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  1. The reason the offense didn't work was Tyrod Taylor's inability to play from the pocket, and his aversion to taking any sort of chances. There are times in a game in which you need to take a shot. Sometimes those long interceptions turn into long punts. Dennison's play calling didn't help. 

     

    DiMarco should have been used more in the running game. He had been graded as the best fullback in the league for a few years and suddenly did nothing. I don't think he was used properly. I think Daboll will use him as he started his career with him and Kansas City and NE does make use of a fullback. I think they may have wanted more versatility and that is why they were in on Kyle Juszczyk. I think they wanted a guy who could be Patrick DiMarco and Nick O'Leary in one. I think we saw a lot of DiMarco's reps go to O'Leary honestly. I think they just liked 11 an 12 personnel more than 21 personnel. 

     

    Tolbert I thought was signed to be a locker room cheerleader, then J. Williams was cut. I don't understand his presence on the field and literally screamed at the TV any time he was in the game. He did fumble in the snow game though, so there's that. 

     

    Matthews was a weird fit and I honestly hated that trade. I didn't like the pick of Zay Jones either. I actually really wanted Cooper Kupp. Hindsight says we should have pick Smith-Schuster. I love teh KB trade. He is teh type of player we have not had in a long time. He is a game changer if we have a quarterback who can get him the ball. 

     

    Daboll will make a big difference picking offensive personnel in my opinion. 

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  2. 13 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    They could fall in love with one... but as of now based on what I am hearing on the rumour mill I don't think they are intending to go QB at #2.  I repeat - I would if I were in their GM chair..... I just get a strong sense that they think they can still win and win now with Eli.  

     

    I think this makes a lot of sense. Honestly, if they fix their offensive line and ODB is healthy they could be Super Bowl contenders. Also with the hiring of James Bettcher, they will likely be going to a 3-4 defensive alignment which will require more draft picks to fill out. I'm not even sure how JPP will fit, but there will be some significant holes to fill with the switch.

     

    I think a trade down makes a ton of sense for them. Would they be willing to drop all the way to 21+22 and take Cordy Glenn? it sure seems enticing if I am them. Or perhaps they take the approach that they don't expect to be up there again so they need to take a QB while they can. 

  3. He has some nice traits, but I don't think he has potential to be the answer. As others have said, I'm not sure if it makes sense to take a late round developmental guy if Peterman is on the roster, unless you are moving on from Peterman. If you can't trade up, I think you just wait until next year. I think we either see:

     

    vet

    high end rookie (trade up) 

    Peterman

     

    or

     

    vet

    younger vet who has little experience and some potential

    Peterman (try to find the answer next year)

     

     

  4. 1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said:

    More like run game un-coordinator...amirite?

     

    Yes!!!

     

    1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

     

    From the Mehta article:

    The Daily News has learned that Gang Green has reached out to former Bills offensive coordinator Rick Dennison to be their offensive line coach/run-game coordinator to assist Jeremy Bates, who is in line to be the new offensive play caller.

     

    Oh cool, thanks. Not a Mehta fan so never clicked the link. Dennison has worked as an oline coach and o coordinator so this kind of placement makes sense. I could see that team having success with a zone scheme. 

  5. This is a good question. They also draft in front of us. But I will say they have a lot of talent on their defense. Chandler Jones, Haason Reddick, Deone Bucannon and a really good secondary. Maybe he can get something out of Robert Nkemdiche.

     

    I'm assuming the would transition into a 4-3. I think where we need to worry is at the linebacker spot as they will be looking for the same type of talent as us. I suppose they could play Reddick at the Mike and Bucannon at the Will, but they would be very undersized there. 

  6. I doesn't seem like visits mean a whole lot with this regime. With Whaley and Nix it was pretty easy to narrow it down to like 3 guys we were going to pick. Like when the entire world knew we were going to draft Kelvin Sheppard that one year. Preston Brown and John Miller were pretty obvious as well. 

     

    I felt like last year I had no idea who we were going to pick. I know we met with Peterman but we met with the other quarterbacks as well and the Jones connection was kind of obvious. But I don't remember having White or Dawkinsn on the radar. I guess I'm trying to train myself to pay less attention to the pre draft visits and meetings. 

  7. 18 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

     

    Knowing what we know now, and seeing his performance this year, you think his draft stock would be... higher than last year?

     

    Gotta disagree. He basically rode that Clemson win into being drafted at all. After all his picks this year, he's back to UDFA where he probably belonged originally. IMO.

     

    I hear you. I just think that second group of quarterbacks in this draft, after the top 4 just aren't very good so it's just really hard to place. Do I think he would get drafted in front of a Mason Rudolph? Probably. Is he better than Connor Cook who went in the fourth a couple years ago? Probably not. I think  it's hard to say but I don't think he would go undrafted. Probably in the 5-7 range. I could see him going in the fourth if a GM thought he was the least crappy of the second tier of quarterbacks, and thought they were getting a future Kirk Cousins as we apparently thought. 

     

    Last year there was some hype about Peterman sneaking into that 2-4 range, but fifth was probably the right spot. I don't think he's a future starter but I don't think I can put a wrap on his career after a historically terrible half and bad pick at the end of a game for which he probably had zero reps. I'm not done with him yet and still think he is better than he has shown. I don't think we win the snow game without him making those throws to KB. Is he Kirk Couisns or just generic, smart, weakish  arm quarterback? Not sure yet. Likely somewhere in between. 

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  8. 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    If Peterman was eligible to go back this year and get drafted, knowing what we know now, where would he be picked (if at all)? I’m fairly certain he’d be an UDFA. 

    I've been pondering on this myself. I was thinking he'd be slotted somewhere around Luke Falk. But I see him probably dropping to the 4th or 5th round. He could drop farther with all of the quarterbacks available in free agency. 

     

    I honestly think Allen, Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield got first round. Then someone will take a shot on Jackson and his athletic ability. 

     

    After that I think it is going to be a very long wait for those other guys. Probably 4th or 5th, kinda like when Connor Cook kept falling. 

  9. I do buy that they do believe in Peterman and I could see this as a possible outcome if:

     

    They can't trade up. 

    They can't get someone better than him in free agency or trade. 

    They don't like the second tier QBs, Rudolph, Falk etc more than Peterman. 

     

    I could see them bringing in a young vet who never had a shot before like Tyler Bray to compete with him, realistically expecting Peterman to win the job. They do like Peterman, otherwise they would not have made the move to him in San Diego. 

     

    I do think this is a possible outcome if they don't like the QBs in this draft relative to where they pick. They aren't going to force it, and after that top tier are any of those guys really better than the guy they already have? I'm not so sure. I don't think the outcome is very likely, but I do think it is possible. 

  10. 28 minutes ago, kdiggz said:

    Matt Moore?  wtf is with the love for this guy?  he is so bad they had to ask a mediocre QB to unretire when their real starter went down and then they played David Fales instead of him vs us in the last game and he almost won.  Matt Moore might not even be in the league next year let alone a starting QB haha

     

    Moore is not good but he does make sense if we draft a young guy who we intend to start right away. He could be the veteran voice in the room and a guy who has played for Daboll.  He is definitely not starter material. There will be some veteran in room if we draft a young guy. 

     

    I think the options are:

    Sign crappy veteran like Matt Moore, Derek Anderson. Drew Stanton, Chad Henne. Trade up to draft young guy we intend to start right away. 

    Sign or trade for veteran to be long term starter: Bradford, Cousins, Bridgewater, Keenum, Foles. Develop Peterman and late round guy. 

    Sign or trade for really good bridge Alex Smith and draft quarterback we intend to develop for 1-2 years. (this scenario makes most sense to me and could still involve a trade up)

    Sign or trade for marginal young guys who still might have potential to compete with Peterman. Tyler Bray, Blaine Gabbert, Matt Barkley, Geno Smith (would not like this scenario but could see it if they really love Peterman) .It would be the Kevin kolb-EJ scenario

  11. 2 hours ago, matter2003 said:

    Its said that spread QBs can take several years to learn the NFL game and it appears the light finally clicked for Keenum this year.  That geta me thinking just how many other Keenum stories there might be arpund the NFL that we will nevee know about because once you become a 3rd stringer you pretty much are done as a starting QB unless crazy circumstances lead to you getting an extended opportunity.

     

    That's what happened with Keenum as he was basically signed for peanuts by the Vikings and not expected to play. 

     

    Do GMs need to start reevaluating their scouting processes with the realization it might take a good 4 or 5 years for a QB to be ready to play well? Most players dont ever get that long to show it...they end up on the scrap heap or buried on a depth chart.

     

    It will be interesting to see...now mlre than ever with spread QBs becoming more  and more common, I think it might be time they start realizing sometimes it just takes longer...think it also shows that scheme and system are ultra important in the NFL

     

     

     

    These are interesting points. We are seeing the success of guys like Keenum, Cousin, Foles, Garoppolo, because they were backups at points and got to observe and develop.  Even Alex Smith wasn't very good until late in his 49ers career and we saw him take off with the move to KC. It takes time. That's why people may take a shot on AJ McCarron or even a guy like Tyler Bray, guys sitting in the background on rosters developing. 

     

    Every year we hear during draft time that guys need to sit a year or two and develop, because they are not ready. But time and time again we see guys drafted early and starting right away and looking terrible. There are just so many guys who got thrown to the wolves too early and are now out of the game. I think at times this can work as we saw with guys like Peyton Manning or even Goff and Wentz in their second years. But to me these are exceptions. Owners need to commit to coaches and GMs for longer so that they can properly develop quarterbacks. The Bears threw Mitch Trubisky in there and everyone got fired anyway. They probably would have been better off letting him sit. 

     

    Rodgers sat. Rivers sat. Even Eli sat for a little bit. Carson Palmer sat for 1 full season and the Bengals refused to play him. It was the best thing for him. I suppose we could see a return to that mentality, but it seems unlikely. 

     

    Guys like Rosen, Darnold, Jackson are only 20-21 years old. That is just extremely young to be starting games in the NFL. 

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  12. 4 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

     

    hmmmm...if he was doing so great with Cam I wonder why they fired him (not being an a$$, truly wondering)...I didn't know he was well regarding or credited for Cam's "development"

     

    It's a strange firing, but I guess we have to wait and see what Carolina does with their offensive staff to understand what they were thinking. 

     

    Edit: Nevermind...they hired Norv Turner. Norv wanted his son Scott to be the quarterback coach as a part of the deal and Rivera agreed to the terms. So that is why Dorsey was let go. 

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  13. 3 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

     

    Dorsey is a well regarded QB Coach? 

     

    That is my problem with the potential hire....what has Dorsey done that makes him a good QB coach?

    I think he is generally regarded as a guy that really understands the position. He played it at a high level in college and played a few years in the NFL with pretty much zero athletic ability or talent. He had a noodle arm, so he got everything he could by being smart and good technique. That's the kind of guy I want as my quarterback coach. He is very strong with the cerebral side of the game. He also has a background in pro scouting. He is generally credited with doing a lot for Cam Newton in terms of technique etc.  

     

    I also like the idea of some young blood on the staff. 

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  14. 13 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

     

    I hope for the same, but McDermott stated yesterday that he has the final say.

    This makes sense. He should have final say. But if Daboll comes in an says "I've evaluated the offensive line and Castillo sucks and has to go,. Plus every team he's worked with has done better when he left," I hope McDermott doesn't say, "Juan is a dear friend and I trust him. You need to make it work with him." That's like Rex level cronyism. 

     

    I think he should be gone along with Culley  but I am not holding out hope. 

  15. 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    Are you thinking that Allen will just knock it out of the park at the Senior Bowl and combine to elevate him?  Or do you think Allen right now based on potential is high on Cleveland's draft board?

     

    I figure he's just really high on their board at the moment and seems like a great fit for them. The things that Hue and Haley are probably going to want to do, and they have a good amount of deep speed at the receiver spot. I don't think they will touch Rosen for a lot of reasons, and I think they will pick Allen's physical potential over Darnold. It's so early, but it is fun to anticipate. at this time. 

     

    Maybe the just take Barkley 1 and take whichever QB is left at 4? Or maybe they stick with DeShone Kizer who has amazing physical talent and did some good things towards the end of the year. Or perhaps they make McCarron their guy. But the whispers about Cleveland taking Allen #1 make sense, even going back to Adam Schefter's report last season about him going #1.  It could be the the industry decided Allen was going to be #1 regardless of what he did in college this year. 

  16. 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    This is just a pure guess based on feeling....I think the one guy they think is the man is Darnold.

    Cleveland #1 overall would take a Brinks truck of draft picks.  #21, #22 and next years 1 with probably at least 3rd as well?

     

    I lean this way as well. he seems to have everything they look for with none of the off field stuff, and he is a high end prospect. My gut, based on pure guess as well, Cleveland takes Allen, Giants take Rosen, we trade up to 3 for Darnold. A trade down make a ton of sense for the Colts. 

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