[Tyrod is a franchise QB]

3 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

You keep talking about Goff.  You realize he has a worse completion %, more ints, and 2 more tds so far this season?  This is with a great offensive mind for a hc, much better weapons, and the easiest schedule in the league to date.  5 of his 8 games he has completed less than 60% of his passes.  You sure this is the guy you want to trumpet as a top tier qb?

 

Since Rush won't give me his list, here are qbs Tyrod is playing better than this season:  Derek Carr (yeah I said it), Big Ben (yeah I said it again - look it up same tds, 7 more ints, worse completion %, worse qb rating), Philip Rivers, Jameis Winston, Andy Dalton, Eli Manning, Marcus Mariota, Carson Palmer, Cam Newton, and Joe Flacco.  That is just guys that people trumpet as "franchise guys."  If you want to argue those guys please use actual information instead of your eye test.

First I will say most of those QBs throw the ball a lot more than Tyrod so QB rating is up for debate. He has played better then those QBs you listed but it doesn't make him better then average. Why do so many of you defend Tyrod so much? He has his good games and his bad games but don't any of you want a QB who consistently puts up good numbers and points game after game.

[Tyrod is a franchise QB]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

...and at the same time how many have paid attention to Jameis, Eli and Mariota this year? Tyrod has been better than all of them. It’s a 2 way street. 

Yes he has been better than all of them but that still doesn't make him a top QB in this league. I am not saying to get rid of him but fans should want better.

[Tyrod is a franchise QB]

21 minutes ago, xRUSHx said:

Lol, I thought it was very funny considering. 

 

Sorry man I just can not put him as overwhelming higher then anyone he is what he is not good enough. Not a fan of Thad but I still think Thad could have got us the same wins/stats with the way our kicker/ D played all season.

Very good post man but he is not what the Bills need, they need more. What worries me is the build around Tyrod while pretending he is a franchise worthy QB. The title of this thread is the exact same worry I had when the Bills gave Fitz that big raise, it is the same fail all over again

The problem is that the Bills haven't had a great QB in a long time, that a lot of fans think an average QB is good enough. I wonder if many Bills fans even saw some of what Wentz, Goff and Brees did yesterday. Cause that is what top QBs bring to a team.

[Tyrod is a franchise QB]

Taylor is an average QB at best. For the type of offense the Bills run it works. If your team has a conservative offense like the Bills do, all you need is a QB like Taylor. After watching a lot of the games yesterday, Taylor is no where near as good as lot of the QB's that won yesterday. I look at QBs like Wentz, Goff, Brees, Carr, Cousins and Wilson and realize Taylor is not in the same league.  What amazes me the most is how many of you would rather build around Taylor then draft a QB in the first round. Building around a QB is great when you have a really good one.

[This type of stuff needs to end - Fan on fire]

This is why a lot of Bills fans get looked down on. The worst part of this whole thing is how many of you excuse it and make little jokes of it. It happening for many years isn't an excuse for it to continue. Seeing stuff like this happen as often as it does, really makes me think a stadium downtown with smaller tailgating on public lots is the only would get rid of a lot of this.

And rules, like tables, were made to be broken

Laugh it up chuckles. Comments like that and all the others that just laugh it off as its part of the game day experience, is why a lot of people think Bills fans are drunken fools.

[This type of stuff needs to end - Fan on fire]

At some point there will be a serious injury from things like this during tailgating and that is when tailgating as you know it will change. If what everyone is saying is that this stuff happens in private lots, then the first thing that should be done is for the private lots to be shut down. If the team gets a new stadium downtown it will change tailgating as we know it and it might be for the better. Tailgating should be about hanging out with some friends before the game and have a beer or two to get pumped up for the game. It shouldn't be about being drunk and doing stupid stunts. The worst part of this is how many of you in this thread just excuse it as its just part of tailgating.