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Figured it was only appropriate to say goodbye to a topic that's taken up so much of my time over the past couple years. Can't say I'll miss it and I'm sure soon enough there will be a replacement - but until then....WHEW!!
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4 minutes ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said:
If we could All just be like you
Hey man, to each their own. While not actually offering something of substance at least you were original. If you dig more clicks to find grounded and well informed/new takes and discussion be my guest. More power to you! Me? It's pretty evident there are some EXCELLENT posters and takes here. Ya just need to know where to look to find them. This thread is not one of em. They've been doing it for years and continue to do so. Thankfully of course bc with out them it just wouldn't be worth it.
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30 minutes ago, JinxedBill1 said:
This staff is too smart to not have a plan for both. Have to think they have a FA or trade QB right now that's an upgrade from Taylor to trade him.
Draft your QB of the future.
This is obvious and evident but does bear mentioning as you have. Theories abound and everyone has their favorite so inivetibly there will be some form of disappointment to varying degrees but no way do these guys cut their starter (even if only in name) and not have multiple fall back plans for different senerios. I'd be shocked if this wasn't the 1st step to get to point B and move that plan along in that they don't seem like the type to move unless there is already something else in the works nearing completion.
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6 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:
no
lazy way of thinking..
Check and mate.
Ps- I'm sorry your beloved tyrod was traded.
PPS-No one will make you go to the parade someday, but of course you are welcome!!
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4 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said:
How many stupid, repeat threads until it stops?
Right? Surely the op couldn't have thought this was an original/fresh post rather than looking 2 threads up or down.
That said, it's got all the key elments of a classic dupe.
The potential trade senerio (Duh..)
The fan boy subject of the trade up
The innocence/ignorance of the thread
And finally, the invitation to discuss what's already being discussed in every other thread as if there is an original spin.
Yearning for social interaction makes the fingers type some crazy things...
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2 hours ago, jmc12290 said:
Seriously. I can't think of a single FA QB with limited playing time who took less money for a chance to compete for a starting job.
Tyrod lol
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The only poll(e) necessary is the one I get when thinking about a trade up for a top an prospect who turns the franchise into a contender. I'll deal with the bust/whammie aspect later. No reason for a buzzkill on a day like today:)
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13 hours ago, KelsaysLunchbox said:
Wish you wouldn't come here.
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3 hours ago, Badthingsman said:
I'm not saying that QB is not the most important position. What I am saying is there is not enough talk about the game changer on defense. JJ Watt is a great example. Khalil Mack is another. Suh was an animal. I'd also like to add that (forget Maybin) the odds on a stud defender working out are WAY better than a QB. Just look at the long line of loser first round QB's like Couch, Manziel, Barkely, etc.
So why even bother to try? (He said sarcastically)
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13 hours ago, Tipster19 said:
1. First off the QB position isn’t our only need. There’s several positions that are either aged or totally lacking of top caliber talent. Plus the cost of moving up in the draft would not only gut this year’s picks but would more than likely tap into some of next year’s as well.
2. How many times has it been stated that the best way to build a roster is through the draft. A team can’t do it without and/or minimal picks.
3. It appears that we are plugging holes with FAs, especially with prove it type contracts. Here’s the thing though, don’t lose sight that these will become holes to fill in the near future (2019?). That is why it’s important to retain our current top draft picks and use them on up and coming players with cap friendly contracts. The holes that Beane is filling today are holes that going to be filled tomorrow so to speak. Don’t be surprised that these are going to be the same positions that we draft for. We need better contracts with younger players and this is how you do it.
4. I would like to see us to keep on following this blueprint of plug and play veterans that give us roster depth for the time being until we can get through these next 2 years (2018 and 2019). Furthermore I think that the Bills should use this philosophy also in securing a QB (Keenum?) that replaces Tyrod.
5. To elaborate more on the contract mindset just look at our DT position as an example. I’m paraphrasing here so bear with me, my numbers may not be completely accurate but this is really more about making a point. An aging Kyle Williams is still up in the air and we have 1, possibly 2 unproven DTs on the current roster. If I’m not mistaken Ndamukong Suh is going to count something like 26M towards Miami’s cap. The Rams’ Aaron Donald is up for a new contract, hence the Rams trading off some of their top defensive players (Alec Ogletree and Robert Quinn). They are prioritizing, creating cap space for re-signing and retaining some of their current players at other positions, Donald, Watkins etc etc. The Bills can’t afford contracts like Suh’s and soon to be re-signed Donald’s. Some of the reason for Dareus being traded was due to his absorbent contract, it was way out of whack.
In closing I want to point out one last thing. Beane inherited the current affairs, he didn’t create it. It’s going to take some time to turn things around and balance not only the caliber of player but also the caliber of their contracts. It’s a business and our books are in somewhat of a shamble. We haven’t had a real GM in God knows how long, it seems like it has been run by a committee for almost as long as I can remember. Now I don’t know how good of a GM Beane is or if he’s the right guy but at least this administration/front office is finally getting structured the proper way.
With all this being said I can hardly wait to see what the Bills are going to do in free agency and the upcoming daft!
Go Bills!
I worry about 11 rep points in just under 4k posts (4 of which are on this post alone) but it seems you have really thought this out so I gotta give you credit for that....
BUT I fundamentally disagree with the majority of this.
Getting a QB that works out allows as well as forces a team to build through the draft.
As previously noted, drafting a QB means he comes FROM the draft.
Lasting success is generally achieved via a lasting star QB who tends to make others rise to his level and can make nobodies stars.
Fluke years aside, w/o a qb you are just spinning your tires.
Many of the above points were tried both ways during the last 17 years to varying degrees of success but all fell short bc (say it with me now) we were unable to draft that franchise guy.
No matter how great or poor the roster was, the lack of qb to put it over the top made it a moot point.
game, set, match.
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19 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
There's no such thing as an inordinate amount of focus on the most difficult position in professional major sports when a team hasn't had a viable long term solution since 1996.
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God i cant wait until the draft is over so the daft threads and the weak sauce takes stop.
Its always amazes me how many "fans" and self proclaimed "educated enthusiasts" are willing to come to a web site and publicly attach their name to nonsense.
i guess there is always something to complain about - but if you could add JJ Watt or Aaron Rodgers to your team (both great players so credit where its due) but outside the 1 guy who wants to be difficult and different EVERYONE else picks Rodgers.
Maybe the equivalent to each isnt even IN this class but ya gotta at least try for the right answer to the above question....
and YES there IS a right answer
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1 hour ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said:
Like who? Adrian Clayborn? Kony Ealy? Alex Okafor? Maybe we'll get lucky and Demarcus Lawrence will hit the free agent market and sign with the Bills. NOT!
Hahahahahahahaha did you really just 'NOT' dude?? Yikes
Anywho, I like Jerrah, and I hate that it opens a hole but simple logic suggests if you have a qb who can just light it up and put up points galore and carry the team on his back to victory -the kind of qb who you move to #2 and CAN become a franchise guy- IF you hit on that guy you are golden and a hole could be a bit more plug and play.
You seem to be more of a play it safe kind of guy, but I'm more of a sock of middling it for the last 17 yrs and would like to see a future HOFer playing the position again. If that's the cost then do it up with out a 2nd thought.
Meanwhile, have fun with your Tyord or Keenum taking you to the Superbowl....
NOT!!!! Lol
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Then half to two thirds of the fan base will be happy, and half to two thirds will come around. Same as every decision that happens. I personally want them to do whatever it takes for their guy (who I hope is Rosen, but if they are in love with another, they've dug deeper in film and are better scouts than I) and if it doesn't work out- at least they tried. It's always a bit of a crap shoot and even when it isn't, things still aren't a guarantee ah la lucks current situation. That said, ya gotta be in it to win it and I'd like a whack at a top guy rather than the next best like Losman. I'll be happier if he turns ELITE, but just trying is the 1st step
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1 hour ago, bills6969 said:
I think he's the best QB in the draft. Has an arm like Rodgers. Only thing I question is his football IQ? Hard to dissect that on tape. Assuming that is good, i'd say trade up and pull the trigger on this guy.
Only thing is his football iq?
Respectfully, have you been paying attention to this year's SR Bowl and combine?
It's not being hilighted often, but are you aware if his shoulder and it's history?
I assume you've seen his completion %??
I mean jeesh... if we are going to start a discussion, let's at least try and get the facts on the tangables straight..
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6 hours ago, gjv001 said:
I would be very surprised to see Beane trade both 1st round picks for a QB. Would not be surprised to see him move for a QB, they covet, who falls to a point that only one 1st round pick and some other mid-level draft compensation is required.
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Why?
Do you know Beane?
Do you know McD?
What do you know that makes this insightful in the least?
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8 hours ago, Cygnus99 said:
I like Tyrod he is a good person and may not be the best quarterback but he does have some great talents at times . If he stays with Buffalo I will still support the Bills no matter what happens . Try to think positive . Last year we were 9-7 and made it to the playoffs
This year let's go for 10-6 ( still second place ) and win at least a playoff game
GO BILLS !
LOL!!! after seeing the thread where the guy says he'll quit if the Bills KEEP tyrod, you just couldnt help yourself could you?
I've never understood why some random 'rah'rah' thought like this wouldnt have been posted as an argument to the other useless thread that already exists.
Furthermore - ( and i swear this sounds like me being a jerk but it simply is what it is and I dont mean to be rude) WHO CARES?
If you are a fan of the team, you'll like them regardless even if you disagree with their decisions. Fans dont run the team, and its assumed you'll stick as a fan (assuming you are a true fan) through thick and thin. Dumb decisions and great decisions. Either you are a fan or you arent.
Why Joe Schmos feel the need to come in the interwebs and declare their love or hate based on a decision they cant control or in some cases even comprehend is mind boggling.
If you ABSOLUTELY have to get something off your chest and NEED to have this be its own thread, bring something different. Even if its off the wall crazy.
Luckily, your fellow posters have lifted you up and kinda turned this into a 'what was the closest you've ever come to turning in your fan card' discussion - but not everyone is as lucky as you.
The above sounds like something someones mom would say who is a casual fan of the local HS football team!!
If all else fails and you still INSIST on creating a thread like this at least hook us up with orange slices and juice boxes
S_M_H
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1 hour ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said:
New England - doesn't matter what the atmosphere is like. as long as Brady is the QB, it's a loss.
Minnesota - if it's Cousins, combined with that defense, it's a loss.
Green Bay - Rodgers was shut down because we had a dominant defensive line that included a motivated Mario Williams and Marcel Dareus. That game was also won, because Rodgers missed a wide open Jordy Nelson on what would have been a guaranteed 70+ yard TD pass.
Lions - it's a home game and whoever starts at left tackle will have to deal with Ziggy Ansah on the edge. Stafford will also be throwing all over the field to Golden Tate and Marvin Jones - both of them might have career games.
Bears - Trubisky will be more experienced and they still an improving defenseBuffalo Bills Detective? More like Buffalo Bills Pessimist, IMO.
I get not wanting to get your hopes up... but why bother being a fan - let alone come to a message board?
Unless you are one of these folks who just sticks around to watch it burn this is some pretty shoddy detective work.
Maybe turn that card in at the door. You can however keep your bills fan card - provided you turn that frown upsidedown and provide a few more 'upbeat' takes.
DEAL?
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1 hour ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said:
Um, for one thing, we still play in the same division as the Patriots and their QB is this guy named Tom Brady. We're also playing the NFC North next season, that includes games AT Minneapolis and AT Green Bay (2 guaranteed losses) and home games against improved Lions and Bears teams. We're also playing the AFC South, with 3 potential losses against Houston, Tennessee and Jacksonville.
sounds like you have them at sub 500 either way - so by that logic why does it matter to you who plays qb?
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1 hour ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said:
The only way the Bills would be in a position to move up for Rosen, would be for Darnold or Allen to go 1st overall, the Giants take Saquon Barkley at 2 and they trade up to 3 with Indy.
Even then, do you want this team, with all of its holes, to give up 2 firsts this year and possibly a 1st and 2nd in 2019 for Rosen?
yes
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1 hour ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:
I’m not predicting anything
then how do you know whats going to happen (or happened) in 2026? lol
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18 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:
The money quote that gives you hope we have finally found the right guy who can look at the situation, analyze the numbers and not just rest his ego on bottom line results.
in someways when you say “we aren’t as good as you think we are” he is basically saying yeah we are 9-7 WC team but in several key stats we were worse in 2017 than we were in 2026 and the WC is largelt based on a missed call on a Matt Ryan fumble, a missed Adam Vineteri FG, and Andy Dalton.
so do not expect that we are moving toward our window. In fact this quote leans toward preparing the fans for things to go slowly in season 2 and perhaps even backwards record wise (should it be with a rookie QB)
Either way...recognizing the limitations and allowing that to influence your decisions is sound.
sigh of relief!
Is there ANYTHING I can do to convince you to give me a ride in your time machine? Pretty please?? I just think that d be SSSSOOOOO cool!!:)
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3 hours ago, Buff808 said:
I will guarantee the Bill will do the wrong thing, they always do. They should keep Taylor. If they can get Bridgewater, forget these dam rookies, if you didn't learn from the last fifteen years you will never learn. Use the picks to build a team around these QBs play to win now before your good players all have to retire. We may get. QB in the 3rd round. He may be just as good without the risk of putting our future in one pick, if he is a flop we lose big time.
You must be an absolute pleasure to watch a game with;)
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3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
I don't see Minnesota in the QB market, they have 3 QBs, one of them had to go. They probably figured Keenum was a flash in the pan or think Bridgewater will get back to normal and keep Bradford as the backup.
You understand their contract situations right? Just bc they had 3 qbs last year doesn't mean they have 3 qbs NEXT year. Generally, when contracts expire the player isn't expected to come right back the next year with out a contract. Thank R.C.Owens for that. Teddys status is still up in the air, but since neither of these other qbs are named Drew Brees and a guy like Cousins is out there it makes sense for the time being, MAYBE, they have 1 qb. I'd imagine that's prob pretty convient if they want to get skinny in the roster at that position for someone they deem special.
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I for one was unaware the draft even had non qbs to pick from lol. Just doesnt seem as fun
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Josh Rosen has to be the target!
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Could they though? One was a trade up to get in the party and the other was essentially bc they decided they needed to draft a qb. When you can trade down and still get the 1st qb off the board it's not exactly awe inspiring. Kirby summed it up pretty well w his thoughts imo