[Should the Pegulas Cash Out?]

14 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Let me start by saying that I really like the Pegulas as people - they seem like good citizens and possess integrity and beneficence.  And yes, we as fans owe them gratitude for keeping both the Bills and Sabres afloat and in Buffalo.

 

All of that said, they are horrible owners.  They are well-intentioned and want to win, but clearly have no idea how to do it.  They have empowered the wrong people at the wrong times.  They have proven to be susceptible to good interviews at the expense of more sophisticated due diligence.  They have employed bizarre organizational structures that have undermined the few quality hires they have made.  They have supported borderline insane team building strategies that have resulted in a near-impossible run of sustained failure.  There does not seem to be any end to this trend on the horizon and I’m really struggling to understand what the plan is for turning the Bills and Sabres into winning franchises.  Certainly, pairing first-time GMs with first-time coaches has failed miserably for both teams and, in the case of the Bills, the decision to expel elite talent, rather than maximizing and supporting the talent on hand with quality coaching and added depth, has bombed in spectacular fashion.

 

In a word, they have destroyed two sports franchises.

 

I’m wondering if it’s time for Kim and Terry to look for sale partners for one or both teams.  Perhaps they could sell a majority stake and become passive minority owners (although the leagues may have some restrictions on this) or perhaps they should just sell outright.  I’d imagine at this point their investments have appreciated nicely.  Perhaps it is time for them to reap some of those gains and turn the businesses over to individuals or entities that know what they’re doing.

 

I know some of you will respond to let me know how ungrateful I am.  That’s fine, you’re entitled to your opinions.  My opinion is that the fans here deserve more than just “we kept the franchises in Buffalo” - rather, the fans, who give their hard-earned dollars to billionaires, deserve competence. We’re not getting competence.

S....M....H....

You have a rep to uphold as a quality poster man! You cant be posting nonsense like this. Co'mon!!;)

[Future of the QB position]

2 hours ago, fansince88 said:

Im not going to be popular here at all for this but Nathan is not the player we saw Sunday. He played horrible. Dont sell him down the river yet. Your points on taking the steps and getting this team built for the long haul are spot on. Build the team. It is too old and slow. Give McD time and we will eventually  be good.

Imo, some sense... when it doesn't seem to be all that common at the moment.

[Nate Peterman's performance against the Chargers]

22 minutes ago, Marty McFly said:

 

Get over it boatcolada. Ya got beet. Ya hoped on the petermen train and you crashed into a dumpster fire. We couldve won today. We beat better teams this year than the chargers.

Disagree. Boatdrinks hit the nail on the head. The shortsighteness and knee jerk reactions is scarey. I get it's been 17 years, but it's like people choose to ignore this regime isn't responsible or acting like they should be. Today's performance was not good.  There are MANY issues on this team including BOTH qbs. Are you REALLY going to throw a party for a team that gets to a wildcard at 8-8 and loses?  Cupboards are bare and they are figuring out who to let stick and who not to when they actually get a chanve to try and shape things...ya know...WHEN THEIR FIRST 1ST FIRST(!!!!!) JOINT DRAFT COMES!!! The best thing that came out of this was getting to hear a coach say we want to be better than 5-4. If you are happy with 'just enough' mire power to ya. But dont act all high and mighty for those of us who will deal with days like today if it means we get to be legit good. Have fun with your wildcard loss. Come find me when ya wanna have a celebratory beer over something worth celebrating.

[Gameday Thread 2nd Half Bills @ Chargers]

8 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

This team was never going to make the playoffs this year.

 

Taylor will never take a team to the playoffs as a starter.

 

Bills will tank the rest of this season.

 

Peterman will start the rest of the year.

 

 

Preach! Near sighted naysayers who need everything to be instant will of course disagree. The 5 wins happened and people still got drunk. Now they wanna cut their nose off to spite their face. In 2 yrs if the draft capital busts and we are still looking like this fine - move on. Until then, let em do their thing!!

[Gameday Thread 1st Half Bills @ Chargers]

1 minute ago, BillsSbSoon said:

We were big, physical and talented just a few years ago. Now we are completely soft and as least talented since jauron. Lezlie frasier is a soft coach and this defense has followed suit. 

I liked marrone and whaley. We were a qb away. Now theres problems basically everywhere. Just angry and disgusted. Dennison is a joke too. 

Smh... whaley... hot-dog

[Gameday Thread 1st Half Bills @ Chargers]

7 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said:

Great, give an unqualified guy 3 years to prove what's obvious to everyone 3 games into the season.

 

You think the Bills would be better with Ryan's 3 year as coach right now?  You think the Bengals are better for giving Lewis 9 years?  How bout the Rams giving Fisher all that time to prove himself?

 

If a guy proves he can't handle the job, fire him and bring in someone who can. 

 

Again, McDermott has done nothing but drain the roster, miss on the best QB on the draft, install the most passive defensive scheme since Jauron's Buffalo days, destroy the running game, and made a horrible in-season QB change decision, which is going to lose him that carefully cultivated locker room he touts.

 

Fire him now.  Bring in a football czar to run the draft and a coaching staff that will implement an attacking defense.  The franchise will be better for it in the long run.

Lol, you Cray Cray HARDCORE!! I get you want ur team to win, as do we all... but had they not squeaked 5 wins out we'd be embracing the tank/plan. At least give em a draft to fix a depleted roster before you start spewing fire the coach nonsense....

[Gameday Thread 1st Half Bills @ Chargers]

2 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said:

I hope he's fired for it.  This guy is a disaster.  Drains the roster of talent; passes over the top QB in the draft; implements a passive defensive scheme; destroys the #1 rushing attack in the league; replaces a bad QB with a terrible one.

 

This guy is a fraud.  At least we can enjoy watching cap space and future draft picks the rest of the year.

Takes like this is what caused 17+ years. Ya gotta tear down and build. There's an actual plan. Reading this just shows how idiotic things have gotten w the fans. Today isn't great granted... but what kinda jacka calls for a coach to be fired. Put some ice in ur shorts and chill out

[Gameday Thread 1st Half Bills @ Chargers]

5 minutes ago, section122 said:

Watching people do mental gymnastics to defend the great white hope is almost as bad as watching this game.  As much as you may hate Tyrod he deserves to be in this game right now.  

 

If you disagree ask yourself what you would be saying if Tyrod had 3 picks in the first quarter 1 going for 6.

Ur kinda doing the same for taylor- just saying...

[Apostrophe]

Sorry, not very familiar with os and versions etc. 

Fully updated Samsung galaxy 8s. 

It never fails though. Any time that particular punctuation (and so far only that) it just boots me right out of the text box and it appears blank until I go back into it and then the text shows back up and lets me continue.... until the next time lol.

Fwiw, Im not actually generally using the apostrophe,  but rather the auto spell correct inserts it and thats when the issue happens. Its happened 3x just responding now.

[Gruden on Peterman]

9 hours ago, rsxfirefighter said:

What are you smoking, that article is all about Brady..not Peterman.

 

Unless there is a hidden innuendo in that somewhere that I was oblivious to.

 

Lol, did that really need to be called out??

[Apostrophe]

Oddly, each time an apostrophe is used, I get booted from the text portion. When I click back in the text area the previous written text is still there- but I find myself using words with no punctuation in that regard because it's(lol just happened) really frustrating. I have only noticed this on mobile. Thanks!

[Longtime NFL Scout Says Taylor Is "Below Average QB"]

These guys didnt wake up one day and suddenly find themselves as the HC and GM of a football team. It sounds like they made an effort to upgrade and when TT took less- here we are. As bad as he looked the other day, at least he's capable of excitement. It's why he was refreshing and stood out in the 1st place and won that 1st battle with cassel and ej. Id rather TT than Hoyer,  cassel, or whatever other dumpster diving qb was the alt had he not renegotiated. They know what they have here. This year was supposta be terrible. We got some bounces and it's turned out all right.  Now things are evening out and TTs flaws are becoming apparent again. Too much knee jerk drama. It's not like these reports are exclusive content to TBD lol. They know what's up. When the tide turns no way TT is the man leading them. He might even be here next year as the starter for the 1st couple weeks if a rookie is waiting in the wings.. but we still have to play the season (s) to get to the payoff... and eventually playoffs

[Longtime NFL Scout Says Taylor Is "Below Average QB"]

Answer is simple then... 

Play Peterman and let him get his 'Edwards pre-AZ' out of his system. By that logic, at least they'll get to the playoffs before the book is out on him! Tyrod takes Tates job! Problem solved!;)

[Every Nate Peterman throw from the Saints game]

This makes me think of when people thought EJ could be a changed man with his "going to let it rip" comment. What gets me, TT is human. He says he "doesnt listen to the crowd" but thats crap. How can you not? Im glad NP got an ovation yesterday if for no other reason than if they are insistent on keeping TT as the starter - maybe that opened his eyes. Maybe it knocked a thought loose and he considered "gee, maybe I ought to let it rip." We can make remarks like he doesn't get etc etc... But he's not stupid. Hopefully it's is he capable of making the necessary change. Yesterday was terrible and I'm ready for something new don't get me wrong - but let s not pretend TT has never thrown a pass linger than a check down. Again, if it's THIS obvious, I can't help but wonder why and wtf he was doing yesterday...

[Every Nate Peterman throw from the Saints game]

14 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I think McDermott and Beane have a 3 year window where their jobs are in no danger at all.

Agreed - if for no other reason than it's something that they haven't done yet. At the very least one would hope they got the musical chairs approach out of their system. We as fans are partially to blame as well. I feel like years ago (and maybe it's also due to the change in media intensity) changes happened when the owner saw fit and it was what it was. It seems the longer this went on, the more influence from outside sources was taken into account to appease the fans. Some folks here were done with McBeane after the Jets game. 17 yrs sucks,  but my god... Rome wasn't built in a day. Musical chairs gets viewed as a joke from a National perception. I am however glad this approach was taken after the realization (with the help of his own mouth) that Rex wasn't the solution.

[Every Nate Peterman throw from the Saints game]

Garbage time/not garbage time.

Peterman good/Peterman not good.

Pointless arguing bc no one has the answer.

What is clear however, is that FANS are ready for the 'anti-Tyrod' and in this case it happens to be a 5th rd draft pick named Nathan Peterman.

Armchairing it, it's evident  (some might say obvious) a qb who makes his drop (while making his read) and cuts it loose giving his guys a chance to make a play might also alleviate a stacked box.

If we see it,  and it's this painfully obvious ya gotta believe the staff is aware as well. 

Politics? Room divide? A rookie deemed not yet ready? Or maybe simply just not ready to pull the plug? All things we aren't privy to. 

Maybe they don't wanna ruin him...

Maybe he isn't ready for an NFL defense. 

Maybe they view it as throwing in the towel and they still feel the vet gives them the best shot at a season. Maybe they feel if they give him the rope and more time TT will hang himself.

Who knows... But we clamor bc he is, after all - the 'anti-tyrod'

[Peterman vs. Chargers?]

All we heard all week from McD was that theyve talked to him and hes watched all of KBs snaps to know what kind of a weapon he has at his disposal. Last week when romo was saying what TT SHOULD do with a guy 1 I'm 1 it was embarassing BUT he was a qb so it is what it is.

This week when freaking Kenny Albert is pointing out what TT needs to do....it was just sad..

[Peterman vs. Chargers?]

Id be curious if TT getting benched would create a divide or relief behind closed doors. Benji is prob wondering what he got himself into. Maybe he talks to taylor and gets his mind set more ready to sling it!

[Peterman vs. Chargers?]

As often as we jump to knee jerk reactions, Id love to actually know where the fault lies here. Is it TTs refusal to get rid of the ball quick and as a result is stuck with a Check down? Is it Rico calling terrible plays that harness TT? Is it a perfect storm of HS play calling combined with TTs inability to run the play how it was envisioned? Either way, it feels and LOOKS very square peg, circle hole-ish. 

Personally, I think that TT has done some good things here and if for NO OTHER REASON will be given the rest of this year (until we are out) to try to do what he can. Peterman might be a better fit for this offense if for no other reason than hitting his drop and the ball coming out.  He also seems to have no issues trying to sling it - which is why he gained a cult following in the preseason. 

Let's face it... it's not so much clamoring for Peterman as it is he seems to be the anti TT.

Granted Peterman made his mark today in garbage time, but TT had essentially 2 qtr of garbage time and was unable to do anything.

The man is too timid and it's maddening.

Amazing, who woulda thought a guy will go up and make a play for you if he's not college open.

Hopefully watching Peterman and hearing his ovation wakes something up inside TT and he comes out chucking the ball. If not, things could get EVEN MORE frustrating...