
Jrb1979
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14 minutes ago, teef said:
aren't you the guy that thought only people from wny drink light beer?
What does that have anything to do with what I posted? Do people not enjoy the summer?
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Summers are so short in most of the country, that it's crazy so many hate hot weather. There is lots to do in this nice weather, that you can't do in winter. Who doesn't like going to theme parks, go to the beach or camp.
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Whenever I go to a Sabres game, I have never had any issues getting out of downtown after the game. Putting the Bills downtown shouldn't be an issue. If they upgrade the metro rail it will help.
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6 minutes ago, Gugny said:
There's no risk in buying electronics online.
I get clothing/shoes ... I won't buy those online, because I like to see them and try them on for size.
But when I can get something online for a significantly lower price ... I will. Anything electronic. Guitar strings/accessories. Hell, I even bought batteries online because they were so much cheaper.
I no longer get the paper delivered because it's so overpriced. I get the same news online for free.
Any chance I get to save, I will. It sucks. My ex works in retail and I know the struggles. But it's real life.
I agree with electronics but now people are buying groceries online. Where does it end. IMO we are starting to become a Hermit Society. Having everything delivered to us, downloading movies illegally, watching sports and drinking at home.
Nobody seems to socialize anymore.
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Online shopping is overrated. I know, I work in retail and see more returns from online then anything else. Its much easier to go to the store so you can see what you are buying instead of hoping that's what you bought. The other thing is it leads to closing of stores, which leads to less jobs but if you're tooooooo busy to shop then all the power to you. Studies have shown we aren't any busier then we were years ago. Maybe stop putting your kids in multiple activities and parent. Stop trying to be their friend.
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2 hours ago, Shaw66 said:
Like I said, I can't be bothered to play in your world. You go ahead and knock yourself out.
You expect them to slowly get better year after year? I'm sorry this isn't the Rockpile days, no team rebuilds for more then 2 seasons.
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20 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
Imo they all know a lot more about hockey than they do football
I think there is nothing wrong with that. They need more Sabres talk on WGR. It feels a lot of times the Sabres are not on the same level as the Bills. I realize a lot of Bills fans aren't hockey fans.
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1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:
I don't agree about talent. Nobody out-talents the other teams for very long.
I discussed accuracy above. I dont think accuracy is a serious problem with Allen. This year will answer the question, because he will throw a lot of short balls. We will see.
It's true I'm a Billiever, but I understand the process can fail for any number of reasons. I don't see a lot of point in arguing that the Bills should be doing something else. It's obvious what the approach is McBeane are following, and it's a slow-build approach. Beyond that, however, I actually do believe it's a good approach. At least there's a plan. Whaley and Marrone and Rex all seemed to be winging it.
I disagree about talent. You can only scheme so much and win. It takes talent to win in this league. Very rare has a team won without top end talent at QB, WR and RB. If you have those players, your odds of winning many games a season is increased. Its easier to keep 3 players together as opposed to a highly ranked defense year after year.
Look at last season, the Chiefs and Colts both made the playoffs and they both have top end talent at QB, WR and RB. Then you look at the Bills, a bunch of scrubs at WR and bad QB play.
As far as a plan goes, a slow build approach is not needed in todays NFL. Look at the Browns, I know they have been bad for years, but their new GM made moves to win now. By adding OBJ with the talent they already have, they are looking like a contender for the AFC North title.
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1 hour ago, Augie said:
Fair enough. I get you want to see the baby, and that’s OK. Will Josh become the real deal? I have no idea, but I think he has about a 50/50 chance. If he’s the guy, we will be fine.
As for copying the Pats....I don’t see that. I think we draft better and will get younger cheaper talent. We just don’t have the best QB who ever lived. That hurts a bit.
I’m fine with missing out on a head case and cap sucker like AB. I’d have loved his talent, but I’m not sure I’d want the rest of his package. I trust the FO on this call. Me first is not the right kind of guy. You can feel free to go all out betting on the Raiders over the next 4-5 years. I’ll take the Bills over that same period.
For a team like the Bills who lack talent at WR, a guy like Antonio Brown is something the Bills can use. Talent wins in this league, a bunch of plug and play WRs doesn't usually work. I will take a guy like OBJ or AB over Beasley or Foster every day of the week.
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On 7/11/2019 at 10:07 AM, Shaw66 said:
I think this is correct. I think athletes' comfort zone comes from being prepared. And it isn't just athletics. I've done some public speaking over the years, and it's clear that study and practice and technique all are important, but the real key is that when you put it all together, when you've developed some skills AND you're really prepared, you get up there and you're thinking "I've got this."
You can see the Patriots improving through the season, and you can see the players able to make plays in tight games, late in the season. They aren't big plays - they're ordinary plays. Just deflect the pass, just make the catch. And then every once in a while you'll see Edelman make a miracle catch, and all it is is determination and focus. Then they get to the playoffs and it all steps up. No one looks out of place, no one is flustered.
I think McDermott is completely focused on this concept. I think that's what he's teaching. He's trying to load his team with fast, good athletes who will work all day, every day just to make the play they're supposed to make. Not the great play, not the extraordinary play, just the play they're supposed to make. If they make the tackle, great, but if they're making the play they're supposed to make sometimes it just means that some teammate makes the play HE's supposed to make and makes the tackle. He teaching a total team concept. He's teaching people that if you make the play on punt coverage that allows your teammate to make the tackle, your defensive teammates can keep the other guys off the scoreboard.
I've seen this concept working in McD's defense from his first season. You see it most easily in the safeties. Hyde and Poyer have been in a comfort zone almost since they arrived. They know where they're supposed to be and they go there. They just do it. The result is that someone makes a play, maybe them, maybe someone else. I think that's the difference we see in Hughes's play, too. When McD arrived, the game stopped being about Jerry and started being about the defense. And I see the same thing when I watch Belichick's defense. Other than the shut down corner, it's hard to see anyone out there who looks great - they all just look like when the play comes to them, they make it. They all know they can make the ordinary play, they're in a comfort zone about it. And when 11 guys are making the ordinary play, every time - going where they're supposed to go, taking on the block, filling a zone, whatever - when they all do it every time, the collective effort is great.
And, to you're point, to you have that, you have to learn to move your comfort zone from the practice field to the games, from the games to the post-season and into the Super Bowl. You can be ready, and the moment's not too big for you. But, to use an oft-repeated word around here, it's a process. You have to experience the comfort zone on the practice field first, and then you have to learn to get into that zone in games. You make some mistakes along the way, because you lose focus when the bright lights are on, but once you regain the focus, the comfort zone returns. Then you get to the playoffs and you have to learn to stay in the comfort zone. The beauty of what Belichick and Brady have done is that they've built a nucleus that has learned this and internalized it, so that, as you say, the comfort zone is limitless. A new player comes to the team, and they pull him into this process that is churning away. IF the player doesn't conform to that mentality, he gets spit out and another guy is plugged in. Some guys are naturals, like Hogan. There simply was no question in my mind that Hogan would succeed in New England. He's the prototype for Belichick - really good athlete, determination, work ethic, doesn't care who gets the credit.
It's pretty obvious that that's what McD is trying to do. When McBeane talk about the kind of guys they're looking for, it's the Hogans, the Milanos. That's why, although people pooh-pooh it, some of us get excited about a guy like David Sills. Will Sills make it? I have no idea. But I do know that he is the prototype, just like Hogan. He's going to do his job, every day, he's going to do it with focus and determination. When he gets his chance to play, he's going to be ready and he's going to be in his comfort zone, because that's how he's always done things. He's going to run the route, make the block, fill the zone, whatever, and when the play comes his way, he'll make it, because he's ready to make it.
And, McD has a QB who fits perfectly. Allen wants to be better and better. He studies, he works he practices. He's smart. You can see him growing into HIS comfort zone. He has the same kind of intangibles Brady has, down to the chip on his shoulder, having been dissed by so many people from high school through college and the draft. And, by the way, he's much better physically than Brady. Better arm, better mobility, better ability to move in the pocket. I think we're looking at, potentially, the next Chuck Noll and Terry Bradshaw, potentially the next Jimmy Johnson and Troy Aikman, yes, potentially even the next Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.
I know you really want to BILLieve badly that the Bills are finally going to turn it around and have success, I just don't see it. Copying the Pats may seem like a great idea but they are an outlier on how teams are built. You need elite talent to win in this league, plug and play guys will only get you so far. Antonio Brown was the type of WR the Bills have needed for a long time. I know Brown nixed the deal but the fact so many Bills fans didn't want him shows me they only want elite talent as long as they aren't me first players.
As far as QB's go, just cause a guy studies film, practices hard, and is mobile doesn't make him a franchise guy. You also need to me accurate and have good completion percentage, which Allen has never had yet in his career. QB's don't suddenly become accurate over night.
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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:
Who are these people in western NY?
You keep saying that but then explain how it works in Cleveland. They have PSL's and just raised their ticket prices. I am pretty sure Cleveland as a city isn't any more well off then Buffalo is. I think it's just that a lot of are afraid of being priced out.
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3 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
Absolutely. There is nothing to talk about, at all. I just want to see this team on the field!
How about enjoy the summer. There is lots to do to keep you busy til the season starts.
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My question to the ones that are against a new stadium is have any of you been to any of the newer stadiums? Its not football but I love Progressive Field in Cleveland. Its a really nice stadium with great amenities. The one level has a family area with games for kids to play. The food was really good and a lot of local restaurants had a booth to get food from.
People have to realize that the NFL and the Bills are about making money. A new downtown stadium with only Bills owned lots for tailgating would bring in more money. Private lots don't earn the Bills any money. I bet the area will be smaller so more people will go to the local bars to tailgate before the game. Again to bring in more money to the Bills. Tickets will for sure go up but probably to be more in line with the league average. On average the Bills tickets are about $70, I can see them jumping close to the league average of $120.
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1 minute ago, teef said:
it might confuse him. he's since gone from lite beer being a wny thing, to maybe it's an american thing, to now it's age group thing, (in another thread on this very topic). it's like he just can't imagine some people are willing to drink lite beer. guess what? it happens!
It won't confuse me. I just don't understand why anyone drinks lite beer cause it can't be cause of the taste.
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1 minute ago, teef said:
i think you need to get out more bud. light beer is everywhere. there may not be the saturation of it in other countries like it is here, but it's not like it's limited to a region. all of this is strange. are you going out of your way to let us know that you refuse to drink light beer? cool. how many high end beers do you drink during a game day on average would you say?
Lite beer is everywhere. I just don't understand the love of it. That's all I am getting at. Maybe it's an older generation thing or an American thing. I just don't see the point in drinking a lite beer just so I can drink more of them. Don't you want to drink something that tastes good? On average I usually drink maybe 6 to 8 high end beers on gameday.
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6 minutes ago, teef said:
because it's not lite beer. i've been to the ellicottville brewery a number of times. my wife loves the town, so we stay there once a year typically. there beer is good, but it's like any other craft beer on the market. i just don't know why you're comparing the two. this shouldn't be this hard.
It must be an American thing cause in Canada lite beer seems to only popular with the older crowd. The younger generation will drink Canadian or Alexander Keith's at a party or tailgating.
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1 hour ago, teef said:
well, you'll find blue at a sabres game because it's a considered a "local" beer. also why you may not find it at other stadiums. i'm not sure if i've ever seen genny at the stadium. you're more likely to find it in rochester based establishments because...wait for it...it's the local beer! make sense?
i enjoy a good beer too. that's the point. just if i'm going to be drinking for a period of time, i prefer lighter beer. i'm not drinking lighter beer so it goes "down in 10 minutes" and be hammered before the game. what do you do? sip slowly on a "good beer" until it turns warm? we get it. you don't want to drink light beer. don't do it. i just don't know why you think preferring to drink light beer is a wny thing. when i lived in boston, i'd watch those psychos drink 30 packs of natural light all day. extended drinking is a lot of the time done with light beer. maybe you're palate is just too refined for that.
Maybe it's an an American thing. Cause light beer isn't as big up here except with the older generation. Any time I have extended drinking here is done with Canadian or Bud.
I don't sip slowly on good beer til it turns warm. If I am going to be drinking for a period of time I prefer something that at least tastes good. Light beer is any less alcoholic then a Yuengling and that tastes better. Unless of course you worry about calories.
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14 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
Pretty sure OP was legally allowed to drink within the last 12 months and just had his first Stella/Heineken. Now hes here to tell us all about this new thing called craft beer.
Hate to break it to you but I have been legally allowed to drink for 25 years now. I have never like Blue or Genny. Yeungling is my go to if I am tailgating or at a party. Goes down easy and is good tasting.
24 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:People tend to have pride in where they're from especially when the rest of the country uses Buffalo as the butt end of cheap jokes and Buffalo is a city which was built on blue collar jobs. Labatt's main distribution and production is in Buffalo and Genny is made an hour down I-90 in Rochester. People like cheap beer. People like local.
Is this really a mystery?
Cheap is what Genny and Blue taste like. There is much better local stuff then either one of those two. Big Ditch or Ellicottville is far better tasting.
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36 minutes ago, shrader said:
I think that love of Blue is going to slowly die off. There's way too much available today thanks to the micro brew explosion. It'll always be there, but once you have an entire generation of drinking who have been exposed to the current market, the tastes are going to shift. Of course, Labatt will start to make other options as well.
Which is not a bad thing. A lot of micro brews are really good. Seeing some of the big brews slowly die down is a good thing. Light and bland tasting beer will be a thing of the past soon.
1 minute ago, Marv's Neighbor said:The "blue collar" came from all the industrial plants, that are now mostly gone. All those plants were surrounded by neighborhood bars, where the employees used to cash their checks. They also paid their current bar tab and started a new one. They drank whatever was "on tap;" Iraquois, Manru, Schmidts, Kochs, Simon Pure, Carlings, etc.
They were happy with whatever was availablere after 8-10 hours in the mill/plant. Can't imagine anyone of them having any interest in the modern craft beers.
Hope we keep the Blue Collar ID. Better than pencil neck.
Having a Blue Collar Identity is fine, what bugs me is how people want the Bills and Sabres to represent that. The fanbase can't stand talented me first kind of players that usually put your team over the top. Look at when the Bills were trying to get Antonio Brown and how a lot of Bills fans don't want a "DIVA" like that on my team. The older Bills fanbase needs to live in the now and stop trying to keep things like they were in the past.
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9 minutes ago, teef said:
i'm all about the beer drinking too hooks, but i have no idea why some people are so specific in regards to what's ok and not ok. not to mention he excludes it to the specific region of wny. i have a feeling people all over the country drink light beer. i especially don't get the hang up with genny cream ale. i guarantee i could stop at 20 tailgates, and i'd be shocked if a single one had cream ale. i honestly think i'm more likely to find cocaine at various tailgates than cream ale.
It may that all over the country they drink light beer. As far as Blue goes I see it advertised more in WNY then a lot of other states that I have been too. When I go to Sabres games its one of the ones that's always on tap. I have gone to other stadiums and its not as easy to find on tap. They may not have Genny Cream but I am sure there is Genny of some kind there.
As far as all I post about is beer. Its not true. I just enjoy a good beer, even at Bills or Sabres games. Give me Saranac or Big Ditch over Blue light. I prefer something that doesn't taste like tap water. I don't need a beer that goes down in 10 mins and be hammered by the time the game starts.
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I have always wondered why Buffalo loves the Blue Collar identity and their love of beers like Blue and Genny? There is far better beers out there then either of them. Give me Ellicottville or Saranac over either.
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19 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:
Don't be salty. I'm taking it easy on you, little buddy.
I'm not salty. I am just wondering why WNY loves the Blue Collar Identity and their Blue Genny Cream, when their is better beer out there
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4 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:
All edge, no point.
Chastises people for drinking commercial beers by citing commercial beers himself. If you're gonna be a beer hipster, try doing it right.
^this guy ?. Then give me Ellicottville beer over any of those.
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25 minutes ago, Limeaid said:
Do you know who is willing to pay the most? Opposing fans are. They are not usually interesting in tailgating experience so a downtown stadium would be win for them and scalpers.There is nothing wrong with that. When I go to Sabres games I hit up one of the bars for some food and a couple of drinks then head to the game.
J. Palmer on Allen ‘blue collar, work ethic, farmer’
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Its not a great sign but you're forgetting that you can't say anything negative about the franchise QB. You can't take away the fans hope going into the season.?
You guys have to get over the Blue collar lunch pail garbage. Its not the Rockpile days anymore. I realize a lot of you are fans from those days but teams now aren't built that way anymore. Its 2019 not 1960.