Mikey152

You don't agree with what? He is the biggest and strongest. That's not an opinion. He is also one of the fastest and most athletic outside of Lamar Jackson. Also a fact. He scored the highest of the major QBs on the wonderlich test...And he clearly has the strongest arm. His accuracy isn't nearly as bad purported, either. So again, it's not hard to see why he is a top prospect. Jamarcus Russell was a lazy idiot. All they have in common is the arm. It's a terrible comp. So is EJ Manual. EJ has a GREAT completion percentage in college and a super wonky delivery. Everybody wants Baker Mayfield to be Russell Wilson, but he is nowhere near Wilson physically. And he isn't nearly as smart as Brees. Not to mention all the other predictability issues...he could easily be Troy Smith.

He's the biggest, strongest, smartest Quarterback in the draft. It's not that hard to figure out if you are willing to project these guys a little. Clearly these projection things factor college performance pretty highly...go figure the last two Heisman winners finish at the top.

No, lets base it on completion percentage...probably the most useless stat a QB can generate. And better yet, lets arbitrarily set a number like 60% as the cutoff then use confirmation bias to establish it as the end-all-be-all of success. Oh, and lets correlate it to accuracy even though it is almost totally independent.

So, because you say it I'm just supposed to take it at face value? Did you see Wilson at this year's skill competition? Accurate my ass.

Do you think Cam is an accurate passer, though? Because he's not. At all. Super streaky. But he has a great arm and makes plays lots of other guys can't make.

That's kind of my point...it's lazy journalism based mostly on numbers, then gets repeated in "scouting reports" and on message boards. When you actually watch him throw a football in games and in shorts, it's clear he is talented. Maybe he isn't Drew Brees accurate, but he's not Blake Bortles bad, either.

4 guys...huge sample size. and we already talked about EJ. Not to mention the fact that the statement "huge arm" is complete bull ****. I could name you 50 quarterbacks who are 6'2" and "Accurate" with insane college numbers that flopped. And Josh Freeman made a pro bowl. He was a good quarterback in the NFL at one point and considered a future star before it all came crashing down for whatever reason. Not exactly a great comp.

Elway had a career completion percentage of 56.9 and was NEVER considered "pinpoint" accurate, ever...Neither was Favre. Both are all-time greats. Russell Wilson is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, and I don't think anyone would say accuracy is he best trait. But sure, lets revise history to support your narrative. Do you know who IS "accurate"? Nathan Peterman

Ah yes, because NFL history is littered with smart 6'5 230 lb quarterbacks who run 4.8 40s and can throw the football 80+ yards. This is my whole point. Josh Allen himself has said he is more accurate than his stats show, and when given an opportunity to prove it on a level playing field he did. But the narrative remains. We will see, I guess. It's not like you will have to eat crow when you are wrong.

Do people ever even think for themselves anymore, or is it just parroting things they hear? Josh Allen is nothing like EJ Manuel. EJ had a super weird delivery and just looked awkward throwing a football. It was clear to see he wasn't a natural passer. You should be comparing him to guys like Roethlisberger, Stafford and Flacco...because those are the guys he is most like.

That's a blanket statement...I would agree that a sub-60% spread quarterback from a major school is someone to be avoided. Josh Allen is neither.

Again, context. There is a difference between hitting a target and knowing where that target should be. Both have an impact on "accuracy," though...Luke Falk is considered accurate because he is a great anticipatory thrower, for example. But it was clear that all things being equal he cant hit the broad side of a barn, especially at distance. And I am pretty sure there is a defense at the senior bowl. Those scouting reports said Josh Allen doesn't have touch, but at the senior bowl he made a perfect bucket throw for a TD. Yes, you have to project a guy like Josh Allen. That's the NFL front office guys job...But it's not like he came out of nowhere. He's been on the radar for two years despite the fact that he was playing at a garbage school. If he really was as inaccurate as you claim, there's no way that happens.

I feel like the accuracy thing is significantly overrated; especially when most of the bias is based on something as trivial and multi-variable as completion percentage. In two situations where you are able to make a somewhat apples-to-apples comparison, the senior bowl and the combine, Josh Allen was among the most accurate Quarterbacks there. At the combine specifically he looked like a man amongst boys and it wasn't just the distance but the ball placement as well. Bottom line is he doesn't just throw hard. If that was the case, he wouldn't be a top prospect. He is talented. His "accuracy" issues have more to do with anticipation and timing than anything wrong with his arm or mechanics. You know, the kinds of stuff better coaching and teammates can possibly fix.

I would worry more about the depth than Poyer...He's a smooth athlete, played corner at an all-american level in college, and is, by all accounts, a heady player. He's not an all-pro or anything, but he can contribute. Additionally, it's fairly clear he was targeted as a free agent...so clearly the staff sees him as a fit.

I don't know...if you include Alexander in that mix both in the case of injury and as a pass-rush specialist, It's not a bad group. You aren't going to dress more than 4 or 5 in a given week anyway.