Jrb1979
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10 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:
First, people want a rebuild so we can get off the 7-9 treadmill. Then, they B word when they draft a QB and go through a mere half season of ugly. Then, they completely cast aside that the team actually broke the drought and made the playoffs last year. Fan base? Really?
Go Bills
A lot of you don't get it. Its not that they are losing that is upset them. Its the kind of football that is being played and not being competitive in games is another. In an era where offense is easy to come by and going that many games without a TD is embarrassing. Thats what a lot of fans are upset with.
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Just now, The Real Buffalo Joe said:
There's a few different factors, but this is one of them. Being a hockey fan in the south, this is the conclusion I've come to.
People down here didn't grow up where ice hockey could be played frequently. So the organic growth that started about 100+ years ago up north, never happened. Every small town in WNY has an ice rink. I live in the greater Houston area. Much larger population, I know of three ice rinks around. I've personally never actually played ice hockey, but I've played street hockey, and went to watch my cousin play ice hockey, so I grew up around the game. Also grew up with hockey video games. Not to mention obviously, watching Sabres games.
The rules of the game are simple enough. The only complexities while watching a game with someone who didn't grow up around it, are explaining offsides, icing, powerplays etc. But the idea of shoot the puck into the net, is simple enough to grasp. But because of how fast paced it is, it's not just that you have to be paying attention. You have to have your eyes trained.
Know who they can pass it to, know when it is and isn't an opportune time to shoot. Just being able to follow the puck is a "skill" within itself. The problem with it is, that's not something you can really teach someone. It's just something that comes with watching the game and going with past experiences. So it can get overwhelming and turn people off to the game unless they're patient enough.
I have heard from quite a few people that have taken a person to their first game that they love it.
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Just now, Lurker said:
For kids with ADHD maybe...
Its better then watching a game of field position and a lot of punts.
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1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:
that is where I am at....but knowing our luck our schedule gets easier and we start winning games
I don't see then winning many more games when they can't score more then 9 points
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I have often wondered why hockey and the NHL is not more popular in the U.S. The more I think about the more I think it has to do with the fast pace of hockey. The other 3 top major sports in the U.S. are all slow paced. You can turn away from the action and not miss a thing. Hockey you have to be engaged into the game the whole time.
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1 minute ago, The_Dude said:
Yeah, just like the last 20 years of the most pathetic football ever.
I live out of state. I'm a Georgian now. We don't have hockey here. The only reason I know anything about the sabres is because of WGR.
Its a shame more football fans aren't hockey fans. Its one of the best sports in the world. Very fast paced sport.
I wonder if its cause its too fast paced for most casual sports fans. There is no break in the action. Football is very slow paced. You have time to take in the last play.
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Just now, oldmanfan said:
You're right. Hate to see it happen though.
I love it. If you have a good offense your team is never out of a game. The Rams Saints game was one of the best games played in a long time.
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17 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
Again, it is amusing how many folks ignore Beane saying before the draft last year that you can't win in the league without a QB. Or how they cherry pick a comment from McD this week about seeing some positives and somehow ignore th e statements about how your QB has to be consistently good to win. They know they need more offense, they know they need better QB play.
As an old timer I recognize that. But yes, I do love smash mouth football and good defense and am sad the game is starting to turn into the collegiate circus like football. I would say the end of the Tennessee game, even though a defensive game, was pretty damn exciting.
Those type of games are few and far between. Smash mouth football and hitting guys coming across the middle are coming to an end. Its either accept the new NFL or walk away from it.
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3 hours ago, simpleman said:
Is this sarcasm? Turnaround? From a rock bottom low the Pegula's set.
Last year I discussed the Pegula's failures. I compared the Sabres record before they acquired the team and then after. Utter failure. And this year we are only 16 games in and about 50/50 on wins. In the bottom half of the Division. This year it is way too early to see how the team will finish, or call it a turnaround. Getting better from a bar you yourself so low it is set located underground is not a turnaround.
The Pegula's have made horrible coaching / GM choices for both the Sabres and the Bills.
And Pegula made his fortune by a lucky break in land / resource speculation. If it had not been for a new technology called fraking being advanced after he bought the speculation contracts, he would not be considered a successful businessman today. He did not gain success from managing a business or manufacturing a product. The Pegula's have definitely not shown an aptitude in their hiring decisions. Although in the Rich Mans owner's club called the NFL, once you are in, it is hard to not be successful. No matter your business savvy or ineptitude.
Wow most Bills fans don't even pay attention to the Sabres. All you look at is their record. Right now they are in a playoff spot and look to be turning it around. They are a much better team this season and are fun to watch unlike the Bills.
1 hour ago, The_Dude said:....it was fun. It was nice the drought was broken. But that was a fluke. And this season is more of an illustration of what McD and Beane really are. They have a backwards, 1980s way of thinking. Enjoy the crappy football. You deserve it.
They will enjoy it. For some reason a lot of the old timers on this board love that kind of football.
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Just now, ColoradoBills said:
That is why the check will have to be a little bigger with a little more guaranteed money.
It's just what they will have to do.
Then your back to the mess they just cleaned up.
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Just now, Shaw66 said:
You know, I hate to sound like I'm entitled, because I'm not, but that's how I felt.
You know what I wanted to have happen? I wanted Beane to tell McDermott that Beane would handle the post-game press conference. I wanted to Beane to stand up there and tell us HE was embarrassed and HE is going to do something about it. Don't fire McDermott, but just by being there, it would send a message to McDermott. The message is "if you can't change this, I will get someone who can." That's what the fans deserve to hear.
You won't hear that cause Beane is GM in name only. I really believe McDermott is the guy who is doing the majority of building of this team.
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7 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:
They all drafted bad quarterbacks.
Maybe but those teams aren't on pace to be the worst offense in a long time. It may be lack of talent in the Bills but other teams manage to scheme recievers open.
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1 minute ago, BigBuff423 said:
I think they're in these decisions together, but personally I don't look at almost anything this year except for Defense, specifically their selected players, and Allen. Everything on Offense is otherwise almost near impossible to evaluate until next year when Beane and McD can bring in quality FAs and Draft more players that fit their design. FWIW, their Draft picks are doing their part....it's mostly the other players held over from Whaley and the guys they basically just had no choice but to bring in, ala Newhouse, Bodine, etc.
The problem is there is no great options at WR in FA this year. Golden Tate is about the only one and I doubt he leaves the Eagles.
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19 minutes ago, Lurker said:
It is backward. But that doesn't make it wrong.
I flipped to the New Orleans-Rams game after the Bills loss. I got bored by the end of the first quarter with both teams moving up and down the field at will, like an NBA game with no defense.
I'm not interested in that type of football and the NFL has a problem on it's hands if that's what the future looks like, IMO...
Thats the way the league is going. Why is it that Bills fans from the Rockpile days yearn for smash mouth pound the rock football. Sorry but you don't win many games that way now.
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Its hard to relax when there is 4 teams that have more cap space then the Bills next season and when McCoach believes that Peterman is a starting QB in this league still. The fact this regime can't see that Peterman can't play in this league and shouldn't be on this team tells me all I need to know about their eye for talent on offense.
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1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said:
Allen was the biggest gunslinger and risk taker in college football. Your theory couldn’t be more abundantly off the mark.
And this is where the “McDermott is too conservative for 2018!” argument goes off the rails. Tyrod is a conservative coach’s dream: never attempts a throw that may result in a turnover.
If McDermott were as backwards and conservative as many here claim, he would have NEVER let Tyrod go.
If what you say is true then they should have let Allen play that way when he started. Instead they went to a conservative game plan. His best game was against the Vikings where he was alowed to sling it all over the field. When he does come back let him sling it all over the field and see what he can do. My fear is they will continue with the conservative pound the rock game plan.
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1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said:
There won’t be any coaching changes after this season so save your breaths.
The Franchise hasn’t even played these last three games so it’s hilarious to me how angry so many are. These games are meaningless at this point.
Once we saw McCarron look worse than Peterman in the preseason and then traded, we should have all seen the writing on the wall: the offense was going to be atrocious.
The only hope this team had of contending for a playoff spot in 2018 was for McCarron (or Peterman) to at least be as good as Taylor was last season. Maybe Beane gave up on McCarron too early and should’ve given him two or three starts at least before getting rid of him. Then again, they never would’ve received a 5th round pick at that point. And would McCarron suddenly have become good if given a start or two? I doubt it.
No one expected the O to be this historically awful but what difference does it make? Bad is bad. You can cry all you want about how terrible the offense is but in the end, this is all about Josh Allen. He’s all that matters.
Allen will come back after the bye and get some experience in a terrible offense. Beane will upgrade the offensive personnel during the off-season and we will see if Allen improves. If he doesn’t then McDermott and Beane will both be on a pretty hot seat.
If we reach the end of the 2020 season and Allen stinks, then kiss these guys goodbye.
As for right now, anyone calling for a GM or coaching change needs a grip on reality.
Sorry you lost me at The Franchise. Right now he is Tyrod 2.0 with better upside.
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18 minutes ago, PaulieYayo said:
Murph is a GIANT homer. He's never ready to "write them off" or "give up on the season" and makes it seem like we are all uneducated fans for doing so. He would have positive things to say about this team even if they all lit him on fire
I had the game on the radio at work yesterday and when the Bills scored their TD he was acting like they had won the super bowl.
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2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
One can make that argument I think. They certainly have to address the offense in a big way this off season. If they don't they'll deserve whatever criticism comes at them.
It scares me when the coach comes out and says that he believes you win in Buffalo by playing field position and pounding the rock. IMO I believe they drafted Allen cause he is a mobile QB like Tyrod but a higher ceiling. They want a QB that doesn't take chances and doesn't turn the ball over like Tyrod. You need explosive offense to win. If Allen comes back they should be running an offense like that. The season is lost anyways, atleast see if Allen can make those kind of throws.
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Just now, ngbills said:
Really? They are the joke of the NHL. The worst record the past 7 seasons. Yes early in the season they are barely holding onto a playoff spot that could end one of the longest NHL droughts ever.
And the Bills are that much better. It seems Bills fans just look at the Sabres record and don't even watch then play. At least the Sabres look to be turning it around and are exciting to watch.
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4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
The yelling of fans since the day Kelly retired:
We will never go anywhere until this franchise steps up and goes to get their franchise guy!!!!
The yelling of fans since the day Josh Allen was drafted (pick one of 2):
Oh, no , not THAT guy!!!!!!!
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We should never have drafted a QB until we had the pieces to put around him!!!!!!!!
Its more like if you are going to draft your QB at least give him some help. Instead McDermott believed they would be able to pound the rock and have Allen be a game manager. IMO they have gone about building this team backwards. This league is all about explosive offense with enough defense to make a couple of stops. Instead of spending their money on defense they should have helped Allen and the offense.
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Just now, John from Riverside said:
I admit I dont follow hockey as much as football
It seems a lot of the Bills fans don't follow hockey. Hockey is fast and entertaining sport. No down time between plays.
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25 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
I see.....
If you did not live in the area and were spouting crap about not needing the team.....I would have a different message for you.
As it is.....you are definately in the minority of your thinking if you live in the area.....Pegula could have easily moved the team and frankly the NFL seemed to be encouraging it at the time. This would not have bothered you but it DEF would have bother the ones that outnumber you.
Every Bills fan seems to dismiss the other Pro Team in town. The Sabres are a young and exciting team on their way up.
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4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
That one statement right there indicates why no one here should take your opinions seriously. Allen doesn't get hurt we look a lot better.
Better the Peterman I will give you that but you still have to throw the ball in this league and averaging less the 100 yrds a game through the air isn't going to win you many.
Hockey is fast paced for the casual sports fan
in Off the Wall Archives
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How anyone gets board watching hockey is beyond me. Watching basketball and going up and down the court over and over is boring to me.