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2 minutes ago, ctk232 said:
Peterman is there for if Anderson goes down - otherwise we're watching Logan Thomas. And the guy who was a first year head coach of the team that ended our 18 year playoff drought is on borrowed time? Not saying all his decisions have been great, but both McD and Beane have themselves more time than anything this year can change. This team this year was never going to win 8/9 games, everything is on track as far as rebuilds go.
Could they have handled the QB situation better? Absolutely - but look at SF having to start Beathard now with Jimmy out, or way back starting Curtis Painter (or Dan Orlovsky?) when Peyton went down. Sure these examples have Jimmy and Peyton, which is infinitely better than Allen, but these things happen and it's not like it kept us out of a super bowl this year. In the grand scheme of things, the only time they begin to enter that question of job security is after next season when they've had a chance to rebuild the offense as well.
Believe what you want. Make all the excuses you want. This is NOT about starting a rookie QB who is clearly not ready to be a starter, although that is something that McDermott is clearly guilty of as well. It's also NOT about the starting QB getting hurt.
It's about McDermott stubbornly keeping Peterman on the team when he is simply not good enough to be a NFL QB, not even a backup. The Bills shouldn't have wasted a fifth round pick on him in 2017, and he sure as hell shouldn't have been considered to be the starter in 2018 after his debacle as a starter in 2017. That he "looked good" in preseason means nothing when teams don't game plan or scheme, and especially since he got the "softer" starting spots in the first and fourth preseason games IIRC since most teams don't play their starters much, if at all, in those games.
It's about McDermott and Beane trading away McCarron and not replacing him with a bonafide veteran QB until 5 weeks into the season because they apparently decided that Anderson was the only veteran QB worth pursuing ... I'm guessing because he was the only FA QB out there with a Carolina connection.
The incompetence that McDermott's demonstrated with the QB situation underscores his unfitness to be a HC in the NFL in 2018 and in the future. IMO, McDermott was close to losing the locker room even before Allen got hurt. The ragged play on ST and the spate of pre-snap penalties on the offense against the Texans suggest that there was already a serious morale issue on the Bills -- and Peterman's latest performance may have been the nail in the coffin.
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1 hour ago, Tazor Face said:
It's funny that we weren't good with these players, made the playoffs without them, but somehow they would save this team.
So, Kelvin Benjamin with his poor route running, lack of speed, and stone hands is a better WR than Robert Woods or Marquise Goodwin just because the Bills made the playoffs on a last second TD throw by Andy Dalton?
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19 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
He's 11-11 with a bottom five roster since he got here. Majorly screwing up the QB situation isn't enough to justify his firing.
McDermott has a bottom five roster because that's what he wanted. He was hired with significant control over personnel decisions, and pretty much won total control of personnel decisions when he vanquished Whaley and sent him packing. He is the major reason that the QB situation is "majorly" screwed up so he should absolutely get fired for it. Accountability isn't just applicable to players.
2 hours ago, In Nate We Trust said:She is a Rex Ryan buddy who does everything possible to make McDermott look bad. Rex Ryan and Russini do everything possible to make McDermott look bad. Instead of posting 88,000x maybe you should do some homework and you will learn nothing Ryan or Russini ever say about the Bills is right. Rex is a jealous clown who hates McDermott and his girlfriend Russini has no credibility.
Russini doesn't even have to try "to make McDermott look bad". He's done that all by himself, most notably with his stubborn insistence that Nate Peterman remain on the team. He is NOT a NFL-caliber QB by any measure and shouldn't be on the active roster. Waiting around for five weeks to bring in a better backup QB than Peterman is inexcusable.
1 hour ago, klos63 said:He's one of 2 healthy QB's on the team, the other being Peterman, I don't think many would be shocked if he started.
How good do you feel about Anderson? this is an unforgivable situation to be in.
Coaches have been fired for less. IMO, McDermott is on borrowed time unless Allen can come back before he loses the locker room and the Bills start getting blown out every out.
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21 hours ago, Mark Vader said:
By "everyone" I am talking about people on this board. Okay, it may not have been a unanimous 100% of the people on this board saying that, but it was clear that the majority of fans weren't exactly clamoring for the Bills to keep Robert Woods at all costs.
There were many people here saying how Woods was nothing special, or that he was a great run blocker.
Now all of a sudden fans are saying that we should have kept Woods no matter what. Where was all of this demanding from the fans when he was a free agent? I sure didn't see it.
I can see where you're coming from, and I agree with you about many fans changing their tunes after the fact. However, my point is that the people who make personnel decisions do so without regard to fans' opinions -- or should make them without to regard to fans' opinions. With the Bills, I'm not sure that's true. Since Russ Brandon was handed control of the team in 2006, the Bills have frequently made personnel decisions based on how those moves would impact ticket sales. I think the signing of Mario Williams and drafting EJ Manuel (from a simply terrible QB draft class from top to bottom) were both examples of that. I think that Brandon's sticky fingerprints remain all over the current Bills team even after he was fired. Neither McDermott nor Beane would have even been considered without having Brandon's prior approval.
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51 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Josh Allen is not the part of the equation that worries me.
The part that worries me is whether McD/Daboll/Culley can actually develop a project QB prospect and consistently put him in positions to succeed.
I dont think they can.
Totally agree. I think McDermott is a good game day HC, and his judgement of defensive talent is pretty good. On the offensive side, however, he simply sucks at talent evaluation of both coaches and players. Saying that Daboll is better than Dennison is simply saying one's noxious crap and the other's slightly less noxious smelling crap. That the Bills drafted a first round QB but didn't bother to upgrade the QB coach demonstrates how little McDermott cares about the offensive side or about developing his rookie QB. Hell, the Bills didn't even get around to bringing in a bonafide veteran QB until five weeks into the season when Peterman utterly failed as the starter in the season opener.
Essentially, McDermott and his henchman Beane are pretty much expecting Allen to sink or swim on his own. I don't expect the Bills to seriously improve the team around him either because they'll use the excuse that they have so many holes on defense and special teams, which in McDermott's universe, are infinitely more important than the offense.
42 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:Indeed, which is why I think the parallel is so important.
LAR went out and added Woods, Watkins, Kupp, Cooper, Higbee, and Reynolds in a single offseason, and put them in the scheme of a young, creative, forward-thinking offensive play-caller.
Chicago went out and added Robinson, Gabriel, Miller, and Burton in a single offseason, and put them in the scheme of a young, creative, forward-thinking offensive play-caller.
What will we see this offseason?
As for the landmark of "getting it", I've always liked @K-9's 1,000-attempts barrier.
I don't we'll see much on offense in the offseason. McDermott doesn't care about the offense, and even if he decided for some reason to go on an offensive FA spending spree, I don't think that any first rate offensive players (nor many second rate ones, either) will be willing to come to the Bills because of McDermott's Neanderthal offensive philosophy.
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9 hours ago, GreatComeback said:
The deal and power they gave Gruden is insane. He gets paid for 10 years whether he coaches or not!
The situation with him and Reggie McKenzie is bizarre. Gruden calls the shots while Reg the GM is second in command
Why is it "bizarre" for the Raiders but not for the Bills? McDermott calls the shots while Beane does his bidding.
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1 hour ago, Troll Toll said:
I see a lot of buyer’s remorse going on with Josh right now and I really don’t get it. I don’t see the other rookie QBs lighting it up yet and Josh was the 3rd one taken. Had he not been injured, I think we beat the Texans and he moves to 3-2 as a starter with 3 wins against playoff caliber teams.
People say they aren’t seeing improvements and I couldn’t disagree more. The deer in the headlights look is fading and the game appears to be slowing down. I’m seeing far fewer ill-advised decisions. He is still a work in progress (like all the other rookie QBs), but nothing so far makes me think he has any less ability to be successful than the other guys.
I think the biggest remaining areas for improvement for Josh are:
1. Properly gauging what is NFL “open”. If he can get a grip on that this year, wait until he gets targets who can separate.
2. Presnap recognition. He is a really smart kid and I have confidence he will excel in this area over time. This is the first time he is seeing the exotic defenses of the NFL.
Biggest reasons for optimism over QBs of the drought era:
1. The arm talent - Throw on any EJ or Fitzpatrick game and you’ll see head scratching zip code accuracy issues.
2. Use of the middle of the field - We rarely saw this with Losman and Tyrod. It completely handicaps an offense when you refuse to use half of the field.
3. Willingness to throw downfield - Trent Edwards was the worst at this. Defenses will play close to the LoS like they are moving the fielders in against the kid who sucks at kickball. You have to keep the defense honest.
4. Signs of pocket presence - We’ve gone through many QBs who had no feel for the pocket and would just take off at the first sign of pressure. Allen has shown flashes of poise, keeping his eyes downfield, stepping up in the pocket and making a throw. He still has a ways to go, but I didn’t even see flashes of this from past QBs.
When you throw 23 passes a game, you generally won’t hit 300 yards. To do so would require ~13 ypa which is a phenomenal number. He is developing before our eyes, but it seems like a lot of folks can’t see the forest through the trees. My eyes tell me he is already on par with where Tyrod was a year ago and he is just getting started.
Do you watch any NFL football games other than the crappy ones the Bills play? Have you bothered to watch Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, or Josh Rosen actually play? Have you even bothered to watch their highlights? Did you bother to watch CJ Beathard, a third round rookie QB drafted in 2017 who has only a few more starts than Allen, play in MNF? He threw 2 -- count 'em, 2! -- TDs to Bills reject Marquise Goodwin, and his team almost beat the Packers in Lambeau. Allen has a long, long way to go to reach the level of his peers, and I doubt that the current Bills regime is even capable of developing a young QB -- or any offensive player actually.
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8 hours ago, reddogblitz said:
Did his team win?
^^^
21 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:Are you serious ?
Of course reddogblitz is serious. According to the Bills faithful cheerleaders, any player that the Bills sent packing or that the Bills passed on in the draft to take another "project" is trash unless his team wins every out, even when the current Bills roster is filled with scrubs like it is this season because we all know that "next year the Bills have X $$$ for FAs and X draft picks" and the Bills will load up on superstars and win the SB.
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8 hours ago, Mark Vader said:
So you both would have been fine with the Bills giving him the type of contract the Rams gave him?
Absolutely. Woods is not only talented, he's a gamer.
8 hours ago, Mark Vader said:Then you are the first person on this board that I know of to be in favor of it.
When Woods walked everyone said the Rams gave him too much.
Who, exactly, did you consult to determine "everyone said the Rams gave him too much"? The Pegulas? Russ Brandon? Jim Overdorf? Doug Whaley? Sean McDermott?
More importantly, why do you care so much about saving the Pegulas a few millions by replacing quality players with trash players just to save some $? It's not like the Bills are giving fans a break on tickets because they put a crappy product on the field.
6 hours ago, NewDayBills said:Best part about it is, when McD gets fired and we hire a new HC, he's going to come in and cut the players McD drafted on defense. The cycle never ends, we will always be a farm team for the NFL.
I am so damn sick of seeing players whom the Bills (and their loyal cheerleaders) didn't think were "worth the money" going to other teams and flourishing. This isn't something that just started with McDermott and Beane, but has been going on for decades, especially under Russ Brandon's rule. That's the foundation of the real "Bills culture": money over talent. That's why McDermott is the Bills HC with control over personnel except where various Bills FO bean-counters have a say and Beane is subservient to McDermott.
5 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:From the guy who comes to the Bills boards and says nothing positive about them ever, I consider that you think that to be proof of high quality.
And you're the one who's deflecting. Pretend that the receivers are the only reason for the problem if you must, but you're wrong, as usual.
What's there to be positive about with the Bills in 2018? The offense is even more offensively bad than usual even when Allen was healthy. The vaunted defense may be great statistically but it's just as unable to come up with big stops/turnovers late in games when needed to secure wins as the crappy Ds that Rex Ryan fielded. For all the hype about emphasizing ST skills that McDermott spews, the Bills ST are more liabilities than assets. How the hell is any of this all that different than the previous 2 decades of Bills ineptitude? Boring, unwatchable, ineffective offense. Unclutch defense. Crappy ST. Same old Bills.
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8 hours ago, zow2 said:
But as others have said they don’t play special teams. McD could not use them here ?
Wood and Goodwin also didn't buy into "the Process" which they apparently demonstrated by simply wanting to be paid market rate for young veteran WRs with their talent level.
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20 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:
I doubt that the Pegula's are hiring anybody to look over Beane's or McDermott's shoulder. They were most likely told this was a 3 year project but I suspect that Kim will be in their ear to overcome any desire to overlook the offense in favor of another defensive piece.
It's NOT about just adding offensive players. It's about evaluating offensive talent so that you pick/pursue the right offensive players to fit your team's offensive philosophy and needs. That presupposes that the people/person in charge have a viable offensive philosophy. McDermott doesn't. He doesn't value or believe in building a good offense, just one that won't lose games for his defense. That's a losing philosophy in the modern NFL where teams need to have at least some kind of passing offense in order to have any real chance of success.
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1 hour ago, jrober38 said:
Sure. It's not Allen's fault he's not very good.
This regime looks pretty dumb for falling for the big, strong QB who all the analytics said wasn't a very good player.
Hopefully he gets a lot better, but the early signs have not looked good.
It's actually not even Nate Peterman's fault that he keeps sucking. He would certainly like to be a whole lot better, but he just doesn't have an NFL caliber arm, and the Bills coaches refuse to accept that. He should be a practice squad player or the third QB on the active roster, not the starter or the primary backup. The cluelessness of McDermott and Company about offensive football in general and QBs in particular is simply beyond belief.
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3 hours ago, Generic Screen Name 2 said:
No denying that at all. I guess I'm just way past getting upset anymore. Definitely into the seriously jaded phase at this point. Probably related to my complete lack of tolerance for whiners now.
Except that you are upset. You may no longer get "upset anymore" by the crappy teams that the Bills continue to put on the field year after year, but you obviously get "upset" with posters who still care enough about the team to complain about it. Why is that? My guess is that you're a "my way or the highway" kind of guy just like McDermott: because you're good with the Bills playing crappy, everybody else should be okay with it, too -- or they should just "shut up".
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1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:
No, and before handing Beane $80M to spend next offseason, the Pegulas need to hire an experienced football mind to serve as a consultant to vet every decision that gets made. Mis-spending that money will sabotage this team for 4+ years.
The Pegulas need to do this, or this team will continue to be a disaster for a whole lot more than just 4 years. They will never become a top echelon team as long as McDermott is HC because of his lack of interest/knowledge of offensive football, but if he's allowed to continue to mismanage player personnel as he has for the last 2 years, it will take 4 or 5 years after he's gone just to bring the team talent, especially on the offensive side, up to the NFL average.
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2 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:
Has he ever been good? I don't know, from my lazy eye test he has always been bad to average.
He is in that Tannehill class. Good enough to waste years on, but not good enough to win anything.
This has always been my take on him, too. I would add Bortles into that same group, and maybe Winston, too. They are just good enough that their teams can not afford to let them walk, but they always come up short in actual games.
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7 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:
Fair question....
One reason is because of draft status. Peterman was a 5th round pick & Allen a first round pick.
Peterman was a projected back-up NFL QB, Allen a potential solid to good if not great NFL starter.
Peterman has looked bad since he started playing. Granted he was dealt a bad hand and was thrust into the spotlight when he probably shouldn't have. Those interceptions has left all Bills fans with a bad taste, and they don't want to see anymore from him. It may be unfair, but that's how it goes.
Many people feel that Allen can and will be the future of the Bills, myself included. He was given a bad deal and thrust into action immediately, when some of us wanted to see him holding a clipboard all year. That's not how it turned out and here we are.
I personally hated the Peterman pick. Even though it was a 5th round pick. I saw nothing from him in his college career that convinced me he was going to be a starter in this league. Josh Allen was not my top QB in the draft this year, but I was fine with the Bills selecting him. He's raw, but I believe that he has good to great potential.
I feel that Allen is progressing. Slowly, but progressing. I really think we would have won today, had he not gotten hurt. That pass to Benjamin was big and you could see that he was hyped and hungry and ready to go on the attack, but he had to accept that he was injured.
That's the best way I can put it. Peterman got sucked into a no-win situation and now he has been stigmatized. He threw two very nice passes to Zay Jones & Andre Holmes today and then he threw two awful interceptions. The loss goes with him, that's a bad deal, but that's how it goes sometimes.
Peterman should not have been the Bills backup last season or this one because he was absolutely not ready to play. Maybe he shouldn't have even been drafted as high as he was since he lacks an NFL caliber arm. Maybe if he was afforded time to learn the nuances of pro football and been introduced slowly into game action (as in garbage time), he might have eventually figured out how to compensate for his physical shortcomings and become a modest backup QB. Now, I don't think he has any chance of doing that at all simply because McDermott had the need to "prove" that he was right about whatever stupid point he was trying to make ("football character" trumps talent perhaps?) by throwing Peterman into the fire.
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I have questioned McDermott and Beane's competence about anything to do with offensive football since last TC when, after letting Woods and Goodwin walk in FA, they traded away Watkins, too, essentially stripping the offense of all its NFL caliber WRs and all its ability to stretch the field. At this time (even before Sunday's game), I have become convinced that McDermott not only doesn't care about offensive football but that he views it as a necessary evil, most especially that new-fangled invention called the forward pass. He apparently thinks to resurrect the 2005 Bears that went to the playoffs with a great defense, a great running game, and a rookie QB ... or maybe he wants to resurrect the 1973 Bills that rode rookie QB Joe Ferguson feeding OJ Simpson the ball on nearly every play (to the tune of 2003 rushing yards for OJ) to a 9-5 record.
Whatever the motivation, McDermott and his henchman Beane are clueless about how to build a modern NFL offense. They don't value offensive football, and moreover, McDermott seems to be more interested in players' character or attitude than in their talent. Sorry, Sean, but work ethic and "buying into" your outmoded offensive philosophy do NOT trump talent.
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5 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:
What did you expect allen to look like at this point? Be realistic. He was going to struggle. He has the least talent around him. We’re in a huge dead money hole this year. Everyone knew it coming in. But there are still posters who are just shocked(!) by all of this.
I'm not shocked. I'm angry that McDermott and Beane spent so much on a first round QB and then set him up to fail by doing just about everything they could possibly do to insure he fails. If you go out and buy a brand new shiny Mustang, are you going to park it out on a narrow side street or are you going to protect your investment by renting a garage?
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Just now, JoPar_v2 said:
As am I. They aren’t terrible; McDermott obviously knows defense.
They need to cast a wider friggin net though. Beane needs to start getting players HE wants and not having to clear everything though McDermott (just speculation, but that’s sure how it seems to work currently.)
McDermott took over pretty much total control over personnel since before the 2017 draft. I believe when he was hired, he was supposed to share personnel selection with Whaley (that's sort of how it worked since Whaley was hired). Sometime between his hiring and the draft, McDermott won the power struggle, and Whaley was essentially a lame duck for the 2017 draft, being fired the next day. The FAs the Bills picked up before the 2017 draft generally have the "feel" of Whaley and the "old" Bills scouts ... bargain priced FAs who played pretty well. Think Hyde, Poyer, E Gaines (whom the Bills didn't bother to re-sign but who is playing decently for his new team). Even Ducasse wasn't a bad pick up since he was added to be depth at the G position behind Miller. The 2017 draft was McDermott's with apparently input from some of his pals already on board. The 2018 FAs and draft class belong to McDermott and the new scouts who were mostly refugees from Carolina. Beane is not a personnel guy, so I think he's the one charge with actually making the deals and dotting is and crossing ts for McDermott rather than deciding which players to bring in or send packing.
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3 minutes ago, fridge said:
We brought the rebuild upon ourselves, and did so in mind-numbing fashion.
Today, Nick O'Leary caught a TD pass from Brock Osweiler. The rest of the league has no problem scoring with waiver wire guys, yet here we are, trotting out sub 100 yard passing performances like they're badges of honor.
Minor point, but the Carpies also won that game ...
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56 minutes ago, Helpmenow said:
Losing faith with the Carolina crew
I never had any faith in the Carolina crew. It's not like Carolina has won 5 Super Bowls in this century ... or any other century, either.
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8 minutes ago, Mark92 said:
The offense sucks! It just does. It's a waste of a legit defense and it makes the whole front office and coaching staff look really bad.
The whole front office and coaching staff don't look really bad. They are really bad ... just like they've been again and again over the decades. In fact, if I didn't know it was 2018, I'd swear it was 2001 or 1985 or 1971 or 1968. 2018 has the feel of being about as bad as any of those.
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42 minutes ago, Mat68 said:
Buffalo has a solid core on Defense now. With the cap space and up coming draft I expect alot of that being used on the offense. In 2019 you are going to see wholesale changes to the offense.
Given McDermott and Beane and their scouts' wondrous ability to judge offensive talent, I doubt that those "wholesale changes to the offense" will result in significant improvement in offensive performance, especially since McDermott, Daboll, Castillo, Robiskie, and the rest of the current offensive coaches are still here. Swapping out stinky crap for slightly less stinky crap doesn't change any of it into treasure.
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3 hours ago, COTC said:
We already have welfare ticket prices because of the city we play in.
How much cheaper do you want them to go?
The new stadium will end this and you will see it is a privilege to attend a game.
To watch a generally non-competitive team get a lucky ugly win once a month if they're lucky? ROTFLMAO. The Sabres used to be the hottest ticket in town, but the Pegulas fixed that pretty well.
Week 7: Colts Game Preparation - Josh Allen and Taiwan Jones Out with All Others Ready to Play on Sunday; TY Hilton Back with Ryan Grant Out
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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IMO, the Bills are only a couple of steps from "mutiny" at present. Allen's play the last two games sort of reminded me of JP Losman's struggles after he was named the starter at the beginning of the 2005 season -- repeating the same mistakes over and over again with few signs of improvement. Mentoring Allen is the QB coach, Culley's, job, not the backup QB's, and especially not a street FA QB whose a couple of years removed from actually playing. If they wanted a QB mentor for Allen, then they should have kept Taylor -- like the Jests (who aren't as much jests as they used to be) kept McCown.