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Avisan

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  1. 1 minute ago, John in Jax said:

    That should have been PI for sure. And so it goes with the refs favoring NE...

    For what?

     

    Jackson played the ball, contacted the player somewhat but he got a thorough deflection well before the ball got to the receiver, it would have been a super tricky tack call if they'd thrown the flag.  Any other team we'd have been moaning about ref overinvolvement.

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  2. On 12/27/2018 at 9:44 PM, BillyWhiteShows said:

     

    The logic here is flawed, because you imply that EJ has the potential to be a great QB.  Many draft analysts would disagree with that point.  Many had EJ at a 3rd or 4th round talent level.  

     

    My take is that he never was a 1st round pick to begin with.  It was a total over-reach by the Bills and a really terrible idea.  He never had the potential or talent to be a great QB in the first place, so your take about veteran QB’s and coaching is moot. 

    This isn't particularly correct, EJ would have gone at the end of the first or beginning of the second had we not taken him at 16.  It was a weak year for QBs so everyone in the draft got bumped up.  It wasn't a reach the year we picked him, and we traded down to get additional picks before doing so.

     

    EJ is probably the best QB from that draft class by a hair, so really you can't knock the pick too much.

  3. 7 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

    I get the optics being different, but results are the only thing that matters.

     

    Yes, Allen has a much stronger arm, but he has not demonstrated the ability to efficiently matriculate the ball down the field. With improvements at WR, more experience, and a better line, there's certainly reason to believe that will come. But at this point, the only thing he's done exceptionally well is run, Jackson is actually a better passer RIGHT NOW.

     

    Sometimes as Bills fans, we get a little carried away in our assessments as if only our players are going to improve and everyone else will be "figured out."

    Might want to look up the definition of matriculate my dude

  4. With respect to AP in particular, he was absolutely in the wrong the way he treated his son.  What that kid went through was awful.

     

    AP had pretty recently experienced trauma (baby momma's BF beat APs son to death) about a year prior and based on texts he sent he was using the beating to lash out at her/make her feel hurt.  Really messed up, and the kid absolutely doesn't deserve it, but it's a pretty common/normal response for people to exhibit, particularly if they didn't have the best parental role models in their own life.  It's likely AP is just reflecting his own childhood experiences in his parenting style, for better or (most definitely) worse.

     

    He isn't a monster.  He's probably a pretty awful parent that thinks he's doing the right thing.  I hope his kid turns out okay, because the kid's got an uphill battle ahead of him.

  5. 1 hour ago, eball said:

    Isn’t there boatloads of evidence out there that “physically” disciplining children has no beneficial effect whatsoever?

    No, but there is boatloads of evidence that non-physical discipline has better outcomes in a variety of categories

     

    On the flip side there isn't a whole lot of research into any downsides of avoiding physical discipline, since that angle hasn't been much of a target of study

     

    Given nature's disciplinary response across mammals usually involves nips/swats/etc., and despite our cognition we're mostly just animals, I would be surprised if there were zero positive benefit.  It likely would have weeded itself out if physical feedback were only harmful.  Beyond that, kids under a certain age literally cannot be reasoned with because they lack the necessary cognitive development for it.

     

    If physical discipline is your go-to/something you enjoy, however, you're almost definitely just messing up your kids

  6. 2 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

    And there it is.

    This stuff is just rampant lately

     

    And of course if you ever call it out you're the REAL bad guy

     

    But seriously somebody please point me to where someone ever said, say, Andy Dalton or Andrew Luck are "smart when they want to be" or "can't truly read defenses" when they occasionally struggle or make boneheaded plays

     

    The common denominator is pretty glaring

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  7. 14 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

     

     

    I wouldn't take a statement that is opinion and not very thoughtful opinion personally at all. Why would I take offense at something that I think is mostly wrong?

    Dude, just take a break.  If you are straight-up unable to post without being condescending, stop posting.

  8. 7 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

    If you can’t or don’t want to have any pride in suiting up for the Buffalo Bills, then find the next Uber out to the airport and take your sad sack attitude with you—and yes, I’m looking at you LeSean. Sitting there doing an even better job of going invisible/evasive on the bench than on the field, I couldn’t help but feel like his foot on the helmet was an incredibly disrespectful signal—kind of like putting them on top of the dinner table, or is it just me? We deserve better, this franchise for whom many players in the past have left it all on the field for win or lose, deserves better, and least of all whatever class you may have left deserves better. C’mon man! 

    ... Seriously? 

  9. 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

     

     

    New QB's don't learn much from the sidelines.  They are only ever there if there is already an entrenched starter on the roster.

    This is ridiculous, being on the sideline isn't the same as being on the field but you can learn plenty.  Learning in part by watching is completely standard for literally everything else in life, but somehow that doesn't apply to NFL quarterbacking?

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  10. 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

     

    To be fair the O-line did have Eric Wood and Andy Levitre two very good interior players they also had Urbik who was pretty good for a hot minute. Stevie only faded because he got hurt the last year he was here even David Nelson was playing well until he got hurt. I think the O-line was a bit better although the skill positions were mostly comparable. The one major difference in the 2011 offense to now is the QB play. Fitz got off to a super hot start and even subpar Fitz is an upgrade over what the team has now (A super raw rookie and outright garbage.) 

     

    That being said I am not sure how bad the scheme is vs. how bad the QB play and supporting talent it honestly. I would venture to say it is all bad.

    The O-line was probably about 60% complete with Fitz, and he marked a lot of its deficiencies via the speed with which he got rid of the ball.  Even during FJ's monster season he was only averaging like 1.5 yards before contact and had a stupid high YAC average.  Dude was unstoppable before he got hurt that season, that season's implosion was extra tough to watch.

     

    Nelson's big thing was his sure hands, he got a case of the dropsies even before the injury and the injury mostly just cemented things.  The Goon Squad years were certainly entertaining, though, I'd take that Chan Gailey offense in a heartbeat over the current iteration.  Here's to hoping Josh Allen manages to put it together somehow.

  11. 57 minutes ago, Maybe Someday said:

     

    That would be me...Thurman's been doing it for me so I didn't feel the need to lol.  He and I are more on the same page regarding the topic at hand so I figured I'd let him take the reigns...especially after it seemed to go from a discussion to an argument.  We all have differences in opinion but arguing with someone on a chat board isn't my style.  I think it's time for us all to just agree to disagree.  You and many others obviously don't like McD or Beane and want them gone less than halfway into year #2.  That's your right to feel that way.  I see that as being counterproductive and would be utterly shocked if it actually happened.  I think there's a better chance of me winning the Mega Millions tonight than McD or Beane getting fired this year. 

     

    My final thoughts on the subject...

     

    We've had regime after regime think that they could come in, add a few pieces and win now but it's never worked.  I don't recall hearing any of those prior regimes speak of building an organization (not just the team) from the foundation up with the goal of building a perennial winner.  That is what makes McBeane different to me.  They didn't come in saying they could win now, they said the opposite.  They set the expectation that they wanted to build the franchise into one that truly is in the playoff discussion year after year...by more than just a few talking heads here and there on TV.  Some like to point out how it's because we've only hired bad coaches.  My question to them is what caliber of coach do you think we'll be able to hire if our 3rd straight coach only lasts 2 years?  That would only add to the perception that I believe exists around the league that we're an unstable, joke of a franchise.  IMO, we'd have no shot to get the next offensive mastermind unless they absolutely love Allen more than any other QB on a team with a HC opening, which is doubtful.  Even if we do, it's not like we'll suddenly be good  I also don't understand how so many can already conclude with such certainty that McBeane cannot build an offense just because it hasn't happened yet. 

     

    So I'm not having patience just to have patience like many of us have done in the past.  I'm having patience because I like that we finally have a regime that is not doing the same old thing as all the others have in the past.  I think they deserve a chance to continue moving forward based on the 9 wins last year and what appears to be 2 solid drafts.  This season sucks so far but I expected it to from the start, maybe not quite to this degree but we're playing so many young players that are still learning that it's not a total shock to me.  I'm more worried about the young guys getting experience and developing than I am about wins this year.  If we see no changes by this time next year, then I'll be on board with you, I'm just not there yet. 

     

    Cheers Avi!!

    Cheers bud, thanks for chiming in.

     

    I think Marrone was the best HC we've had in a while.  I think Hackett was still taking his lumps, and Saint Doug is a colossal a-hole on a personal level, but he was a really solid overall coach and I think his Jags performance bears that out.  Not great, but solid.  I wish he'd stuck around.

     

    Rex was a tire fire, and I think the Ryan Bros are the perfect example of how a league can pass someone by.  Neither one of them are particularly detail-oriented, and you can't get away with that in the modern NFL.  Losing Schwartz in the process was some unfortunate salt in the wound.  The struggle to find a HC that can manage both sides of the ball has been maddening.

     

    While I certainly don't think the rebuild was necessary for the reasons I've outlined, the idea of a unified HC and FO forming a complete team in their image is certainly appealing due to our 21st century futility. I'm skeptical of this rebuild in part due to the inexperience of its executors and mainly because of the massive talent disparity between the old crew and the new crew on offense.  We need two or three new starting lineman, a completely new WR corps (maybe Zay can continue to find a role?), a new TE, and our QB is a major question mark.  It's a rough look moving forward, and in the time it takes to rebuild it we'll likely lose K. Williams, J. Hughes, and a few other pieces.  I'm just really disappointed, because even if everything goes perfect we're still 2+ seasons off from being competitive.  Even moves like ditching Kerley bug me because he's forged a successful career on being unimpressive but reliable.  I really hope you're right and they pull this off, and for now we'll just have to wait and see.

     

    TL;DR While I like the idea of a minor rebuild, the execution concerns me.

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