed to happen. We are all guessing what will happen. Until I am proven wrong, I like to believe that things will improve. You like to things will stay the same or get worse.
I prefer my outlook. If focusing on all the bad things that can happen in the future brings you comfort, then best of luck to you.
We both want the same thing. I just dont have the "trust them or they know best mindset". I am not impressed and dont have faith in them with that I have seen thus far. The offense and Peterman repeatedly starting is beyond comprehension.
2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:I didn't say it didn't fall on him. You asked what my eyes told me. My eyes told me the Head Coach can coach. My eyes also tell me that the offensive personnel evaluation of the pair of them is bad. I was not absolving McDermott of any fault. I was separating coaching from talent evaluation.
Which begs the question "can you win without talent"? I think we are seeing the answer this year. What do we do if McD can coach but sucks at player evaluation? That sound like he is better suited to be a Def Coord than a head coach.
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10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Because I don't think the offense is flawed through coaching. It is flawed through the most pathetic collection of offensive talent I have ever seen on an NFL team. It is talent evaluation sinking this offense. They just have a lot of really bad players. There only two players on this offense in my view (McCoy and Dawkins) who would start for ANY of the other 31 teams in the league.
Their personnel decisions on offense have sucked. Making coaching it almost impossible.
I agree with you that. I guess I find it hard to believe that McD and Beane are so out of sync that this should not fall on McD. How can he be trusted as a coach when he allowed his team to go into the season with these players? Its beyond belief. My opinion is his ego is so big he thinks players matter less than coaches. I have been around many coaches with that mindset. That may work in high school or even college to an extent. But not in the NFL. Even Belichek who gets so much credit would not be who he is without Brady.
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33 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:
They have improved the defense. I believe the offense will follow.
Being optimistic is so much better that running around yelling that the sky is falling.
What is being accomplished by all this negativity?
If I have a choice to believe in people that have devoted their adult life to footfall or the people freaking out on TBD, I will choose the former.
They are 14th in yards allowed and 22nd in points allowed. That is considered improved? They were 17th and 19th in 2016 and 15th and 19th in 2015. So we are almost as good as we were before McD was hired. Ok, its debatable but even if we say its improved its not enough to justify how bad the offense is.
Fans can choose their own behaviors. Some like to watch the games and analyze strategy. Some like the big hits or amazing plays. Some like the commercials or the dances or whatever. Being negative as you call it is not trying to accomplish anything. It is a discussion that people like to have as what they enjoy talking about. Its a debate - is the team headed in the right direction, what players should they keep, who should they draft etc. Its part of the fun for many people. While others have a mindset of just watch and be a cheerleader. Everyone on your team is the best and when they leave they are now the worst.
13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:My eyes are telling me that McDermott can lead and he can coach. My eyes are also telling me that their personnel plan on offense has been flawed and confused.
Why can he coach if his offense has been this flawed? Is offense not important? In todays football arguably much more important.
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2 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:
The thing that I do not understand with those that are freaking out. We expected this season to be what it had become. Things will get better beginning next year. Take a deep breath....and relax.
How do you know things will get better? What have you seen that indicates this?
It is interesting how fans want to defend their team or their coaches despite what is being seen. Every coach in the first year or two will have those that say "trust the process" or "it takes time" or whatever other excuse. Sometimes you have to trust what your eyes are telling you.
I ask again.
For the "what did you expect" or "they have nothing to work with" crowd:
Why is hard to see that they are historically bad? This is beyond the normal we knew it would be like this. They are on pace to break some records for ineptitude. Think about this:
They have half as many points scored as the 49ers and CJ Beathard led offense. The team lost both its starting QB and RB. An awful team. I could down the list of other teams and you will find more of the same. It is atrocious. And here we go trotting out a guy that throws a pick every 8 pass attempts and has no business being in the league.
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For the "what did you expect" or "they have nothing to work with" crowd:
Why is hard to see that they are historically bad? This is beyond the normal we knew it would be like this. They are on pace to break some records for ineptitude. Think about this:
They have half as many points scored as the 49ers and CJ Beathard led offense. The team lost both its starting QB and RB. An awful team. I could down the list of other teams and you will find more of the same. It is atrocious. And here we go trotting out a guy that throws a pick every 8 pass attempts and has no business being in the league.
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Not the fans job. Nothing wrong with expecting better. Expecting at a minimum a group that does not continue to trot out Peterman as starting QB. That makes the Bills organization the joke of the NFL. When they signed Terrelle Pryor local and national media joked or maybe is serious that he should be starting QB. It is sad. We should expect and deserve better but dont need to have all the answers as fans.
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3 minutes ago, Steptide said:
I think every bills fan hopes he redeems himself somehow.
As they say "every dog has its day"
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Joke of the NFL. This is how players lose respect for their coach.
Season is done anyway. I hope he throws a bunch of picks and they are forced to cut him. The guy should not be on any NFL roster.
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1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said:
Goff was considered a bust and wasted pick ,by many, 2 years ago. The Rams were a complete dumpster fire.
A lot can happen with a QB on his rookie contract and cap space .
No no no. Everyone expected the Rams to be the surprise team last year. They went 11-5 and Goff played well. It is not the same as here or even close.
The year before they struggled and that was more expected with Goff starting the second half of the yea. Most did not call him a bust and expected him to be solid going into 2017.
In 2016 they were 4-12 and fired the coach mid year. McVay came in and did not purge the roster. He added key pieces and kept many of the prior regime players. It is ego driven mistakes like turning over an entire roster that set teams back.
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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:
No offense Gunner, but did you even bother to read the title of this thread? It says "BRANDON BEANE" deserves to be fired, not McD. So once again, Mahomes and Watson have ZERO to do with this as Beane was still with Carolina at that time.
Second, I am tired of this fan narrative that insists McD, a first time HC, has some kind of absolute power in that draft with Whaley. Whaley was the GM, unless you show me proof McD has final authority of the draft, I dont want to hear about this anymore. More importantly, that draft was SCOUTED by WHALEYS team all year, McD had just gotten hear. So all info, scouting reports, etc had been compiled by the Whaley regime for the past year. So even if you want to believe the Bills gave a first time HC final authority over the draft, he was working with Whaleys team to make those decisions.
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That's a bit of a departure from McDermott's answer the last few months, when he consistently praised Whaley and touted a strong working relationship. McDermott did credit Whaley and his staff for helping to orchestrate the Bills' blockbuster trade, but it was also clear McDermott was the one calling the shots. When asked whether the Bills considered trading down again at 27, McDermott spoke in the first person.
"Yeah, we looked at a couple things," McDermott said. "I didn't feel or we didn't feel like it was right at this time. We looked at a couple of situations that were on the table as well at 27. We had a chance to get a good solid football player and I wasn't passing that up."
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Stop with the it’s all part of the plan. He neeeds a longer leash. He inherited a crappy roster and cap hell. All just excuses. It’s one thing to lose. But to be record setting bad. Just the fact he still has peterman as his back up an is all we need to know. At any point he could have a number of upgrades. But his ego and stubbornness get in the way. Imagine if last night was a one score game when
anderson got hurt? He was again putting the game on peterman. Simply rudiculous.
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26 minutes ago, fridge said:
Are the stats for Tyrod 1 supposed to be incredible? Only in Buffalo do those stats look like they break records. At least 10 teams get that production week in and week out.
Try again. That would have led the league in passing yards. Brady avg 286 last season and led the league.
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27 minutes ago, Augie said:
Rex took a great defense and managed to foul it up. His ego forced him to do it his way, which hasn’t worked in recent memory. McD is working with a lack of talent as the cupboard was pretty bare upon arrival. Oh, and Rex was a loud mouth rah rah kind of guy, which I just personally tend to dislike.
Having said that, if he can’t get the offense going in the right direction, it will lead to the end of the McD era, as it should, but not until he’s had an adequate opportunity to fix things. The revolving door of impatience is a sure way to have a mess on your hands.
So the decline is Rex fault. But for McD it is planned? And Rex ruined he defense equals being the 15-16th best in the league. Meanwhile McD defense is 16-18th best at that is called elite.
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4 minutes ago, Augie said:
As he SHOULD. Enough with tearing it down before we know what they’re really building. (Rex was the exception, but he was just a terrible mistake.)
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Why was Rex a terrible mistake but McD is not? I dont like either this far. But dont get the Rex was obviously bad when he outperformed McD.
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3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
Rex.... inherited very talented team that should have done much better then it did
McD....coaching a team with very little offensive talent......and in his first year made the playoffs.....
How can the team be talented with Rex, but McD its not? The majority of Rex guys could have been McD guys right? Taylor, Shady, Watkins, etc.
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6 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:
Actually he does not.
With Rex we were 15-16 .484
Coach McDermott presently is sitting on 11-11 .500 If you count playoffs, then yeah, he's 11-12. .478
Getting the coach fired worked for them with Rex. Why not crank it up again? They need clicks evidently.
I think what they're doing this year stinks to high heaven. But I would give them the rest of this year and next. If the win total does not go up by at least 3, they'd probably be out.
9-7 and 2-5 = 11-12 or 11-13 incl playoffs
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Which Tyrod do you prefer:
Tyrod 1
28-42, 274 YD, 1 TD, 1 INT
21-38, 291 YD, 3 TD
18-30, 297 YD, 3 TD, 1 INT
27-38, 289 YD, 1 TD, 1 INT
26-39, 329 YD, 3 TD
29-40, 285 YD, 2 TD
21-38, 281 YD
Tyrod 2
10-17, 109 YD, 1 TD
11-12 , 181 YD, 1 TD
17-27, 158 YD, 1 TD
20-27, 165 YD, 1 TD
12-18, 166 YD, 1 TD
17-24, 174 YD, 1 TD
14-19, 195 YD, 1 TD
Tyrod 1 breaks all kinds of passing records. Throws for over 4,000 yards and 30+ TD's. Tyrod 2 must suck, leads to 30th passing attack in the league. He should be replaced by Peterman. Wait Tyrod 1 team is 0-7. Tyrod 2 team is 7-0.
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What do people miss about how BAD this team is? That is never expected. You can expect to be rebuilding but this team has very little to be positive about. Go watch the Rams from a few years since people like to compare. They did not look like the Bills. The had multiple building blocks. We will be in year three shortly and have no weapons for the future on offense - WR, RB or TE. The OL has Dawkins and no one that could be considered a building block. The QB position is still a huge ?. The defense has much more potential but outside of White and Edmunds there are guys that will age out in the next few season - Williams, Hughes, Alexander, Star L, etc.
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NFL - Any team can win on any given day. Bills can win and wind up 4-12 and the Pats could lose and be 12-4 to end the year.
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5 hours ago, klos63 said:
It seems that the Pegula's don't realize that while you are tanking, other teams in the league are trying to improve, further increasing the gap to reach a playoff position.
They miss the days of every kid gets a turn. Come on owners its Terry's turn, he has been waiting patiently like a good boy.
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9 minutes ago, fridge said:
Holy crap is that hilarious. Somehow, despite all his failures, the national consensus is still that Taylor was some sort of franchise QB we tossed away.
No. He was a QB that did not throw multiple picks per game and could at least run the offense and not let games get out of hand. He limited turnovers and could use his legs to mask issues with the OL and lack of other weapons. He kept you in games if the Defense played well. If the Defense struggled it was going to be a long day. Not a franchise QB but a decent placeholder until you find one.
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Look at the Sabres. Why would people expect much different? They bought a team that was a playoff regular, in a league that is easy to make the playoffs, and the team has gone on to miss them for nearly a decade. That is absurd.
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1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
that is a ridiculous charge for drunk in public . It not like Chad attacked the family or was argumentative. Hell he wasn't even at the residence when he got picked, he could have just been drunk at the theater and fit the description.
this will get dissmissed.
In some states he could have been legally shot.
It is trespassing no matter how you look at it. He was not drunk either. He was high on something or mentally ill. He was identified by the guy at the house. Guessing he pleads to some lesser charge and pays a fine and community service. But NFL could suspend him as well.
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Would have instantly been our #1.
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Nick mullens
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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The fire someone for missing out on this guy is obviously sarcastic. But the sad thing really is we keep trotting out Peterman rather than taking a look at guys like Mullins or anyone else. It is either ego driven or just laziness. No rock unturned does not apply to qb?