Avisan
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5 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:
And most will say Taylor put that in the wrong spot. And without a gift, Defensive TD in Atlanta and a whacked call in the Denver game and 3 TO's against TB and 4 against the Raiders those all could be losses.
Cant play the if game in the NFL, dude has been the starter for 2 1/2 years, he is what he is, a .500 QB that wins if everything around goes perfect.
And perfect means get a lead and win TO battle. I really don't think I need to bring up his record when down by 4 at ANY TIME in game do I?
Which is funny, because Donald Jones and other ex-players have said that it was a good read and throw by Taylor and that the play was messed up by Jones.
But I'm sure a bunch of bitter keyboard warriors know better.
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14 minutes ago, dneveu said:
Serious playoff push? We had like the easiest schedule in the league last year and won 7 games. We had like no cap room because of this so called playoff roster. People wanted to franchise Gilmore this year, and Watkins because apparently cap space grows on trees.
Glenn and dareus are two of the worst contracts in the league. For what they are paid they should be approaching all-pro status.
All im saying is why keep a proven loser together? Blow it up, get a qb, and get the right players to build around. The core here was expensive and vastly overrated.
This is sorely revisionist. This team had a top offense and good defensive personnel being held back by bad coaching. A lot of the same guys that thrived under Schwartz were struggling under Rex. We KNOW the talent was there.
Do you remember how we would have had Watkins for pretty cheap if we'd just picked up his 5th-year option? Because I do.
Our cap space was limited, but fine. Other teams manage with far worse situations than ours without gutting all of the young talent on their roster. Glenn's contract is fine, too-- left tackles are expensive to keep. Just the nature of the business. When he's been in good schemes, he's been a monster in the run game and an above-average pass-blocker. We've been dramatically more successful running to the left than anywhere else since we've drafted him. Dareus was absolutely overpaid, but still an effective player with elite potential. It is the coaching staff's job to get those players to turn potential into production. Jacksonville traded for Dareus and immediately improved in the run defense game by 3 yards per attempt. That obviously isn't ALL Dareus, but he's a big part of that.
We didn't have a proven loser. We had a talented roster that everybody thought was a good coach away from the playoffs. Pretending otherwise now that The Process is imploding is just disingenuous.
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1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said:
And tell me Taylor was not a huge part of the losses at Carolina, Cinci, NY and the Saints. Not all his fault, and certainly the D just as at fault the last two, but the Cinci and Carolina performances out of him were absolutely atrocious.
Carolina is 7-3, has one of the best defenses in the league, and Taylor threw a game-winner that Jones flubbed on. Despite the ugliness of the game, that could have easily been a win.
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17 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:
Im just curious if you could list out the 10-11 Qbs who are better than him, Im curious who you leave off the list.
Sure. Question marks after the guys who look solid but could fall off a cliff a la Nick Foles (see Carr and Prescott for what can happen when your supporting cast weakens).
Brady
Brees
Rodgers
Ryan
Cousins
Roethlisberger
Smith
Wilson
Luck (probably?)
Wentz(?)
Goff(?)
After that it's a whole bunch of guys vying for the 12-18 spots, among whom I think Taylor has done the most with the least. Really not sure who else you can argue definitely belongs ahead of him.
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15 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:
Taylor is not a top 10-12 QB in this league all of the sudden because Peterman was bad.
Of course not. He's been a top 10-12 QB in this league the whole time. He has a crap O-line and a questionable cast of receiving targets in a terrible scheme. Many QBs look like a dumpster fire in those circumstances. Tyrod has looked AVERAGE despite dealing with those circumstances.
There are things he doesn't do very well, which is why he'll never be a top 5 or top 8 guy. But he's plenty good enough to win with.
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2 hours ago, jaclynrea21 said:
yeah then the next coach comes in and it's three years after that making it 23 years of crap football.I wish Trump bought the team
Look, I'm going to make a statement here that has nothing to do with politics, despite its unfortunate tangential relationship to the current state of US affairs:
Trump is a moron.
He's always been a moron.
He will never not be a moron.
He's been understood to be a moron for decades. DECADES. He drove an entire football league into the ground. He's been lampooned and satirized as an icon of corrupt, selfish idiocy since at least as far back as the 80s. He bizarrely tried to claim credit for the Pegulas buying the Bills when that whole thing was going down. He's that kind of moron.
Whatever misgivings you might have about the Pegulas, the current situation is much, much better than it could have been.
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5 hours ago, oldmanfan said:
Nothing would make me reconsider.
Some folks here need to grow a pair. I remember years like from 1969-712. Or say 83-85. Years when you knew the team had little chance of winning. I've been a fan since opening day 1960. Today was depressing, as was last week. But that doesn't mean you should bail out.
After this season there will be grown men and women who have not had a Bills playoff appearance occur in their lifetimes, and the Bills are no closer to achieving a playoff appearance than they have been in at least 15 of those seasons.
"Growing a pair" is insufficient.
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5 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:
Sadly, I think you are right...
At this point, I would stay with Beane and McDemott - they inherited a mess and at least they seem to have some vision for what they want in the future. They want a TEAM that is built first on competitiveness and effort and team-first attitude. That is similar to what Bill Bellichek has built in NE. Certainly, Bellicheck has benefitted by having HOFer Brady, but still the rest of their team embodies the ideals that McDermott is after...
They inherited a talented roster that was a good coach and defensive coordinator away from a serious playoff push.
They proceeded to gut the roster and ruin last year's 7th-best offense while making no improvements whatsoever on defense.
The excuses need to end.
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6 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:
The difference is that Dak has actually shown he can be a good QB in this league. And it's not like the last 2 opponents of theirs were some garbage teams either. Dak gets the benefit of having proven some stuff in the league already to have a few bad starts
SO HAS TYROD
This is seriously insanity
Our offense was great last year. Tyrod is probably in the #10-#12 range of QBs, and that is PLENTY good enough to win with. He'll never be a Brady. Few QBs are.
The best part about committing to a QB of the caliber of Tyrod Taylor is that you have free reign to take flyers on guys until you hit on one that you think can be a top 5 guy, and there's simultaneously no pressure to play the new prospect but also no big shock or surprise when you finally part ways with the vet.
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maybe they were pulling over black drivers who were targeted or not. To me there is absolutely nothing wrong with profiling and we need to do it more. This is not an argument to your post but it is a matter of fact that profiling works wonders.
Wait, what?
So you're cool with them harrassing more minorities, even though it is demonstrably not yielding results, and you want them to do MORE of it?
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Anybody pretending that "Inmates running the prison" is a common phrase (hint: it's "asylum") and that the usage of prison had nothing to do with the players being black needs to do some serious introspection about why they so desperately need to deny the existence of racism in American society
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what happens if you look into it and find it to be bull ****?
Then you need to clean off the lenses you're looking with.
You can disagree with methods, you can disagree with proposed solutions, but if you look into what their concerns are and come away with the impression that there are no problems with the treatment of minorities, and particularly of black people in the US then you are objectively wrong. That is not a matter of belief. That is not a matter of interpretation. It's a shameful fact of American identity that we need to own up to and resolve.
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pretty much all of them spend more money and time in the community than most of us.
Ding ding ding
But I'm sure they're just whiny, entitled primadonnas and not grown men with beliefs and life experiences and passions. How dare they do anything but bleed for our entertainment.
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I'm sort of right there with you, in that going forward I will not spend one thin dime on anything that will put $$$ into the NFL coffers, but I might tune in to a game every now & then just for some gratuitous violence. Lol
The thing I really don't get is that all these overpaid prima-donnas taking knees, or staying in the locker rooms, or ignoring the anthem.....accomplishes exactly what? I'll tell you what....exactly NOTHING.
UNLESS ALL of these morons....and I'm including ALL pro sports athletes who have jumped on the "I hate Trump/America is Racist" bandwagon........"protesting" the national anthem are out in their respective communities, donating money, and getting actively involved, then they're just hypocritical sheeple. PS - I can guarantee you that not ALL of them are out there doing what I just said.
How about this? Any/All of these athletes disrespecting the flag/anthem voluntarily reduce their salary to $100,000, and anything above that they are owed by their owner, they donate to "good causes" in their communities like inner-city youth centers, schools, programs, etc? Sort of a "Put your money where your mouth is situation!" Ha ha...Yeah, I'm dreaming and it'll never happen. But it sure would put MILLIONS of dollars toward getting inner-city "oppressed" minorities out of a dark hole, huh?
You do know that they do this, right? Maybe not all of them, but a not unsubstantial portion of them. Kaepernick in particular has been putting his time and money where his mouth is, which you might know if you actually respected people of color enough as human beings to look into why they feel the way they do.
Here you can admit that yes, it CAN get worse than Taylor
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Yes, a bunch of TSW experts said he put it in the wrong place. The rest is a non-sequitur. Of course Taylor doesn't make all the throws he should. If he did, he'd be a top 5 guy. He doesn't, so 10-12 is his ceiling.