Jerome007
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Can.'t wait to see if McD wins his first challenge of the year!
And as others have said, let Allen loose, cute and precise stuff, not his strength
WHAT! Challenge not accepted!
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What a show! I just love the kid!
Big props to the defense too!
Even the refs are on our side for once ha ha
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2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:
I don't think its going to matter. Shady has been pretty much invalid for us the last two games. Cant see him doing much this game either.
Yeah but ALL running games and running attacks don't kill it every week. If McCoy is injured, fine, sit him, but to say he doesn't contribute, come on now. Anyway I feel we need to see some TWO backs sets on offense and use Shady more for the passing game, especially in the first half while Ivory pounds it. If, if, if, the OLine does run bock better then the defense should be softened up on the 2nd half to use him more down the middle. Why can't Daboll keep the defenses guessing a bit?
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On 9/18/2018 at 5:09 PM, MAJBobby said:
Now on a side note how is that Culture and DNA doing.
Shady and his off field stuff
A retirement at halftime
Richie going looney
Zay having to be talked off the ledge.
Make it feel so much better we purged those real off field issues
Sammy
Woods
Darby
doesnt it.
And the video game tournament killing. All the pics of the killer I saw in the media you saw him with the Bills logo wall in the background.
And IDK if it's old news, but I only read recently that McVeigh lost it and felt pushed over the edge probably after the 3rd Bills Superbowl defeat!
Seriously, all those stories in a few months! I've never seen this on any other team in any sport whatsoever. And the year is far from over!
But as for THIS one, to me McCoy is innocent til proven guilty. He sure should pick his women better though, whatever what follows!
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Just now, RoyBatty is alive said:
Do we really know that Cleveland had it down to Allen and Mayfield? Teams always signal out misinformation.
I see no positives at all for the Bills relative to how Mayfeild play, they contrast so much personality wise, physically, skill set it isn't even funny. There is no translating one to to other imo.
Besides the italics, I agree
But I still see many good signs with Allen. It's crystal clear Mayfield has way better mastery of the game at this time, but if Josh comes even 90% close to him, with his physical attributes he will be a FORCE
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I hear ya. Al the praise on Darnold while Allen is dismissed out of hand by the media.
To all the Allen haters, didn't he look much better than both Darnold and Tyrod? Like way better? Mayfield is the real deal though. Much better mastery of the game. But who knows in time if Allen picks it up, he has more physical tools.
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I was a TT fan for the first two years with the Bills. No tears for a guy paid $18M this year. Sure the ego is badly bruised but he had 3 years as a starter with the Bills and got hand delivered the #1 spot in Cleveland. All the while making millions and millions. Much better than being a backup in Baltimore and fading out of the game. He just didn't cut it. He can be a decent backup anywhere for years and collect some more $$$. Not the hardest of life on this Earth!
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Would Palmer be interested in a two week stint? I mean NFL team can hire outside "advisers" too.
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So, who thinks Allen is such a bust? So far, Darnold has certainly not looked better, many picks not taken by the Browns and bad stats overall even with a rolling running game that Allen hasn't had yet, and well, any of you miss Tyrod? Browns OLine can't run block at all, worst than the Bills. I like the Jets doing the quick toss to their RB running to the side, that'd be perfect for Shady (reading this Daboll?). And the indiscipline shown by the Jets, ouch. The wipe after the TD and giving the receiver the ball on the sideline on a 4th down, that's as undisciplined as it gets.
The 3rd downs and 8-10-14 that seems so long for so many teams is just another short down for Allen. Yeah he has been inaccurate last game, but look at his strong points too will ya?
I predict Mayfield will be damn good, if not in the second half, at least over the rest of his career. I watched him in the preseason and he's sharp as any rookie I've seen.
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10 hours ago, The Wiz said:
If only. I would have told you you're dumb and you should feel dumb and everyone who read this thread is now dumber for reading it if that were the case.
You're pointing out a scenario that I'm sure most bills fans would be happy with as a bad thing.
Playoffs 5 times in 14 years vs playoffs 1 time in 18 years.
Hard choice.
Yeah so dumb but you brainiac can't even grasp a damn post.
I did put I'd take results like Packers or Saints over the Bills drought. And yeah, I'd take 5 out of 14 instead of 1 in 17, genius. The point of this thread, explained for you, is that many fans think if the Bills have at last a franchise QB, all is settled, while besides with Peyton and Brady, no team has been automatic for playoffs and legit contenders even if they did have superstar QBs. Keeping with arch-rivals, Marino anyone?
And yeah I'll still take a franchise QB on the team anytime. Man you're dense.
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I usually dislike all these so-called journalists that just want to dig dirt, real or imagined, and sell books like leeches and vultures. But hey, anything to attack the Patriots fortress ha ha. That being said, I want to see the Bills beat the Brady-Bellichick duo while they are strong. Not because Father Time hit them in the knees.
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2 minutes ago, The Wiz said:
I'm drinking so take your sober post elsewhere.
Drinking the Bills Koolaid? Watch out! It's addictive
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2 minutes ago, Figster said:
Big fan of Shady , but negative plays in the run game are stalling out drives IMO.
How about mixing in a down hill runner more...
I'm begging Daboll to put both Ivory and Shady at the same time for a good chunk of the plays! Keep the defenses guessing. And pound Ivory down the middle in the first half while using Shady in the flat and as a receiver. Save most of his runs down the middle for the 2nd half.
With the many TE and solid RB stable, he should copy some of the formations of the Bears. Get creative dammit!
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A lot of us have high hope Josh Allen might at last be that all elusive “franchise QB” that would help the Bills be a winning team for years to come. And I’m one of them.
But Rivers again dismantling the Bills have me realizing this: can anyone doubt he is a franchise, elite QB? His play and stats are amazing. While Peyton, Brady and Rodgers were the top guys, Brees and Rivers were certainly close and among a lot of the Top 5 for the last DECADE.
Yet the Chargers made the playoffs only 5 times in the 14 seasons Rivers was there… Sobering fact you need more than a great QB, how much awesome it is. I think Rodgers is the best, yet the Packers success pales compare to the Cheatriots, and even to Manning’s Colts and Broncos.
I’d take the Packers and Saints’ records and SB win over the Bills’ drought, but the point is that a great QB is not the complete answer. And some teams did win the Superbowl with “manager type” QBs. Anyway, even if just for entertainment’s sake, let’s hope Allen becomes a star! But that maybe not be the final piece of the puzzle, just a good chunk of it.
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2 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:
Problem is,
Bellthe Offensive Line IS the Steelers. The entire offense runs throughhimthem.Fixed this
As for this AB story, clickbait and media dishonesty and stirring crap. Who is surprised? BUT him not showing up and his overall pouting... why is the WR position so filled with divas? Wanting the ball and pouting for it, yes, fine. All the rest though? So common
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47 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:
Josh Allen held on to the ball an average of 3.6 seconds before release.
That is not going to cut it in the NFL.
No it's not. But can you cut the kid some slack? It was his first start! And he is very green, not as much college experience as other rookies. Damn people are impatient. If it's still like that 10 games in, then we worry.
And to me this stat doesn't say it all. Rodgers and Big Ben have made a career out of extending plays. Of course that was not the case with Allen but stats don't tell the whole story.
And if you want to use stats, for all his inaccuracy and slow reads issues, he was still among the top QBs for average yards per pass and per pass play!
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IMO the OLine is below average but far from the worst out there. Though they are not that far (doh!). The lack of running lanes worry me more than the past protection so far. No running game = even more pressure on Allen!
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I for one completely understand why they want to protect QBs. They often are the stars of the game, and people pay tickets and watch TV to see stars. But what Clay did on this one, damn, that should never be a penalty! WTH
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
I don't want to be too critical because I feel people read posts from me about Allen and immediately think I have an agenda because of my view on him coming out - which I don't. Also I thought yesterday was a broadly encouraging debut and I am firmly in glass half full territory with him.
But the inaccuracy was still inconsistent to me too. That is what is worried me on his college tape and still does. Being rushed due to sub par protection doesn't help, I am the first to say that line sucks, but there are plays there where there is just no obvious reason why the ball is off.
This season is now all about Josh and a handful of the other young guys (though to a lesser extent). I hope he can continue to take steps and improve.
He really was inaccurate yesterday. I would have tacked it as a bad day but for aaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllll the posts on here mentioning it. Seriously, I didn't see nothing to worry about in preseason or game 1. This one, way more. This time he was. But still, let's see. He still got 245 yards. Take out "garbage time" and it was still 200 yards, with a subpar supporting cast. So even with issues, he can be effective! And overall I still think he showed more good than bad, yet he was inaccurate. So his potential is still way up there. Crazy.
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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Its mind boggling that people are turning this on the organization, the players, the staff, etc. Davis has been AWFUL...not kind of bad, not up and down, but straight AWFUL since joining the Bills, and I was a guy that thought he was going to help make our secondary better. This guy barely made the 53 man roster, then was a healthy inactive week 1. And I am sure for a guy with his level of a previous career, being a healthy scratch, barely making a roster spot, etc was a huge reality check to just how bad he is right now.
Then he was not getting it done in the game either. This guy reminds of the guy who misses everything at the park during basketball and then starts limping or acting like hes hurt to have to "sit out" rest of game to hide that hes quitting cuz hes getting embarrassed.
In fact, this IMO makes the team and organization look BETTER because McD saw this and held him out of week 1 knowing he isnt close to what he was...and McD took over the D play calling and Davis quit, then this whole defense flipped a switch at halftime and shut down Chargers in 2nd half after this.
The ONLY person who looks bad here is Davis. I dont fault him for calling it quits because he is clearly a shell of his former self, but he should have waited until after the game not at halftime leaving his teammates hanging. This will now define his career instead of his resume.
Bingo.
All this talk of McD having lost the lockeroom because of Davis. WHat? Dude was bad and quit in the worst possible way. If there are signs the coach is losing his team, that won't be it.
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6 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:
For starters, it was like night and day comparing the second half today to the first three this season.
It sure was. But was it really because McD made the calls? If so, that remains! But it would surprising it's too that extent. I mean, like you mention it was night and day.
It was like Roman. Great strategies and designs, bad game day calls. It was much better with Lynn calling the plays, but Roman had designed them.
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1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:
Hey, I'm not negative at all about him! I think he'll be a good starter, with a reasonable chance of emerging as a star. My question is whether WE (Bills management/Bills fans) will have the patience to suffer through what will likely be an extended growth period. I hope I'm wrong and he breaks out as a big-time NFL QB before the end of the year. But I don't think that's likely, and I'm simply pointing out that with some of these other guys it WAS immediate and obvious that their teams had found a franchise QB.
Fair. But let's see what Watson does this year. As for Dak and Zak, it's the media making them superstars because their OLine was so damn dominant. I don't think they suddenly went from studs to average because of 2nd year blues or whatever, or the defense "figured them out". Their Oline was really that good. I recall a a game when they ran down the middle for 8-10 yards a play, and the coaches still had to outsmart themselves and throw a pass.
Mahomes has killed it today, but it's fairplay to think what Allen could do with a year on the bench, with good coaches, solid Oline and offensive weapons.
Anyway, point is, no way for now to anoint Josh "THE GUY" and certainly not saying he's a bust!
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12 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
EDIT: my other issue - my impression is that what separates future top-rank QBs from the others (the busts as well as the solid starters) is the ability to recognize defenses and to respond immediately. Think about the recent success stories who started as rookies: Russell Wilson, Carson Wentz, Deshaun Watson, Dak Prescott ... they all seemed to "get it" almost immediately. That seems more important than flashing pure athleticism. Allen's first start was a bit worrying from this perspective, although certainly we need to give him half a season or so to make this call. Again, no knock on him, but he didn't show that immediate ability to adapt to the NFL game that we've seen in a number of other successful QBs. (Goff may be an exception here ...)
Get it right , get it right away... that was his very first game as a starter, 5 and a half quarters. Damn people are impatient.
Dak had a superb OLine his first year, no fair comparison. Wentz is awesome but you know, surrounded by Superbowl quality talent. Wilson and Watson, OK, fair. Still, it was the first game of a guy supposedly not ready. We waited for Tyrod to finally grasp throwing with anticipation, over the middle, etc. and it never happened. So maybe Josh will reach his ceiling fast... but give the kid a chance.
I can't believe all the negative Nancys (not the post quoted) on here saying he is a bust already! Are you mad? You just come to spew vomit? GTFO with that non-sense. If he is a bust, it's not from this game anyone will know it. Not anyone can know from this one game. He looked like a rookie that belongs in the NFL. What more you expect at this stage with his surrounding cast, really?
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24 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said:
Old(er) = more frequent injury.
People that stick to an agenda.... He hasn't bee injured last year, and you mean a 22 yo Shady would have come out just fine from this? Ridiculous
Bills vs. Vikings 1st Half Game Day Thread
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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2 rushing TDs so far from Allen!
Let the dude run it too