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51 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Palmer
Shakir
Coleman
Samuel
Shenault
On paper at least.....once again it's a below average group
I'm usually a pessimist, but I'm not a #1 receiver type of person. I prefer the 'everybody eats' mentality. Because that, paired with good defense is what wins championships IMO.
I do like this group for the way the offense is designed. What Coleman doe in year 2 is going to have a huge impact. If we see a healthy Samuel that also helps. I really like the Palmer add. In my mind Shavers is in, but Shenault has a chance.
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36 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Yea some of it is scheme obviously. Not sure all those linebackers are scheme fits here but then Joseph really wasn't naturally their type either. If I remember right he had the lower RAS score in the entire draft. And they spent a 5th on him. I remember on that year's draft video McDermott who has clearly never heard of him asking Joe Schoen "what does he do?" And Schoen being like an excited puppy "he plays inside, he plays outside, he can blitz, core special teams".
We found out in time what he could do. Sweet FA.
What makes Gordon v Elam even more confusing to me was Gordon was clearly the better scheme fit on tape. I'd genuinely love Brandon Beane to sit me down and walk me through what they saw and why. If it was Kaiir vs nobody I see the ceiling potential of Kaiir and why that is inticing. But if it is Kaiir vs an athletic freak who fits your scheme and has better tape I don't see it. Maybe Gordon had a medical or an off field that never came out? That might be it I suppose.
My best guess is they saw Gordon as a nickel. But I agree. The film on McDuffie and Gordon...they both showed really good acumen in zone, they tackle and both turned into really good player IMO.
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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Quay Walker is respectable in that he has started a lot of games. I fully expect Green Bay not to pick up his 5th year option though. He has been a tick better than replacement level. Sure that is still better than Elam but if you spend a 1st on an off ball linebacker that guy better be a star or else that's a bad allocation of assets. Similar when you take a center tbh, but as ever it seems.... the Ravens made the right gamble.
My bigger complaint was always I had 7 corners that year with 1st or 2nd round grades (Elam was #7). Sauce, Stingley and McDuffie had gone. That meant four were left. Let's leave out Andrew Booth for now because the story at the time was the medicals were horrific and he has barely been healthy and not looked healthy even when he has. So maybe it was down to 6 because the Bills are pretty risk averse on that stuff he was likely off the board. That means even if the Bills were adament it had to be corner there were three guys left: in order of my ranking - Kyler Gordon; Roger McCreary; Kaiir Elam. Gordon has developed into a high end corner. McCreary (who I never saw as a scheme fit for the Bills... but then likewise Elam) started as an outside corner for a year and a half in Tennessee where he was average and then was moved inside and is a good slot. And Kaiir.... well we know how that went. I'd love to know what the Bills thought of Gordon. To me he was a much simpler scheme fit and had much better tape. He had a higher RAS score as well from memory. Love to know what put them off him. And they weren't the only ones btw. The Athletic have run a piece since on the process of the Chiefs trade up for McDuffie and they had two first round graded corners left at that point..... McDuffie and Elam. What were the pros seeing that I wasn't in the Gordon / Elam comparison? And this isn't an effort to point out I was proved right. It is a genuine question to try and better understand what pro teams are looking for in those evaluations.
That is my biggest issue how some of these drafts play out and it is a black eye on prospect evaluations. You are specifically targeting a corner, work them all out, and this is the one you pick? To spend so many man hours in your scouting and come at this result is just bad. And I get it, that this happens to all teams. But that doesn't make it ok. Like you said, I would love to know what this process was actually like.
In 2019 they are targeting a LB in the fifth round and pick Vosean Joseph who never even played a down in the NFL. It was literally 1 pick before Dre Greenlaw. Andrew Van Ginkel, Mack Wilson, Blake Cashman all starters in the league, went shortly there after. It's a scouting failure to be targeting a specific position and just fail so badly at the evaluation.
It's probably how Saints fans felt when they took Payton Turner in front of Greg Rousseau and Jason Oweh and others. It's a fail.
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Totally would take him back. We didn’t see the best version of him.
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19 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said:
Found Beane’s lurker account.
Man I am such a Beane/McDermott hater that it makes sense. Its the perfect cover-
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I dunno man. Everyone making fun of this guy but he makes people look silly in some highlights. He looks like a YAC monster. Maybe we will be pleasantly surprised. Def a Tabor pick
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Assuming Chris Tabor wanted him. He had him in Carolina as special teams coordinator.
Seems gadgety but runs hard and you never know. Like someone said up thread, sometimes guys like this take awhile like a Cordarelle
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2 hours ago, BearNorth said:
didn't this guy play in the same defensive backfield as Sauce Gardner?
They crossed over 2 years
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Just now, jkeerie said:
It's got to be the neck issues that are keeping Samuel unsigned at this point. Beane has to have a plan, though, since he traded Kair. I'm also wondering if the back to back concussions are contributing to the wait on a Benford extension.
Yeah, I tend to agree, but we said the same thing in 2022 and his plan back then was to back himself into needing a specific positon and that resulted in a trade-up and reach for a crap corner. So I just hope he learned from that mistake and history does not repeat itself.
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21 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Anyone but Douglas pls.
Thoughts on Samuel, Okudah, or anyone else left of substance?
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4 minutes ago, nosejob said:
My 3 picks that year were Vita Vea, Rudolph and James Washington, thinking we were gonna stick where we were slotted and thinking we could move a spot or 2 for Vea.
Vea went with our original pick yeah?
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For his wedding, he should pick a random Bils fan and give the 1 million for fun. Hopefully me.
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52 minutes ago, Logic said:
Get me a Dion Dawkins restructuring to free up $10million, a Benford extension, and Asante Samuel Jr, and then bring on the draft and get me BPA all day.
The one thing I will say is that I do not believe they will sign two corners. If they add a Samuel on a long-term deal I don't think they extend Benford. If they extend Benford I think they add a very cheap vet and draft a guy. Meaning I don't think they will pay two corners. Have one long-term guy and one young guy making minimum and churn through that every 4 years. I could be wrong. But just thinking about cap allocation...unless Samuel comes in cheaper than I think.
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2 minutes ago, Gregg said:
Wilson is meeting with the Browns today and the Giants tomorrow. Both the Steelers and Giants are showing the most interest in Rodgers. Have to think Wilson is plan B for both teams if they can't sign him. Now if Wilson signs with the Browns, then I don't know what plan C will be for the team that doesn't get Rodgers.
Jamies Winston? Maybe he is more like plan D
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They need to add a starting caliber corner so we don't repeat that same fate.
We never addressed the position, talked up Dane jackson and got forced into a reach pick. Not to mention we traded up. It is what it is, obviously it was a mistake and its over. I am simply saying, if this regime really has "learned from it" then they will add a starting level corner here at some point.
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21 minutes ago, H2o said:
He could end up being their starter is A-A-Ron doesn't sign there.
man...the noodle arm with George Pickens and DK Metcalf...gonna be fun to sit back and watch the world burn
10 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:Mason lived in a gated community for sure, and always had a nice Christmas 😂
Can't stand him.
Or Kelce. I'd fight him and happily get destroyed, just let me land one punch.
Yeah, I have hated him since draft time. Imagine if we did not get Josh...he was probably going to be the pick. Beane and McDermott would be selling insurance somewhere now.
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8 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:
Mason Rudolph back to the Steelers
God I hate that guy
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On Cooper Kupp, wasn't there a picture of him online with a Bills hat on? Like is he really a Bills fan? Maybe he would want to come help us win a title.
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3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Might be a draft day trade.... could we still be interested? Would be an INSANE rotation and 3rd down "racecar" package
I feel like with the Bosa deal this shipped has sailed. But as a lot of people have mentioned, Bengals likely don't trade with us anyway.
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14 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/72547/darrick-forrest
Only $1.2M cap hit, only $167k guaranteed. Really a low risk signing.
This is what teh Hamlin and Gilliam contracts should have been. JMO. Absolutely no risk here.
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6 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:
27m ago
Dianna Russini·
Senior Writer, NFL
Latest on Trey Hendrickson
Teams are willing to pay Trey Hendrickson the contract that he desires but have found Cincinnati’s current asking price to be “ridiculous,” as one GM told me.
The Bengals can adjust as the offseason progresses, but right now, teams aren’t willing to meet their terms.
Bengals gonna Bengal.
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14 hours ago, Magox said:
Cover one guys had a nice chat with our new DE and how he gets his FG blocks
I'm sure Matt Smiley was covering this level of detail with the field goal block team...
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10 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:
Does he ever play ?
I don't remember a FB being used in the offense.
Not even in the tush push against the chiefs in the playoffs
Yeah, I agree. He can block and catch, yet they use an extra offensive lineman in his place. It seems like he is purely a special teams player.
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Free Agency Rumor Thread
in The Stadium Wall
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They can't even tank for Manning because their defense should be pretty good. They just need a game manager for a year.