Avisan
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6 minutes ago, BillsVet said:
P.S. Stevie Johnson has more 1,000 yard seasons (in a 16 game schedule) than Buffalo's entire receiving group heading into camp does in their careers.
Correct. Stevie Johnson did that as the number one target in the Gailey-Fitz offense. He did absolutely nothing in the NFL outside of that role. Thank you for helping demonstrate the point.
Stevie Johson averaged ~7.1 yards per target as a Bill. For reference, Diggs averaged ~8.3 despite his underwhelming back half of the year performance last season.
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4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Based on our defensive performance every single playoff run every single year. What team have you been watching? We'll probably need a top 1 offense to compete for a championship, honestly. Top 10 isn't acceptable. That's the bare minimum expectation with Allen.
Okay, so this sounds more like a complaint about the defense's postseason performances, which is valid. Plenty of Top 10 offenses have won a championship.
Incidentally, the Chiefs had an offense well outside the Top 10 despite a HoF TE and Reid running the show last season and still pulled it off. Frankly our offensive performance doesn't matter as much for postseason results as our defense, so I don't see why Top 3 vs. Top 10 matters that much. The offense has been good enough to get past the Chiefs in the postseason.
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4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
A championship?
Based on..?
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2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Top 10 isn't good enough, that's the issue.
Not good enough for what?
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1 hour ago, BillsVet said:
This thread has devolved into the ignorant and the aware. The quibblers and the rational. The head in the sand types and those with solid vision.
NFL Caliber? Talk about pure sophistry. What is that? How do you define "NFL-caliber"? Is that a guy on the PS to open the season? Does that player offer the same potential for "strong production numbers" as say, a guy who had 1,000 yards last year?
This is the mindset of surface-level of analysis that won't go deeper because doing so requires intellect, rational thought, and understanding for how the game is played across the league.
Next year, I can hear it now: Josh begins questioning the team's commitment to putting top-end receiving talent around him. And McBeane in unison say they already put "NFL-caliber" talent around him.
Oh, sorry. I'm not allowed to conclude anything before the season begins.
Yawn.
The Bills' wide receiver group consists of a productive WR3 from last year, multiple second-round picks, and proven spot contributors. It lacks a top end elite talent, which isn't ideal, but Shakir, Samuel, MVS, and Mack Hollins all belong on a professional football field. Claypool and Coleman are question marks for different reasons, but both have high-end physical traits and Claypool started his career with two solid seasons.
It's a middling group that will be solid if either Coleman or Claypool play close to their potential and straight-up good if they both do. I think it's likely that Claypool fizzles and Coleman has a ~500 yard season, so I'm expecting a Top 20 group at wideout with good TE and RB performances to complement it.
Y'all are acting like we're trotting out Stevie Johnson, Donald Jones, David Nelson, and Naaman Roosevelt as our top 4 again. It's absurd. Mack Hollins would have been a starter on that squad, not the 5th or 6th option.
Barring injury to Allen, the Bills are going to be a Top 10 overall offense, per usual, with a few rough games against good defenses. Best start prepping your very, very impressive intellect for that impending reality.
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25 minutes ago, BillsVet said:
We ain't comparing the drought years to this. Little more nuanced than that.
This is about the idea no one can have an opinion, using data or not, before Week 1. Different eras, same rhetoric.
I am aware of the nuance. The nuance is why I said what I said. Being able to assume good QB play and help from the other side of the ball reduces the heroics required from our WR unit and should lead to strong production numbers if our players have NFL-caliber talent, which they do.
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4 minutes ago, BillsVet said:
This is funny. You're essentially doing what a bunch of people did during the drought years of saying that, because they haven't played we can't do any sort of predictive analysis which might portend underwhelming results.
There is a significant difference between the drought years and now in terms of who is throwing the ball and the quality of the defensive unit to fall back on if needed.
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8 hours ago, Mikie2times said:
Daboll seemed to do a good job. The book is certainly still out with Dorsey and Brady. To say either of those guys is good or bad is a crap shoot. They have less years being an OC than Reid does as HC of KC and Allen's improvisation has been a huge % of our offense.
Genuine question-- what has Daboll shown as an offensive coordinator/offensive mind outside of his years working with Josh Allen? I have not seen anything compelling to suggest that Daboll was a particularly good offensive coordinator. Chan Gailey, for example, can hang his hat on getting medium-to-good production out of talent that was definitely bottom half, if not bottom third, of the league. Not the most prestigious of accomplishments, but he could put together functional systems that squeezed the most possible juice out of mediocre talents.
Open to having my mind changed. That said, I have never really understood the pining for Daboll or the small-but-vocal faction of fandom that would have preferred keeping him over McDermott. I just don't see it.
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2 hours ago, Mikie2times said:
So the choice is to gaslight yourself?
Is it gaslighting ourselves to think that the team we are a fan of, that has been inarguably a top 5 team in the NFL for three straight seasons, will probably continue to be very good? Why should we believe otherwise?
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10 minutes ago, FireChans said:
Then the concern about the talent decrease was overblown or even misplaced.
With your current concern about the talent, where do you expect the Bills' offensive outputs to rank?
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40 minutes ago, mrags said:
Not to mention. If the talent hasn’t been the issue, then it’s apparent that the coaching is. Can’t have it both ways.
This implies that the Bills have not been top offensive units the last several seasons. They have.
50 minutes ago, FireChans said:We haven’t played with the dearth of talent yet.
If our point total drops ~80 points this year, we’re all gonna know the reason why.
And if it doesn't drop?
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16 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:
What about the several 4th quarters Allen didn’t play? We lead the league for a while in point differential and it was by a wide margin. We had several games where we were up by 3-4 scores going into the 4th.Allen either didn’t play or just handed the ball off. This wasn’t one season’s worth, this was over multiple seasons.
But the point still remains….
All time great Andy Reid
All Time Great Patrick Mahomes
All Time Great Tyreek Hill
All Time Great Travis Kelce
Great QB in Allen
Terrible HC
Terrible OC’s
Terrible Offensive line
Terrible drafting
Only 1 good WR in Diggs
Somehow both of these units have similar production….hmmm
I honestly don't get it, Diggs and Davis were clearly no longer particularly crucial players to our offensive success by the end of last season. We have players that can fill that same role on the roster, that will likely have comparable per-target production. We had a very good offense last season. And somehow we're doomed???
The offense is going to be fine. The lack of top-end talent will I'm sure contribute to some frustration, but I would be genuinely shocked if we were not a top 5 offense this season.
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We had an effective offense last year, despite a brutal second half Diggs decline and a Davis being wholly unable to occupy the same page as Allen. Take some deep breaths, y'all. Our receiving corps will be fine.
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13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
The two teams were pretty much on par in 2019. Both finished 10-6. Bills were 1-4 in games vs playoff teams in the regular season. Houston were 2-3. They were a more experienced team and won the playoff game in overtime.
There was also bad luck involved-- Watson dead-to-rights on a sack but two Bills got there at the same time and it actually kept him upright is a moment that sticks out in my memory.
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3 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:
I saw people selling t shirts. Its just weird at this point
TBH the internet was probably a mistake
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1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said:
Is banging your head against the divisional round and losing not a problem?
I’d rather shoot for greatness and fail instead of settling for good enough.
Would you, though? Or would you be in here complaining about the new regime and wondering why the team can't just snap our fingers and win a Superbowl?
2 hours ago, Gregg said:They have been falling short. I won't count the playoff loss to Jacksonville because that Bills team wasn't very good. Everyone was just happy they made it and ended the playoff less streak. But blowing a 16-point lead at Houston. Getting blown out by the Chiefs in the AFCCG. Then we have 13 seconds which is the ultimate choke job. The Bengals dominating the Bills in OP was another disappointing and frustrating loss. Last year's Chiefs game. As I said it is fair to question if McDermott can get this team to a Super Bowl and even win one.
Sometimes the other team wins, welcome to sports. We win more than anyone that isn't the Chiefs.
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3 minutes ago, Gregg said:
The constantly falling short in the playoffs is a problem. The Eagles moved on from Reid and won a Super Bowl. So, teams do move on from good coaches. McDermott is a good coach. Nobody would argue that but is he the coach who can get the Bills to a championship. Given all the playoff failures highlighted by 13 seconds then it is fair to question if McDermott can bring a Super Bowl championship to Buffalo.
Have the Bills been "falling short"? How are we measuring that?
Did the Eagles win the SB six years later because they moved on from Reid? That seems like a stretch. Is that what we're hoping for? Fire McDermott so we can maybe win a Superbowl in 2030?
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16 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:
The first step to fixing a problem is admitting you have one…..
Is being a perennial contender a problem?
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Really enjoying the folks who would rather the Bills lose so they can be right about McDermott than continue to be a good team year in and year out with McDermott at the helm.
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3 hours ago, Mikie2times said:
He's not getting into X's and O's, mechanics, or overriding Brady with any frequency. He's not a QB coach and has no offensive experience.
What do you think he is doing with Allen to impact that number so much?
I think that it is much easier to post good QB performances when you split field time with a top-5 defense and play for a competent, well-run football organization. Compare and contrast with, say, Justin Herbert.
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31 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
It's not significant. What is significant is teams having a nearly identical regular season record as us with the QB play we had. Everybody wants to boast about our regular season championships and how we might lose that consistency if it weren't for McD. Our fan base is like a bunch of beaten dogs. McD gave us a treat for the first time in 20 years and and we didn't think we deserved more. Meanwhile the best window in this franchises history is going to pass us by as a result.
Are we going to pretend here that QBR has zero correlation with quality of team coaching?
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The constant expectation of a market reset by these dudes and their agents is going to cripple so many teams. Tua "should" get $25-30 mil per. Still multigenerational wealth and reflects that he needs substantial roster help to produce at a high level (and importantly leaves cap room for that help). But he's probably going to end up at $50 mil+.
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11 minutes ago, SWATeam said:
And Von and Jones rendered ineffective due to their injuries, along with our safeties
And also CB injuries (Douglas). We could barely field an NFL-caliber defense, it's a miracle they got the key stop that they did.
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33 minutes ago, Mango said:
"I am intentionally condescending, arrogant, and disrespectful to people"
I will take "People who are negative additions to every community anywhere for 1000, Alex"
For what it's worth, "I have spoken" is basically 1B to "This is the way"'s 1A.
As in, it's just kinda goofy and he's likely having a giggle while you are working yourself up over a Star Wars quote.
He didn't attack anybody on a personal level, just dropped a Mandolorian quote. I think you can probably ease off, here.
I'm really starting to love this WR room. We quietly got better
in The Stadium Wall
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I mean, Top 10 would probably cut it? I would definitely argue a dominant front 4 is more important to getting past KC than a great WR room. When you're not the dynasty, you have to get a little lucky/have the stars align to make it through.