MrEpsYtown
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6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
I think the part of my post that you missed is that shuffling doesn't result in a meaningfully "better" guy. They're all in the same bucket career-wise and they take turns year to year being better than one another.
Yep I agree, but it does result in a much cheaper guy, and to me that 5 million dollars could be much better served elsewhere. The results may be the same or worse, but would be much much cheaper. I get what you are saying and I think Bass is a shuffle guy, not a commitment guy.
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57 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
If you want one of those guys, you kinda need to get lucky, because most other teams are just shuffling the same guys around. As of right now, Bass has the 25th highest career kicking percentage. Other contemporaries like Gay (15th), Hopkins (17th), Santos (19th), Meyers(21st) have played for 3,3,5, and 3 teams respectively. These guys are very, very good in a historical perspective and yet they keep getting cut and shuffled elsewhere.
That's what the Bills should be doing. Just shuffling guys through until you hit on one. Paying Bass 5 million plus per was just a bad mistake. He is a middle guy.
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6 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:
Contracts can always be adjusted, happens all the time.
Maybe he takes a big jump in 2024 and we have to talk about how underpaid he is.
I hope so!
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21 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:
Hindsight is always 20-20.
Bass didn’t give anyone any reason to think he wouldn’t continue his upward trajectory in 2023. He was an 87% kicker the previous 2 seasons and started 9-9 this year before the wheels feel off.
What caused those wheels to fall off is a much more interesting conversation that likely is deeper than ‘bAsS SuCks” in my opinion.
The reality is:
Weeks 1-5 he was 9-9 on FGs
Weeks 6-7 he was 1-4 on FGs
Weeks 8-11 he was 6-6 on FGs.
Week 12 he was 2-4 on FGs.
Weeks 13-17 he was 6-6 on FGs.
Two Playoff games 2-5 on FGs.
Bass was streaky but had plenty of good in 2023.
The problem is that he is being paid like a top-ten kicker, which he isn't and probably never was going to be. You can get the same production from street-free agents or UDFAs. That's my issue. He was pretty good, but he isn't a top kicker and we should have never paid him 5 million plus per. Point being, average to above average kickers are a dime a dozen type guys.
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17 minutes ago, BigDingus said:
It's not just how many he missed, it's about % of misses vs attempts and from what distance. Bass was ranked 21st in FG% out of kickers who had 20+ attempts.
Tucker (86.5%) - 32 of 37 (including 31 of 32 under 50 yards)
Sanders (85.7%) - 24 of 28 (including 19 of 21 under 50 yards)
McPherson (83.9%) - 26 of 31 (including 19 of 19 under 50 yards / 7 of 12 from 50+)
Bass (82.9%) - 24 of 29 (including 20 of 23 under 50 yards)
So you're right in that Bass isn't super far off, but he's still not great either. All of McPherson's misses were from 50+ yards, as were all but 1 from Tucker.
And this is why you don't pay Bass. He is not elite. He is ok. And the difference between a good kicker and an average kicker is minimal. Pay elite guys, the rest of these guys are a dime a dozen.
The same rules apply to punters. KC let Tommy Townsend go for big money and now have a league minimum competition happening between Matt Araiza and Ryan Rehkow, two guys who are better than what we have and probably better than half the league. Stop paying punters and kickers.
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I am pretty sure he is going to sign with the Lions. They have Michael Badgley who has always been up and down and Bates is smashing Balls in that stadium.
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I'd do a small fast guy at this point, a guy who can play inside and outside and bring some great deep speed as a WR4 here. I suppose that role is carved out for Mack Hollins or Claypool/Isabela/Hamler right now. You have two big guys and two small guys.
Mecole Hardman - 5-10, 187, 4.33 forty. He's dynamic and can be used as a gadget player though he can make plays down the field. Better than Hamler and Isabella competing for that same role. He also gives you a dynamic return option. I am not sure he would be happy down the depth chart the same way he was with the NY Jets, but I think he could carve out a strong role.
Scotty Miller - 5-9, 174, 4.28 forty. He is not a gadget player. He is a deep-threat type of player. He was at his best playing with Tom Brady and working the intermediate to deep areas of the field. Was Quintin Morris' teammate at Bowling Green.
Jamal Agnew - 5-10, 186, 4.34 forty. Really a dynamic return guy more than anything. He was drafted as a corner and wound up making the transition to full time wide receiver. Not going to move the needle a crazy amount, but perfect for that 4 role.
Anyway, that may be uninspiring to some, but I just don't see them making a huge move for a huge salary. It doesn't seem to make sense. If you really do like Hollins/Claypool/Hamler/Isabella and Shorter/Shavers it doesn't make a ton of sense to add any of these lower-level guys.
Spitballing here, I could see a trade for a young guy getting pushed out like Terrance Marshall Jr. Does Indy make Alec Pierce available? A guy who hasn't been a great fit in that offense and has now been replaced with AD Mitchell. Pierce fits what the Bills have been trying to add, bigger, faster, stronger. I could see the Patriots moving Tyquan Thornton who is blocked after FA and the draft. Perhaps Chicago moves Velus Jones. Maybe Washington's Dyami Brown. Maybe Houston's John Metchie. Maybe a Danny Gray from SF. I think a trade for a young guy who hasn't really got a shot and got lost in coaching changes like Marshall and Pierce are more likely than a trade for a big expensive vet.
I would love Aiyuk. I do not see it happening.
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I would advise everyone to hold off on buying a Cole Bishop jersey as he probably takes 8 as soon at is available.
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7 hours ago, transient said:
I would love to see the team that faces them second rest their starters and give a half-ass effort as a “yeah, well FU right back” to Goodell.
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He’s very good obviously. I hate him because he is a whiney biotch. He replaced Brady as the bad sportsmanship complainer who cries and moans when he doesn’t get his way.
What makes it worse is the refs feed into it all.
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Just now, KDIGGZ said:
How so?
His whole first-down celebration when time was of the essence was just the ultimate dumb, selfish mistake. I don't know if that represents the rest of his play and everything else about him but that was one of the most boneheaded moments in NFL history that more or less cost his team the game. Doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a second chance, so I am willing to wait and see.
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I will say a lot of people on this board were banging the table for Claypool in his draft year and he never made it to us in the second round.
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Interesting guys. Claypool...I didn't realize he was so young. Maybe there is something there. This is probably his last shot. He ran a awful, lazy, route to end that Dolphins game. That's my last memory, but he's the same age as some of the guys drafted this year. So who knows?
Smoot essentially replaces Shaq Lawson. He's been a good rotational player and is supposed to be a real good dude. Jones is linebacker depth. He used to be very good.
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I felt good about him, until he said well done steak…
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Just now, Coach Tuesday said:
You are a dork for quoting The Mandalorian.
I have spoken.
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3 minutes ago, NORWOODS FOOT said:
Makes me chuckle too. Gotta take laughs where you can get them these days.PS I was born in Youngstown OH. Is that the Ytown in your name?
Ah cool! No Yorktown, NY...Lacrosse town USA
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19 hours ago, NORWOODS FOOT said:
Yeah, most surprising to me is McCarthy. I like him. Seems like a good dude with tenacity. But nothing that I saw at Michigan screamed franchise QB to me other than his grit. I have a hard time seeing his ceiling as anything higher than “game manager with occasional flashes”. Maybe O’Connell can scheme up ways to help him over achieve.
I have no take on Maye. Never really watched him.
They replaced Kirk Cousins with a cheaper Kirk Cousins with a stupid haircut.
2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:sufficiently comfortable with Penix
This makes me chuckle.
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It is cool that they are inviting all these UB guys. Once-in-a-lifetime experience and you go home with some swag. And sometimes you find a Cam Lewis or J'Marcus Ingram.
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9 minutes ago, H2o said:
I think that they will get to be here in 2025 unless there is an extreme drop-off. The only way they are ousted is if they go something like 5-12 and McDermott loses the team.
I think this is part of what goes into the reset as well. With all the new blood and fresh young leaders, they can't lose the team. The other group was getting very stale. This reset changes the attitude in the room. So unless Josh turns on them, they will be here.
I am not implying they reset the roster to buy themselves time. I am just saying the reset was badly needed and means they will be safe for at least 2 years 100%, unless they go 5-12 with a fully healthy team.
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Alright so if Josh loves talking draft what's his burner account here?
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We will win the east
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11 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:
I don’t necessarily see it this way.
I would think that there is some risk/benefit analysis to injecting SVPG in at center. Where as you see it through the lense that he is unseating McGovern, could it not also be seen as it allowing him to stay at LG?
I think Kromer and the staff with have to weigh what combination can be most effective. Would Edwards/McGovern be a stronger duo than McGovern/Van Pran-Granger while allowing Edwards to stay as 6th in and primary IOL back up?
A move like this allows for a single change up front, keeping the Dawkins/McGovern duo in tact. With a McGovern move to C, you now have an entirely new combination at LT/LG along with the change to how the guards will mesh with the C
Agreed. Van Pran is not competitng with McGovern who will be in the starting 5 no matter what. Van Pran is competing with David Edwards/Collins. I would not slee on Edwards. Van Pran would have to look so good in there that they move McGovern back to LG. It’s all about playing the best 5.-
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3 hours ago, teef said:
great. now i'm signed up for a men's talking circle.
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Just now, Logic said:
One of the points that Simms made in the clip I posted above that I liked:
The Bills offense is gonna be BIG at times.
You have Spencer Brown and Torrence on the right side of the OL, who are objectively huge human beings.
Skill player wise, you potentially have Dawson Knox, Dalton Kincaid, and Keon Coleman all on the field at once, not to mention or giant golden retriever tank of a quarterback.
They have the potential to be able to play some power ball. And defenses having to deal with Knox, Kincaid, and Coleman in the end zone while ALSO having to account for Josh "15 rushing TDs" Allen...good luck!When most of the league is going small it does make sense to go big. All these tiny DBs and 220 lb linebackers could be in some trouble.
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Bills apparently cockblocked the Pats*** at the end of the 1st round…
in The Stadium Wall
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My 2 cents is that they entertained trading up to get Thomas and did not like the cost. I assume they did not want Worthy. I think that is clear they wanted this X guy and Worthy is not that. They would have taken him at 28 if they really wanted him.
We also know they did not want Leggette. Beane MUST have known that Morgan wanted to take Leggette.
The Patriots wanted Leggette or Coleman. We will probably never know the truth here but if the Bills thought there was a chance that the Pats were going to take their guy there is zero reason to trade with them. Also, trading back with the Pats likely would have resulted in the Pats taking Coleman or Leggette and the Panthers taking the other guy. In this scenario, the Bills likely lose out on their guy and that's why this Pats thing is such a non-story.
What we don't know is if the Bills wanted Pearsall. We will likely never know that, but since he is not a true outside guy, maybe they didn't. Because he was such a surprise to some people going so early in theory he could have been a guy Buffalo thought would definitely be there at 32.
But it is more likely to me that they wanted Thomas or Coleman.