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2 minutes ago, Mango said:
I do not believe this is true. Right now Spotrac is showing that we take Diggs $27M cap number off the books for 2025. That could change as this whole thing gets finalized, but it won't be $30M regardless.Spotrac already has the $31M. Also, 2025 cap (after Beane lets Von go will be about $40M in cap space.
This move was smart and it all depends on what kind of WR room Beane gives Allen and how he and Brady
can make it work. NO ONE is going to know this till the fall.
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3 minutes ago, brianthomas said:
feels like we've done this backwards.
Year 6-7 of Josh Allen, you'd like to be making a trade for a #1 wr to win now. Wish we could turn back the clock & simply draft Justin Jefferson, who everyone had mocked to us. This almost feels like thats what Beane is doing here, trying to go back to draft his Justin Jefferson. Just remains to be seen if the guy we draft can live up to that. Bold bold move by Beane.
I don't. Josh was a young QB who had issues and Diggs helped him gain the NFL confidence he needed.
Diggs has done his part. Now it's time for Josh to make good WRs out of average ones.
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2 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:
Diggs was a great receiver for the Bills and it's no coincidence that Josh's career took off with his arrival.
It's disappointing to see so many Bills fans turn on diggs
I see it more as a football business move. Clearing his cap hits going forward as he ages will benefit the team.
Beane is now in the position to just dump Von Miller at the start of next year.
It's all about what Beane can do with the WR room the next 2 drafts and next years FA.
I liked Diggs but even I was starting to not care for the drama he was starting.
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I see Dalton and Josh teaming up for years to come. Dalton's 2nd season will be a big one for him.
As others have said, Brady will get him more targets (and more primary targets) down the seam.
He is a driven player from all reports, so I expect he will be working on a lot of things to improve his overall game.
Lots of his drops/incompletions were tough catches and he will adjust to Josh's throwing style more and more.
Dalton needs a lot more targets in the red zone IMO. That would bring up his TD totals.
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Let's take a look at what potential trade partners that Beane might have in trading back into the 2nd round.
First, let's talk about Pick #28 worth 660 points. Trading for a 3rd worth anywhere from 265 (Pick #65) to 3rd round comp Pick #100 (100 points)
gives Beane some room but it all depends on how far back in the 2nd he would want to go.
1). I for one, wouldn't want Beane trading back past Pick #41 (Green Bay 490 points). If GB wants to move up into the 1st they got a 3rd rounder
at Pick #88 (150 points). Could do a lower round swap to even the worth.
2). Carolina has Pick #33 and #39. They don't have a 1st rounder. Could be a potential trade partner.
3). Washington has Pick #36 and #40. They too could be a trade partner.
4). Arizona already has 2 1st rounders and Pick #35. They probably stand put.
5). Doubt Beane trades with NE at Pick #34.
6). LA Chargers have Pick #37 but their 3rd is too high to trade with the Bills.
7). The last of that early 2nd round teams in the TEN Titans. They are low on pick and don't have a 3rd rounder.
The way I see it, Carolina, Washington and Green Bay are pretty good potential trade partners.
Of these 3, Washington may well want to get back into the 1st and make a splash Day 1. They seem to have the right picks for the
Bills to get either Pick 100 (worth 100 points) or Pick #78 (worth 200 points). Washington does not have a 4th rounder.
TRADE: Bills #28 (660 points AND Pick #133 (39.5 points) 699.5 POINTS TOTAL
for Washington Pick #40 (500 points) AND Pick #78 (200 points) 700 POINTS TOTAL
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TRADE: Bills #28 (660 points) for Washington Pick #36 (540 points) AND Pick #100 (100 points).
I like this trade very much!
Depending on Beane's board, it's a possibility.
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Everyone has an opinion on this. This is mine.
Draft a WR in the 1st round (2nd at the latest). I will be disappointed in Beane if he does not.
I prefer to let the draft come to Beane and not waste a 4th to move up 2 spots unless he is pretty darn sure a team
like the Chiefs is trading up to take his guy.
With the draft full of WRs, Beane should have a lot more than 1 guy he'd be happy with, both in the 1st and 2nd rounds.
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35 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:
7 pages of STD and McClappy jokes and I still don’t know a single thing about this guy’s ability.
You must be giving "jokes" a lot of leeway.
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5 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:5 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
It's just stupid to be over AGAIN before next year gets here. Diggs and Vons contracts are killing us.
Currently 2025 is -$9.8M and when Von is let go next spring it results in a $8.5M in cap savings.
Diggs contract may get traded. The trading team gets him for $19.5M with no guaranteed money (no dead cap).
Whether he's cut or traded he saves another $5.1M pre-June and $18.5M post June. I see a post-June cut.
Josh will restructure $20M more and take his hit down to $40M.
Beane will be in a much better position next spring and going forward.
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3 minutes ago, MJS said:
If there is a position I trust McDermott with, it is safety. If he thinks he can make it work with Rapp and Edwards, that works for me. But they may also draft a guy. We'll see.
I see a 2nd or 4th round rookie safety pushing Edwards and Rapp for a starting position.
Hamlin having to fight off competition for S#4. Hope Beane double dips with a 5th-6th rounder to compete.
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3 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:
I wouldn't hate it, but I think now the Bills are truly in position to take BPA and worry about backfilling the bandaids in the later rounds.
Didn't want to see Safety in the 1st. This makes it better for WR/DL. Can't see a first-round need in the other positions.
Second round BPA is good for me for a lot of other positions.
I hope it falls that way.
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He signed a one-year $3M contract with the Chiefs last year.
Seems he started after Bryan Cook got hurt.
KC let him walk so I think it's around a $2M+ contract, but hopefully less.
He does seem like a ball hawk. Hope McDermott can get him playing well for the D.
I think this makes a Safety in Day 1 or 2 less important.
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7 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
Did anyone think Haack was taking his job?
Likely Beane is keeping Haack around to help split the load in training camp and preseason games and to give Haack another shot at making a team as a favor for him being willing to help out last minute last year.
Haack was brought in to get some camp competition. I would like to see someone brought in to compete with Bass.
Get both of these kickers' minds' focused.
I don't like either of these guys kicking every kick all summer long with not even the hint of competition.
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1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
well, Marv did specifically say Josh Allen as one of the QB's he'd love to play with. Didn't mention Mahomes....so I already like the guy
Beane should at least explore what it would take to get to pick 4 or 6 for Harrison or Nabers
The Cardinals are a dumb franchise who knows maybe it would be a favorable price.
The Giants connection at 6 would make a lot of sense and likely a fair dealSorry but you need to put this fantasy to bed. It would START with Bills 1st and 2nd this year PLUS next year's 1st and 2nd.
Moving from 28 to 4 is a huge jump.
https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=buf
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A lot of sarcasm for a former 7th rounder who has to battle for a depth spot in camp.
I see a vet minimum with maybe a small signing bonus at best.
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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:
Post-June 1 cuts also don't count in the comp pick calculation formula.
It's one of the wrinkles that makes NFL capology head spinning when fans start down that road.
Thank you, I did not know that.
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12 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
So you want to take an All Pro Nickel CB and move him to Safety so that we can have a 3rd LB in Dorian Williams on the field and subtract a DB?
Besides the madness of moving an All Pro to a different position, I think I still prefer having at least 5 DB's on the field at all times instead of 4.
This idea that's floated around the board all offseason that any CB can switch to Safety and that it a.) Happens all the time and b.) CB's are cool switching positions is out of hand.
Need a CB? You draft or sign a CB. Need a Safety? You draft or sign a Safety. You don't take a top performing young player from their natural position and switch them to another.
I'm not saying to move Taron to Safety BUT i would like to see if some packages with 3 LBs and Taron stays on the field.
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7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I’ll ask it differently, “how many available roster spots do you see?” For me, it isn’t about 2 bites at the apple in the 6th. I’m using that ammo, to move up in the 6th and draft a guy that I have a 4th round grade on (for example). I am trusting my scouting. Adding 7 or 8 guys in the draft would still be A TON. There just aren’t the roster spots to support it.
I see it like this so far. I will say the longer Beane goes without signing more UFAs (especially those around $2M one-year contracts) the
more draft picks he might keep. I totally can agree with your points and have supported that in the past. Just see this year as maybe
an exception.
1- WR (Assuming Shorter or one of the other PS guys make the team)
1- RB
2- OL (IOL and Swing)- I can't count Tommy Doyle as a lock)
4- DL (I have only 5 locks Beane usually keeps 9-10)
4- DB (I only have 6 locks Beane usually keeps 10) I don't count Hamlin as a lock.
1- P (Martin and Haack could be upgraded and cheaper).
So that's 13 slots. I see a WR along with a DL/S with the 1st 2 picks.
I do believe Beane is looking to add a vet Safety with the money he has left.
That leaves 10 slots.
Even if Beane drafted 10 guys and 8 (at best) made the team that still leaves some depth spots needing to be filled.
Beane could use the cap from Tre White to fill out the roster with some vets like he did with Floyd last year.
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3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I don’t think that there is an argument to drafting 10-11 guys (despite the need to make the roster younger). I could see 7 or 8 making sense. Look at the depth chart and tell me where you have room for 11? I get the theory that it’s “more bites at the apple” but there aren’t enough spots.
Your focus needs to be on your number 2 WR, followed by the DL. You need to get, 3 bodies there. You’re likely going to sign your other starting S, but you should draft a guy as well. You could also use a late round RB that can run between the tackles. That leaves 5-6 roster spots that you need from the draft. If you want to draft a couple more guys to compete with others on the back of the roster, so be it. That’ll be where BPA comes in. Otherwise, you use those last 3(ish) picks to move around the board and target guys before you have a tier break. At this point, I’d be happy with something like:
- AD Mitchell
- Kris Jenkins
- Gabe Hall
- Dadrion Taylor-Demerson
- Xavier Thomas
- Audric Estime
- BPA
- BPA
I agree that 10 or 11 rookies have a low probability of ALL making the team. But if you are taking a chance with drafting 7 guys from the
5th - 7th rounds you have to expect some not to make the 53. It's an odds thing. There is a chance on the unlikely situation that ALL the
rookies look good of stashing a couple on the PS, especially the 6th and 7th rounders.
If they get lucky and hit on 4-5 guys worth keeping my question would be, is it better to do that (this year) than using those picks to
move a few spots up knowing that even those guys picked in Day 3 may not pan out too.
Beane has never done this before, and I won't be upset if he does bundle picks, but he has not been in this cap crunch as bad as this year and next.
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13 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
9 of 11 are day 3 picks. 4 are 6th/7th round.
What's the move up value?
That is what made me start the thread.
At first, I thought Beane could bundle some of those to get back into the 3rd. When I looked at the new trade value chart it just
didn't make a lot of sense. Those 5ths, 6ths and 7th don't get you much when his first Day 3 pick is a low 4th.
I started to think, just pick guys and hope you hit on a few.
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1 minute ago, Shaw66 said:
I've suggested moving Johnson before. People bash me about it. I like it because safety is amore important position. It requires tackling ability, coverage skulls and brains. That's Johnson. It's easier to find a slot corner than a safety. It's been a luxury to have him in that position.
If he moves, then the Bills need a new slot corner or they go 4-3.
I think Johnson would be a great safety.
I'm more intrigued about the possibility of Taron moving in and out of a safety spot. He seems so versatile that he could start to split
time between the 2 depending on down and distance and opponents' offensive tendencies.
The 4-3-4 vs 4-2-5 argument has always been about taking Taron out. This could be a compromise to that point.
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15 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:
I for sure think there is. The guys who don't make the 53 go on the practice squad and as last year showed injuries happen and depth is important. Wish Beane would let the draft come to him. This team needs more guys on rookie 4 year deals.
3 DL
2 CBs
2 possibly 3 safeties
1 WR
1 RB
2 OL
I had no problem with Beane moving around in the past. I'm just compromising and thinking he should try to let the draft come to him a
little bit more this year. Get a couple more of the late rounders and hope they hit.
As to the rookie deals, IF they are good enough for depth, the 4-year contracts save a lot of cash compared to the $1.7M vet depth on
one-year contracts.
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16 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
Why not? I mean it solves the immediate Safety issue, and puts 3 really good athletes on the field at LB.
Like I said, first I heard anyone mentioning this. I also agree about the "best players need to be on the field" thing.
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8 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
I dont see roster spots for 10 or 11 guys after the moves he has already made.
1 RB
1 WR
1 OL
2 DL
1 LB
1 CB
1 S
1 P
If I stretch it I can get to 9 and that is taking a punter. Now if they cut Gilliam and want to add another TE or 2 RBs you might get to ten.
Add the fact an UDFA is no worse than a 7th round pick and my guess is he makes a max of 8 picks.
He will burn the others moving around.
If there is not an impact player at 28 he should drop back and get an additional day 2 pick. Maybe even try to get an additional day 2 pick next year.
I came into this idea with the assumption that if a lot of Day 3 picks are made that a few will not pan out. It's the "odds" thing.
With some luck the guys that don't make it can battle with the UDFA and cheap vets for the PS.
I could make the point again that guys like Doyle and Hamlin can be upgraded with a rookie, so that opens up more 53 spots.
A punter in the mix would definitely be in the works.
Diggs traded to Texans for picks
in The Stadium Wall
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To take a lesson from last year. We went into the season without any LBs. How did that work out.
Just let things take it's course and see what the roster looks like in August and how they play in September.