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On 10/19/2018 at 12:21 PM, ctk232 said:
The expectations were always to rebuild? We were never supposed to make the playoffs, and we lucked into it more so thanks to Dalton. Then we show up in the wildcard game and can't even score a TD in a 10-3 loss, in what was otherwise a dominant defensive performance and very winnable game? Not going to build off anything with an offense like that. You might be able to "use the momentum" though, but any building off that team would've led to priced out and aged out players and larger cap issues.
If you looked at the roster as well, there was very little future talent that wouldn't otherwise be off the team in 2-3 years time. McBeane was always hired for a rebuild, and most new regimes will always build out their new team. Just because we made the playoffs last year doesn't mean anything, Beane even said as much.
The excuse this year? There is none, we just have a deplorable offense due to a lot of factors, but this is otherwise expected in a rebuild (especially with this current roster), and is actually more of what was supposed to happen last year until our defense started playing lights out. It's not an excuse so much as it is reality. You can start warming seats once they bring in an actual offense and try to win with those decisions.
When do you think that will happen? I'm not optimistic that it will happen any time soon because McDermott doesn't value offense, and he's in charge of personnel decisions. More distressing is that in the last two drafts, the Bills have seemed to fixate on particular prospects and be willing to give up too much to get those particular players. In 2017 and 2018 the Bills got relatively little for the draft capital that they had because they traded up several times. The success of high draft picks (rounds 1-3) is too iffy too often to make trading up frequently a good strategy.
On 10/19/2018 at 5:44 PM, RiotAct said:Byron Leftwich huh? Man, wasn’t he a rookie QB in the NFL only 13-14 years ago?
Yes. I think he was maybe the second QB taken in 2003 behind Carson Palmer. Lots of Bills fans wanted him, too.
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On 10/19/2018 at 11:56 AM, YoloinOhio said:
Though i wasn’t initially a fan of the hire, i can’t even fathom that. He’s now had to prepare 3 different QBs to start a game in 7 weeks, one a raw rookie and one with no TC who was sitting on a beach 10 days ago. He has limited talent to work with as well. Firing him right now would be ridiculous.
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On 10/19/2018 at 12:15 PM, Royale with Cheese said:It's not just for continuity. What decent OC would want to take this job when the previous OC was giving a QB that throws INT's at a historical rate, a raw rookie who wasn't supposed to start and a guy who was on vacation just 10 days ago....fired after 6 games?
Isn't part of the OC's job to evaluate the talent available to his offense? How can an experienced offensive coordinator NOT recognize that Nate Peterman's very serious physical limitations make him a questionable backup for even the most experienced, durable QB playing behind a great OL, much less for a team without even a solid OL, a non-NFL caliber WR corps, and an anemic running game? How can a competent OC name Peterman the starter at the beginning of the season when his teammates are not behind him? How could Daboll not "feel" that the team wasn't behind Peterson despite his supposedly good preseason showing? If Daboll is responsible for these decisions, then he's incompetent to be a NFL OC. If Daboll's opinion on offensive players' talent and likelihood for success is being trumped by McDermott or somebody else in the Bills FO, this team is so dysfunctional that bringing in another OC -- if anyone would be desperate enough to take the position -- would be useless.
On 10/19/2018 at 12:05 PM, Yav said:The Bills have problems with their OL and WR.
Things would be much calmer around here if everyone would realize this isn't going to be a good year for them. The Bills need to clear cap space and right now they are playing with little to no talent at WR and OL. Doesn't matter who the OC was going to be they just don't have the talent on that side of the ball to compete.
The Bills are going to have cap space at the end of the year and will be able to address some issues in FA and they will have good draft capital to move around the board and get the players they want.
Excuse me, but the lack of NFL caliber players on the OL and in the WR corps is NOT something that McDermott and Beane inherited. They made the decisions that resulted in the hot mess they have in both units. They gutted the competent WR corps (Watkins, Woods, Goodwin) they inherited in 2017 and replaced them with trash. The OL wasn't great in 2017, and then they lost Wood and Incognito to retirement, and replaced them with career backups and bottom-feeder FAs. Then they traded away Glenn. That was all before the draft -- a draft that after taking Allen at #7, they didn't bother to draft another offensive player until almost the end of the fifth round despite the desperate need for improvement on the offensive side. No team can expect to build a decent offense using primarily sixth and seventh round and UDFA OLers and WRs.
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6 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:
What about the defence though as per my statement?
The way they are playing they should be ready to give Luck plenty this week, but it’s never mentioned..
Who's saying that the Colts are going to blow the Bills out except possibly the Las Vegas bookmakers? Most don't think the Bills can score many points, so all Indy has to do is score one more.
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Just now, ShadyBillsFan said:
To be honest.
Id bet many of them don’t.
Right. We all know that media professionals in general don't bother to prepare for their jobs, especially former NFL players.
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3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:
Not much love for the Bills D from the “experts” in the national media...
Unlike many Bills fans, especially the homers, the "experts" watch numerous NFL games every week so they have a good idea of how futile the Bills are on offense ... even before they had to start their QB du jour.
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3 hours ago, TPS said:
McD had a good blue print. The D is Super Bowl caliber in year 2. If Allen Pan's out, they can make a run in 2020. They did screw up on not providing the vet/mentor and going with NP. They will address O as much as possible next year.
Maybe McDermott "had a good blue print" for the 1970s or 1980s but this is 2018, and his philosophy of great defense, strong special teams, and a conservative, run heavy run game with limited passing simply isn't sustainable. Teams that want to win consistently have to be able to score more than 1 offensive TD a game.
As for McDermott's supposedly "Super Bowl caliber" defense, that's hyperbole. The D is good enough to win against limited offensive teams but not against great ones, shown by the Bills got their clocks cleaned by the three of the four good/great offensive teams they played.
1 hour ago, mjt328 said:My assumption is that this study is supposed to justify the impatience over the Bills rebuild.
The bottom line is - Sean McDermott is in Year 2, Brandon Beane in Year 1 (and a half) and Josh Allen in Game 5. It's way too early to know anything.
The NFL's only remaining undefeated team and most unstoppable offense (Rams) finished 4-12 during Jared Goff's 2016 rookie season. They were DEAD LAST in virtually every offensive category and Goff was easily the WORST quarterback in the league. One year later, they were Super Bowl favorites.
Ummm ... the Rams canned the coaching staff that ended up "DEAD LAST in virtually every offensive category", and Goff was hardly "the WORST quarterback in the league". More importantly, the Rams GM Les Snead makes the personnel decisions, including hiring the HC, not the backassward way the Bills do things with the HC answering to the owners and the GM subservient to the HC, so there's not much to compare between the Rams and Bills.
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On 10/19/2018 at 3:30 PM, Mike147 said:
Derek Anderson has never proven to be an NFL quality starting quarterback in his career to date. He had one decent(ish) year but even that wasn't particularly great considering the stat line he posted. If the guy steps in and wins a few games, good on him, but all that proves is that all we need is a quarterback that can move the chains and get the offense going. All it shows is that the front office potentially made the wrong decision in getting rid of Tyrod Taylor because despite his shortcomings we did make it to the play offs with his style of play combined with good defense.
Will sitting on the bench teach Josh Allen to be an accurate quarterback? I doubt it. We drafted a mid-50s PCT guy and that is going to be difficult for him to improve on in the NFL. We might have to accept a similar PCT to someone like Cam Newton (generally sub-60), but you can win with that as Cam Newton has shown, Allen just needs to make use of his arm talent and athletic ability. Sitting Allen isn't going to help significantly, what will is being out there with a better supporting cast and learning the ropes first hand. At the end of the day being accurate is great but as a friend highlighted to me the other day (he's a Broncos fan), John Elway only completed three seasons with a pass completion above 60 in his career, and that guy is in the hall of fame and won two out of five Super Bowl appearances. Granted different era but with the right supporting cast we can have success with Allen even though he's unlikely to become one of the more accurate quarterbacks in the league.
John Elway is absolutely NOT any kind of "proof" that Allen can be an effective NFL QB despite his inaccuracy. Elway was drafted 35 years ago. If he had been drafted 30 years later (2013 rather than 1983), you can bet your last $ that his completion percentage would have been significantly higher (consistently in the 60s).
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Seriously dude, after the Bills play the Colts, they face NE, Chicago, the Jets, and Jacksonville. Even if you allow them a fighting chance against the Jets (I wouldn't at this point but it's the most likely), Derek Anderson is never going to develop a "hot hand" against the Pats, the Bears, and the Jags. Not happening.
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Just now, Royale with Cheese said:
This is a total crock of **** and you know it.
The Bills are going to let him make crucial draft decisions to only fire him one week later? Yes I know he resigned but don't be naive he was on his way out.
Paul Hamilton reported that McDermott banned from football operational meetings and wanted nothing to do with him.
You really think Beane accepts a GM role with us if Brandon is calling the shots? McDermott accepts this HC position when Brandon has full control?
You're confusing Doug Whaley with Russ Brandon. The HC cannot ban his boss from football operational meetings. Brandon wasn't fired immediately after the draft, and his firing had nothing to with football but with other issues in the Bills FO.
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13 minutes ago, Augie said:
You sound conflicted. ?
It’s OK to just say you don’t believe in Culley. I’ve never met the guy and know little about him, but on the surface it’s easy to question his qualifications. Developing Allen is arguably the most important task this entire team faces. We should have the best person money can buy to make that happen.
I'm not "conflicted" at all. The job of mentor belongs to the QB coach. If there's a veteran QB on the team who is willing to offer the rookie advice that's great but that's NOT HIS JOB. Too many posters here are posting stuff as if it's Anderson's job to counsel Allen, and it's not.
I'm afraid that the Bills have gone back to their old ways of hiring the cheapest assistant coaches they can after the Pegula's short term extravagance with Rex Ryan and his entourage, hence crappy offensive coaches like Dennison, Daboll, and Culley among others.
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24 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
We wouldn't have drafted a QB at #7, especially trade up for one if we didn't want our offense to produce at a higher level.
If we just wanted to ride the defense, we would have taken Mason Rudolph later on and drafted defense with our first two picks.
Russ Brandon was still head honcho on the Bills during the 2018 draft. I have little doubt that he's the one who decided the Bills would draft a first round QB in 2018, and set McDermott and Beane to doing it ... just like he set Whaley to drafting a first round QB in 2013. The similarities in the moves the Bills made in handling the QB situation in 2013 and 2018 are so remarkable that it suggests coming from the same source:
- shedding the competent albeit low level starter from the previous season well before the draft (Fitzpatrick and Taylor)
- drafting a "project" QB in the first round (Manuel and Allen)
- failing to address serious deficiencies on the offense in the draft or FA (in 2013, the Bills had Glenn and Wood on the OL but not much else; their TE was Lee Smith; and CJ Spiller was their starting RB)
- adding a veteran backup QB who was almost guaranteed to fail so that the first round QB would have to start some time during the season: Kevin "Glass" Kolb who couldn't even stay healthy enough to make it to the preseason in 2013 and AJ McCarron who undoubtedly objected to being third string behind Nate Peterman and was shipped out to Oakland
- Replacing veteran QBs with trash QBs who shouldn't even be in the NFL: Jeff Tuel and Thad Lewis, both UDFAs, in 2013 and Nate Peterman, fifth rounder, and street FA Derek Anderson in 2018.
- The Bills even drafted a LB high in the 2013 draft: Kiko Alonso in the 2nd round.
Brandon was a marketing guy, and since he took over the team, it's been run on a "money ball" philosophy. Cutting Fitzpatrick and trading Taylor saved the Bills millions in current salary. Signing bottom feeder replacements or rookies for the good young veterans the team developed, for good veteran players who retired, and other veterans who were traded or cut also saved millions. More importantly, drafting a first round QB insured additional ticket sales for several years as the fans waited for said first round QB to "develop" and provided the FO and coaching staff with cover if their great plans for domination by defense don't pan out.
Even though Russ Brandon is gone, his ghost lives on in the like-minded assistants he hired, including McDermott and Beane.
That's a pretty cynical view, but the current Bills team is so similar to so many previous Bills teams since 1999 that there's really nothing about them that indicates things will get any better any time soon. If Allen develops into a good NFL QB, it's going to be despite the Bills FO and coaching staff.
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21 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:
They look dejected.
Nate Peterman cost them another game.
Hence the report about losing the locker room.
Hyde and Poyer were visibly upset too.
Unfortunately, McDermott believes in the Jauron way of life. Ride defense and hope the other team makes a mistake.
No, no, no! McDermott is nothing like Jauron because he's gambled a few times on 4th down and he's way more animated on the sidelines! //sarcasm off
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The idea that Allen needs a "mentor" in the person of a veteran QB is utter nonsense. His QB coach is supposed to be his mentor. What Allen needs is a competent QB coach not David Culley, who has never played QB in the NFL (or apparently any other position), has never been a QB coach in the NFL, and whose last stint as an actual QB coach was 30 years ago at SW Louisiana State.
Having a competent veteran QB as an additional mentor would be a bonus, but I don't think that Derek Anderson, a street FA who's started 4 games in the last 7 years and only had 1 successful season as a starter (2007), qualifies as a "competent veteran QB". Apparently, his Carolina connection (7 years as Cam Newton's backup) trumps all other considerations, so the Bills pursued Anderson since the summer to the exclusion of all other candidates -- another example of the Bills having become the refuge for ex-Carolina players and coaches in need of a paycheck.
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The HC for that game was Dick "Play Not To Lose By Too Much" Jauron who was on his way to being canned before the end of the season. Depending on whether or not McDermott loses the locker room, he may also find himself unemployed.
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13 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said:
They have darnold and got a third. Why wouldn't they trade him?
I believe the Jets spent all of $500k for the insurance that Bridgewater represented before turning him into a 3rd round pick. Compare that to the
$2.1 million in dead cap space that the Bills wasted to have McCarron on the roster for a few months and the $3.5 million in dead cap space that the Bills wasted on giving Corey Coleman a ten day tryout. Anybody who "trusts" the clowns at OBD to competently use the 2019 draft and all that cap space to build an NFL offense probably still believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy.
12 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:There is no "almost" about it. Negligence is defined as the failure to adhere to the industry standard of care. As I've said elsewhere, the Bills constantly think they're smarter than everyone else - this goes back multiple regimes and multiple decades. And EVERY TIME they try to outsmart the rest of the league, they fail miserably - it blows up in their faces in embarrassing fashion. The QB situation in 2018 is no different (though it is remarkably similar to the Tuel/EJ fiasco). We have negligent owners hiring negligent GMs and coaches, and they're trying to sell us that this was the plan all along. It's a disgrace.
POINT. GAME. MATCH. The similarities between the 2018 QB fiasco and the 2013 QB fiasco are, to quote the late, great Yogi Berra, "deja vue all over again".
12 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:Here is the issue. THIS is NOT the offense they are BUILDING. Why is this so hard for people to understand? All these posts about what other offenses are doing make no sense. Beane has been here exactly ONE draft and in that draft went after the most important position. We lost 2 additional lineman unexpectedly as well. Beane literally said it would take 2 seasons to repair the cap as well.
We have NOT started to BUILD the offense yet, so everyone talking about this offense as if it was by design are way way off base. The only thing we did was tear down the crap offense everyone was complaining about for years to build it back up, but that takes MORE than one season. And first things first, get a new QB which we did.
This offense is in now way shape of form an offense they “built”, it’s literally the leftovers a mediocre offense with addition of just a few new pieces, only one of which is a key piece (Allen).
Why is it so hard to understand that any offense McDermott and Beane "BUILD" isn't going to be all that different from the current offense? McDermott is a conservative defensive minded HC who wants a strong defense and running game and doesn't value passing. Add the incompetence in evaluating offensive talent that McDermott/Beane have already demonstrated, and the idea of the current regime BUILDING a modern NFL offense (ie, one in which the QB might throw for 250-300 yards a few times a season) is simply a pipe dream.
8 hours ago, John from Riverside said:I guarantee you that McD is not happy about it....you can the strain on his face right now......
He simply does not know offense....and he needs to bring in ppl that do. His defense is crackerjack
He's missed on both of his OCs. His WR coach (Robiskie) can't even get his WRs to line up correctly. His QB coach is a former WR not a QB and has no track record for developing QBs. He doesn't know offense, and he doesn't care because he doesn't value the offense.
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5 hours ago, Tazor Face said:
Yeah I didn't say anything about who's better than what...but yeah Benjamin is better than Goodwin and so isn't Zay. Robert woods would have been nice to keep but cap situations and the fact he didn't seem to have much interest resigning, with no QB and a chance to play closer to home. And to add Watkins he is loaded with talent but hasn't exactly lit it up in his career which gives me the impression he has no more heart than Benjamin.
The Bills have made a practice of not re-signing their top young veterans at least since Russ Brandon took control of the team in 2006, and blaming the lack of cap space was a convenient excuse. If you doubt that, look around the league at all the teams that manage to pay franchise QBs, premier receivers and OLers, as well as excellent defensive players so that those teams are frequent playoff teams.
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On 10/12/2018 at 1:55 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:
These storms have been always happening. Just more people flocking to coasts.
Why give them an incentive to flock there.? Again, same happened with the land grab and bad farming practices prior to DustBowl years. There was a correction: People moved. They were forced to.
Why are we enabling more bad practices and giving incentives to move to areas (for sake of argument) we are effing up with the climate.
Okay... We are affecting the weather, now don't go there. Keep the numbers low. Yet, let's believe in some grand plan that we can magically fix everybody.
Sorry, it's called a "sacrifice zone." Like living in a floodplain, fire zone, tornado alley, etc... Don't have stones to carry on, adapt... Don't expect everybody else to. Move, just like generations before did. Those generations packed up and left. They weren't giving an incentive to encourage more to come closer to the routine calamity.
Again, not trying to be a Dick. Just see the writing on wall.
On 10/12/2018 at 2:37 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:Yeah, true. We we are talking sustainability here. People can't keep pouring into these places with incentive to do so.
It would be like free farmland somebody in Oklahoma in 1933. Then subsidizing their failed crops. No. You leave.
They are building structures on barrier islands. I mean come on.
I agree with both points. IIRC, after the last big flooding along the Mississippi or Missouri Rivers (or maybe both), the feds decided that they weren't going to keep paying to rebuild homes located in flood ways (this decision was made back in the GWB's administration iirc -- around 2005 or so). So, a lot of homeowners were given the choice of either getting help to move out of the flood-prone area or getting federal aid one last time to fix their current homes within the flood-prone areas.
There needs to be something like this devised for the coastal regions (maybe there is -- I think the Trump admin had proposed something earlier in the year or last year, but I don't know if it actually went into effect). FTR, numerous coastal areas flood frequently even without devastating hurricanes. We have enough data to know where those areas are, and it's time to start discouraging building in flood/storm vulnerable coastal areas. You want to live on a barrier island, then do so at your own risk. Otherwise, build back away from the vulnerable areas and leave the beach/coastal areas open for public recreation and served by temporary facilities.
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50 minutes ago, billieve420 said:
They can't keep Peterson on the roster next year and still say they are developing him. Once Allen is healthy he should be cut. Would rather Peterman be sent out there to sink or swim while Allen is out so this doesn't drag into next year. Also, prefer Anderson on the bench right next to Allen going over things during the game with him. I see no real benefit to Anderson playing other than possible mutiny within the team so I understand why decision had to be made.
IMO, the Bills are only a couple of steps from "mutiny" at present. Allen's play the last two games sort of reminded me of JP Losman's struggles after he was named the starter at the beginning of the 2005 season -- repeating the same mistakes over and over again with few signs of improvement. Mentoring Allen is the QB coach, Culley's, job, not the backup QB's, and especially not a street FA QB whose a couple of years removed from actually playing. If they wanted a QB mentor for Allen, then they should have kept Taylor -- like the Jests (who aren't as much jests as they used to be) kept McCown.
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2 minutes ago, ctk232 said:
Peterman is there for if Anderson goes down - otherwise we're watching Logan Thomas. And the guy who was a first year head coach of the team that ended our 18 year playoff drought is on borrowed time? Not saying all his decisions have been great, but both McD and Beane have themselves more time than anything this year can change. This team this year was never going to win 8/9 games, everything is on track as far as rebuilds go.
Could they have handled the QB situation better? Absolutely - but look at SF having to start Beathard now with Jimmy out, or way back starting Curtis Painter (or Dan Orlovsky?) when Peyton went down. Sure these examples have Jimmy and Peyton, which is infinitely better than Allen, but these things happen and it's not like it kept us out of a super bowl this year. In the grand scheme of things, the only time they begin to enter that question of job security is after next season when they've had a chance to rebuild the offense as well.
Believe what you want. Make all the excuses you want. This is NOT about starting a rookie QB who is clearly not ready to be a starter, although that is something that McDermott is clearly guilty of as well. It's also NOT about the starting QB getting hurt.
It's about McDermott stubbornly keeping Peterman on the team when he is simply not good enough to be a NFL QB, not even a backup. The Bills shouldn't have wasted a fifth round pick on him in 2017, and he sure as hell shouldn't have been considered to be the starter in 2018 after his debacle as a starter in 2017. That he "looked good" in preseason means nothing when teams don't game plan or scheme, and especially since he got the "softer" starting spots in the first and fourth preseason games IIRC since most teams don't play their starters much, if at all, in those games.
It's about McDermott and Beane trading away McCarron and not replacing him with a bonafide veteran QB until 5 weeks into the season because they apparently decided that Anderson was the only veteran QB worth pursuing ... I'm guessing because he was the only FA QB out there with a Carolina connection.
The incompetence that McDermott's demonstrated with the QB situation underscores his unfitness to be a HC in the NFL in 2018 and in the future. IMO, McDermott was close to losing the locker room even before Allen got hurt. The ragged play on ST and the spate of pre-snap penalties on the offense against the Texans suggest that there was already a serious morale issue on the Bills -- and Peterman's latest performance may have been the nail in the coffin.
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1 hour ago, Tazor Face said:
It's funny that we weren't good with these players, made the playoffs without them, but somehow they would save this team.
So, Kelvin Benjamin with his poor route running, lack of speed, and stone hands is a better WR than Robert Woods or Marquise Goodwin just because the Bills made the playoffs on a last second TD throw by Andy Dalton?
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19 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
He's 11-11 with a bottom five roster since he got here. Majorly screwing up the QB situation isn't enough to justify his firing.
McDermott has a bottom five roster because that's what he wanted. He was hired with significant control over personnel decisions, and pretty much won total control of personnel decisions when he vanquished Whaley and sent him packing. He is the major reason that the QB situation is "majorly" screwed up so he should absolutely get fired for it. Accountability isn't just applicable to players.
2 hours ago, In Nate We Trust said:She is a Rex Ryan buddy who does everything possible to make McDermott look bad. Rex Ryan and Russini do everything possible to make McDermott look bad. Instead of posting 88,000x maybe you should do some homework and you will learn nothing Ryan or Russini ever say about the Bills is right. Rex is a jealous clown who hates McDermott and his girlfriend Russini has no credibility.
Russini doesn't even have to try "to make McDermott look bad". He's done that all by himself, most notably with his stubborn insistence that Nate Peterman remain on the team. He is NOT a NFL-caliber QB by any measure and shouldn't be on the active roster. Waiting around for five weeks to bring in a better backup QB than Peterman is inexcusable.
1 hour ago, klos63 said:He's one of 2 healthy QB's on the team, the other being Peterman, I don't think many would be shocked if he started.
How good do you feel about Anderson? this is an unforgivable situation to be in.
Coaches have been fired for less. IMO, McDermott is on borrowed time unless Allen can come back before he loses the locker room and the Bills start getting blown out every out.
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21 hours ago, Mark Vader said:
By "everyone" I am talking about people on this board. Okay, it may not have been a unanimous 100% of the people on this board saying that, but it was clear that the majority of fans weren't exactly clamoring for the Bills to keep Robert Woods at all costs.
There were many people here saying how Woods was nothing special, or that he was a great run blocker.
Now all of a sudden fans are saying that we should have kept Woods no matter what. Where was all of this demanding from the fans when he was a free agent? I sure didn't see it.
I can see where you're coming from, and I agree with you about many fans changing their tunes after the fact. However, my point is that the people who make personnel decisions do so without regard to fans' opinions -- or should make them without to regard to fans' opinions. With the Bills, I'm not sure that's true. Since Russ Brandon was handed control of the team in 2006, the Bills have frequently made personnel decisions based on how those moves would impact ticket sales. I think the signing of Mario Williams and drafting EJ Manuel (from a simply terrible QB draft class from top to bottom) were both examples of that. I think that Brandon's sticky fingerprints remain all over the current Bills team even after he was fired. Neither McDermott nor Beane would have even been considered without having Brandon's prior approval.
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51 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Josh Allen is not the part of the equation that worries me.
The part that worries me is whether McD/Daboll/Culley can actually develop a project QB prospect and consistently put him in positions to succeed.
I dont think they can.
Totally agree. I think McDermott is a good game day HC, and his judgement of defensive talent is pretty good. On the offensive side, however, he simply sucks at talent evaluation of both coaches and players. Saying that Daboll is better than Dennison is simply saying one's noxious crap and the other's slightly less noxious smelling crap. That the Bills drafted a first round QB but didn't bother to upgrade the QB coach demonstrates how little McDermott cares about the offensive side or about developing his rookie QB. Hell, the Bills didn't even get around to bringing in a bonafide veteran QB until five weeks into the season when Peterman utterly failed as the starter in the season opener.
Essentially, McDermott and his henchman Beane are pretty much expecting Allen to sink or swim on his own. I don't expect the Bills to seriously improve the team around him either because they'll use the excuse that they have so many holes on defense and special teams, which in McDermott's universe, are infinitely more important than the offense.
42 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:Indeed, which is why I think the parallel is so important.
LAR went out and added Woods, Watkins, Kupp, Cooper, Higbee, and Reynolds in a single offseason, and put them in the scheme of a young, creative, forward-thinking offensive play-caller.
Chicago went out and added Robinson, Gabriel, Miller, and Burton in a single offseason, and put them in the scheme of a young, creative, forward-thinking offensive play-caller.
What will we see this offseason?
As for the landmark of "getting it", I've always liked @K-9's 1,000-attempts barrier.
I don't we'll see much on offense in the offseason. McDermott doesn't care about the offense, and even if he decided for some reason to go on an offensive FA spending spree, I don't think that any first rate offensive players (nor many second rate ones, either) will be willing to come to the Bills because of McDermott's Neanderthal offensive philosophy.
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9 hours ago, GreatComeback said:
The deal and power they gave Gruden is insane. He gets paid for 10 years whether he coaches or not!
The situation with him and Reggie McKenzie is bizarre. Gruden calls the shots while Reg the GM is second in command
Why is it "bizarre" for the Raiders but not for the Bills? McDermott calls the shots while Beane does his bidding.
McDermott's Judgement on offense is impaired.
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McDermott is in charge of personnel. He reports to the Pegulas, as does Beane, but McDermott makes the personnel decisions, and Beane simply sees to it. It's similar to the way that the Bills have operated since 2006 when Russ Brandon took over the team. Levy was a figurehead GM in Jauron's first two years, then Jauron ran the team until 2009 when Buddy Nix came in to oversee scouting apparently. Nix had a more traditional GM role as he hired Chan Gailey but Gailey was more interested in coaching than selecting personnel. In 2013, Whaley became GM with shared personnel responsibility with the HC. It lead to issues with Marrone, and may have led to some issues with Ryan. The Pegulas changed the situation when they fired Whaley and turned personnel responsibility over to McDermott with Beane being the guy who works out the details. Beane also has limited, if any, player personnel experience. His role in personnel in Carolina was similar to that of your company's HR director rather than player evaluation.