[2019 NFL Combine updates]

Just now, Dr. Who said:

Almost impossible that they don't get one or the other, esp. if Murray goes #1 overall.

 

Yeah that's what worries me. But dang, I hope the reach on Jonah Williams's or something. 

[2019 NFL Combine updates]

Holy crap Sweat 4.42!

[Report: It is universally believed among NFL execs that Kyler Murray will be drafted #1 by Arizona]

7 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said:

listening to espn radio.  there was a discussion about cards drafting murray and trading rosen to pats. he would sit behind brady for a who knows how long.  does this make sense?

A lot of people were getting their panties in a bunch about the possibility of the Pats trading up in front of us for Rosen, or Mason Rudolph of all people. Then Rosen went ten and Rudolph got drafting in the third round. 

 

I could see Rosen to the Pats, but I do think Rosen to the Giants makes a ton of sense. 

[2019 NFL Combine updates]

I feel like we are trading down, or getting whichever one of these defensive linemen who drop to 9. Someone will be there.

54 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Quinnen Williams with an unofficial 4.87. Good lord. That’s a large fast mammal. 

I really hope the Jets don't get him or Bosa. 

[Bills hire former Pats Center Ryan Wendell as offensive assistant]

Another former Panther! Rabble rabble rabble!

 

But seriously I like the move. He was a pretty good center for New England a few years ago. If he speaks the same language as Daboll, it can only help. 

[Grabbing double TEs in FA could help offset the OL.]

My plan is a Jesse James in free agency and trading a 6th round pick for Tyler Higbee of the Rams. Some rumors circulated that he was available for a sixth last year. Higbee was drafted for Rob Boras who was the OC with Rams and is currently our tight ends coach. 

 

James goes 6-7, 260

Higbee goes 6-6, 250

Croom goes 6-5, 246

 

That's  some serious size and length with some very athletic upside, plus both Higbee and Croom are on rookie contracts. I don't mind the idea of Boyle. I think you could add Boyle or Maxx Williams and they could play fullback as well, which allows you to cut DiMarco if you want. And I like ASJ as well, but to me, James-Higbee-Croom is the perfect mix of size, blocking, and recieving ability. They complement each other well. 

[FA OT Jake Fisher converting to TE, will work out for Bills]

36 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He was a 1st rd pick out of Oregon. Never became what the bengals expected there at RT. But he was a 4 star TE in HS who converted to OT in college. 

 

The Bengals used him as an H back a bit as well. Not the worst idea. 

[2019 NFL Combine updates]

That punter from Utah is faster than Preston Brown

[Any Love for Bryce Love?]

13 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

Is there any chance we could reach around and get some Love towards the later part of the draft?

 

Ill take some reach around love anytime

[Jets pick #3 for sale]

7 hours ago, Captain Murica said:

You like Bosa over Allen?

 

I’m actually the opposite. I like Allen because he was literally getting pressure on 1/4 of his rushes, can cover, and basically do it all. Plus, with Zo still here, he would be the perfect guy for Allen to learn from and take over after Zo retires. This draft to

me has that same feel it did Clowney and Mack. Both will be great players.  

 

It's 1A and 1B for me. I love Allen, but I do think Bosa is a great fit in McDermotts base defense. Allen though is pretty awesome as well. 

[Matt Miller 7-round Mock Draft: Bills take OT Jonah Williams]

On 2/5/2019 at 7:18 AM, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Consensus seems to be Jonah Williams is a guard because of the lack of arm length 

 

Im going all in on the idea of him at center. I brought it up a while ago and I stand by it. He's super smart with really good feet and shorter arms. I think he would be all world there. Instantly a top ten center in the league. 

[T.J. Hockenson]

5 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

It's funny because this sorta thing used to bother me a lot. I think I got over the fraction stuff sometime last year LOL!

I need to do the same thing! lol

[Calling it now: Zay Jones will not be on the week 1 roster.]

8 minutes ago, NewEraBills said:

 

Everyone on offense has.  So do we say the OL and the QB and a lack of running game held the WR's back or did the WR's hold the other parts back?  In any case, we do know the line needs serious upgrades.  We do need at least one other player at WR.  More importantly, we need bodies at TE.

 

Zay blew a lot of opportunities. He should have had more, and that is on the rest of the offense. But he blew a lot of the ones he had, and that's why he is so disappointing in my eye. You can't be a playmaker if you can't make plays. A receiver who can't catch is worthless. If he is on the team this year, I hope he breaks out. 

[Calling it now: Zay Jones will not be on the week 1 roster.]

Whether you hate or love Zay, he has been a massive disappointment. I think there is a chance he could get moved, and I think there is a chance that he could break out. But no one can really deny how terrible he's been. Sure we saw flashes here or there. For a high second round pick, it's simply not good enough. I hope he is better, or moved for an offensive lineman. 

[T.J. Hockenson]

3 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

He's practically 6'5 lol

I know. It's dumb, but it's one of those things that just bothers me. I'm glad I am not a scout. 

[T.J. Hockenson]

1 hour ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Measured in nicely today at the combine

 

6-4 6/8 and 251 pounds. I thought he was coming in at 6'3. Positional value matters and he's not explosive any way but he's just so good and is a devastating blocker as well. Definitely in play at #9 along with Jonah Williams, Ed Oliver and D.K. Metcalf.

 

 

That 6-4 kind of bothers me. It's not a big deal as we are talking fractions of an inch, but I'm a big measurements guy and not sure I love that. Eager to see how he runs. 

[Another WR reportedly available via trade: Eagles’ Nelson Algholor]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

 Why doesn't that work for you? 

 

Its not your money and the Bills have LOADS of cap that they need to spend on something. 

 

What I mean is that I would not want to give up anything good for a rental. I think we need to grow a core, I don't think we should be a rental type of team. A sixth or seventh? That's fine. I'd give up more for a more long term asset. 

[Calling it now: Zay Jones will not be on the week 1 roster.]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Depends whether you project Jonah as a guard or a tackle..... but he is the only potential interior guy I have a higher grade on than I had on Lamp coming out. If you categorise Jonah as a tackle then I have no interior guys in this draft graded as highly as I had Lamp two years ago. 

 

Would you do that trade Gunner? 

[2019 NFL Combine updates]

18 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

I think the interesting kernel in there is what he said about the tight end position. He said "finding the player who is the right fit based on who we already have on the roster." I think that means that they like Croom and are not looking for a "move" tight end like Fant. I think they are going to be looking for a true in line tight end who can block and catch. If that's Jesse James, or Hockenson, or whomever remains to be seen, but I thought it was an interesting nugget. 

[Another WR reportedly available via trade: Eagles’ Nelson Algholor]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

He was billed by some as a faster version of Robert Woods. I dont know if he’s the same type of player? What do you think?

 

At the risk of sounding like John Madden, I don't think he is the "football player" Woods is. From all accounts he is a hard worker. It does seem that he is ripe for a breakout if he goes to a team that will make him more of a focal point in the offense. I could see him failing miserably under the pressure of being the "guy," just like he did as a first round draft pick. He played much better after they got Jeffrey and other guys around him. He isn't the competitor that Robert Woods is. There are a million stories about how coaches had to light a fire under him and push him, how the Golden Tate trade made him worker harder. Woods is working hard no matter what. He doesn't need a fire lit. 

 

I think that is the biggest difference. 

[Another WR reportedly available via trade: Eagles’ Nelson Algholor]

I think this guy finally had a mini breakout, but I do think 6-0, 185 receivers who run 4.4 kind of grow on trees. He did cross over one year with Matt Barkley at USC. He would be playing on his fifth year option at 1 year and 9.4 million. Not sure that works for me, unless it's like a seventh round pick. 

[T.J. Hockenson]

9 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

Just watched three games on Hockenson and to be honest I am a little surprised by all the Gronk and Kelce comparisons going on.    He is definitely willing to do it all.   But aside from having really good hands he doesnt stand out as an elite top ten talent.   He is a good blocker, but he is also streaky at times, especially in the Penn State and Mississippi State games I watched (that Mississippi State defense was fast and nasty).  He has some size but wouldnt say he plays big, in fact he comes across as a smaller H-Back despite being 6'5.   I will be curious about the speed but he doesnt look like a 4.4 or 4.5 guy on film.   I also didnt see crisp route running.  I saw a guy who would sneak off an initial block and get wide open rather than getting open using route running skills.  

 

Three games doesnt tell the entire story, but I would be against the Bills taking him in the top ten.

 

I think there are a lot of fair points here. As you alluded to, I think a lot is going to come down to his combine workout. I mean if he runs a 4.81, and measured 6-3, he won't be a top ten pick, but if he blows it up, or at least puts up respectable numbers, I think you are getting a pretty special guy. I am very interested in how he measures, height, weight, wing span, hands, things of that nature. I don't want an H back. We also have to keep in mind that the guy is a redshirt sophomore, so there is a still a lot of growth to be had. 

[Jets pick #3 for sale]

Honestly, I would consider a trade up for Nick Bosa. That's it. Otherwise I'd be looking to trade back a few spots or stay put. I do not think that Beane will trade up this year. I remeber him saying something about trading up needing to be calculated and such and not something you can do every year. Having traded up for two first round picks last year, I think Beane moves around the draft board, but I doubt a trade up in the first. 

[Calling it now: Zay Jones will not be on the week 1 roster.]

I tend to agree with the OP. Zay Jones to the Chargers for Forrest Lamp and a pick. 

 

This reunites Zay with Phil McGeoghan and it allows the Chargers to replace Tyrell Williams with a cheaper guy. We get a nice guard prospect, who would be a top 1-2 interior player in this draft. Chargers throw in a pick because we are assuming some risk as Lamp has barely played since he was drafted. 

 

I think it's a win-win for both teams. 

[McD to speak to media at 12:15]

7 minutes ago, Logic said:

I agree. Sometimes, a kernel of truth accidentally slips out.

A good example is recently when Brandon Beane was "saying a whole lot of nothing", except that he mentioned that sometimes in the draft you're looking at maybe a position where you're about to have 1 or 2 pending free agents the FOLLOWING year and you're not gonna be able or willing to pay them, so you have to look into the future when drafting. That sure as heck sounded to a lot of ears like Beane was talking about drafting an edge rusher, knowing that Hughes and Lawson are both up after this year and won't both likely be paid top end contracts. So there's an instance of a guy "saying nothing" but accidentally possibly tipping his hand about a position to be on the lookout for in the coming draft. But as you said, you had to read between the lines and connect the dots yourself.

 

Definitely some kernels! Last year when discussing quarterbacks, pretty much everything Beane said he was looking for in a quarterback is what Josh Allen is.