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People are also allowed to question if the Bills HC/GM use irrelevant criteria (like a player having certain religious views) in evaluating players without being insulted and bullied ("Take you're rebellious college attitude to a political forum.") by arrogant individuals who dislike the idea that others don't think just like they think they should.

ROTFLMAO. My guess is that you always "Billieve". In five years from now, you'll still be praising crappy drafts and claiming the next new regime is "100% different than the poop in the past".

I have to say it's the Saints, Chiefs, and then the Rams. The Saints are a complete team, and they have a QB who's "been there, done that" , is a first ballot HOFer, and is playing some of the best football of his career. The Chiefs are so explosive that they can overcome their defensive lapses, but the Saints are almost as explosive offensively but are tougher on defense. The Rams have recently had an epidemic of injuries to key personnel, most notably and recently Cooper Kupp, and that may compromise them going forward.

McCarron was traded for a fifth rounder. That said, exactly how many decent NFL players have McDermott and Beane drafted? Aside from Tre White, how many of the players drafted by McDermott and/or Beane could start on most NFL teams? Don't even make the excuse that "they're just first or second year players who need to develop" because good/great players show that early on (as White did). That Barkley -- and even Anderson -- were so much more effective than Allen is very troubling. These guys never were good when they were employed regularly as NFL QBs. That Mayfield and Rosen look so competent as rookies, demonstrates how far Allen has to go just to catch up to his peers. ^^^ Ah, yes. We should all be thankful for the small favors of the Vikings and Jests happening to not show up to play, and start fantasizing how the Bills will run the table and squeak into the playoffs, immortalizing McDermott and Beane as deities in the Bills' sorry history.

Holy crappola! That's scary.

The truth obviously hurts, but keep on spreading the manure about how much McDermott and Beane want to build a passing offense. Why isn't there a single starting caliber WR on the Bills roster -- and hasn't been since they traded Sammy Watkins in July, 2017? Why did they wait a month to bring in a veteran QB who was at least competent after they traded McCarron and Peterman crapped the bed in the opener??? Why did they wait until the very end of the fifth round (pick 29 IIRC) to bother to another offensive player after Allen in the 2018 draft? If they "drafted their heir young QB to be their future" why the hell didn't they even bother to get him a real QB coach when it was repeatedly noted by every scout/evaluator etc who watched Allen that he needed significant work on his fundamentals to even have a chance to be a moderately successful NFL QB? The answer is that theyy drafted Allen for the same reason that Donahoe drafted Losman in 2004 and Whaley drafted Manuel in 2013: to put butts in the seats. They have no more commitment to having a passing game than Mercedes Benz has to making economy cars. If Allen somehow develops into a decent NFL QB it will be despite McDermott, Beane, and Pegula.

It's what happens when the HC's anachronistic philosophy meets the GM's incompetence meets owner's "profit trumps winning" mantra to form a melange a trois made in hell for fans.

McDermott/Beane can yap all they want about much they supposedly value a strong passing game but their actions say that they don't value it AT ALL. Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen. My guess is that they won't draft offense before Day Three.

The Bills only hope for a TD is a pick six or a fumble returned for a TD. They'd have a much better chance if Darnold was playing, but McKown is usually careful with the ball, so it's not likely IMO.

Well, that all depends upon which NFL team you're talking about. Generally, successful teams with lots of established veterans on their rosters don't play their starters much. They play lots of 2nd and 3rd stringers and Day Three/UDFA rookies looking to make the roster. Even when first teamers are playing, they don't tend to go all out the way they would in games that count. This tends to make less talented teams look better in preseason than they really are. The Bills played better in pre-season than they've played in the regular season because now they're going up against teams that are not only more talented but are also willing to go all out to win. They're also going against offensive coaching staffs that are not only light-years better at their jobs than anybody the Bills have on the sidelines but have offensive talent that is light-years better than almost anybody the Bills put on the field, too. The Bills have an offensive system; that's not a smoke screen. The problem is that it's an offensive system that might have worked thirty or forty years ago but is a joke in 2018.

Keeping Taylor would have given the Bills a real NFL caliber QB! It would have given Allen a real opportunity to sit and learn and to get some first hand advice from a veteran QB who has had some recent success in the NFL. Furthermore, the Bills would not have had to pay for the failed experiment of AJ McCarronl, and Peterman could have been sent to the PS where he might have actually developed a tiny bit of competence so that he's not a turn over waiting to happen every time he comes into a game. What if Allen and Edmunds don't become great? The chances of both becoming "great" are between slim and none. Half of first round QBs other than the guys taken #1, either bust outright (Ryan Leaf, JP Losman, EJ Manuel etc) or are disappointments (Ryan Tannehill, Blake Bortles, Jameis Winston). Numerous non-QB first round picks don't ever live up to their first round draft position for various reasons, including sustaining serious injuries. Both Allen and Edmunds are projects which makes them even riskier than most first round draft picks, Allen more so than Edmunds because he's a much bigger project.

What in Peterman's game says "competent back-up QB"? He simply does NOT have an NFL caliber arm which is a prerequisite for even a backup QB. There are so many QBs available with good/adequate arms who are lacking in other aspects of QB play (which is why they don't/didn't make good starters) that a QB without at least a decent arm doesn't stand much chance to last very long.

The list of mistakes starts with McDermott's 2017 draft when he traded out of #10, passing on 2 QB prospects who were significantly better than Josh Allen, in order to take a DB. I don't care how great Tre White becomes, passing on a QB to take a DB is a mistake. Trading Watkins when there were no other WRs with speed on the team was another mistake, especially when they have failed to bring in a WR with real speed over both 2 seasons. Trading Darby for Jordan Matthews and a third round pick (Harrison Phillips) because Matthews did nothing for the Bills and wasn't re-signed. Trading Tyrod Taylor and keeping Nathan Peterman, incurring nearly $8 million in dead cap space that could have been used to sign more/better FAs. Giving up so much talent and draft capital to get Allen and Edmunds. The draft is largely a crap-shoot, even with high picks, so giving up so much to get only two players when the team has so many needs isn't smart. Except for the #1 pick, first round QB prospects, are only successful about half the time, and Allen is the kind of prospect who is most likely to fail: a raw project in need of significant coaching. Not bothering to address the offense after drafting Allen until the end of the fifth round despite obvious holes on the OL and among the WRs. Failing to hire a better QB coach than David Culley. Trading for Corey Coleman, incurring $3.5 million in dead cap space, on a team already strapped by an enormous dead cap space. Failing to have a third QB on the PS going into the regular season. Failing to get around to signing a better backup QB than Peterman for a month. Are those enough serious mistakes for you? McDermott/Beane have repeatedly demonstrated their incompetence to build a competitive team.

How the hell can somebody even pretending to be a professional football administrator allow his team to go into the regular NFL season WITHOUT at least 3 QBs under contract, even if only two are on the active roster. That's what the PS is for!!! The QB situation is a testament to McDermott/Beane's incompetence.

I've been saying this all year. As poor as the offense was last season with Taylor, it's way worse this season ... there's not even a running game worth the name.

Agree. They tried to play the same "money ball" style football that Brandon and Whaley practiced, but they're too incompetent at personnel evaluation -- both players and coaches -- to come close to even typical Bills mediocrity when they have to depend upon their own people. Bull manure. The only "plan" in trading away Watkins, Darby, and Glenn was to a) get rid of players that McDermott didn't want or b) cut current salary regardless of the impact on the team. Most of McDermott's and Beane's personnel moves have been serious errors in player evaluations rather than "missteps".

The Bills may not score 51 points the rest of the season ...

I think the score depends upon which QB starts for each team. McKown-Peterman - Jests 35, Bills 3 (you gotta know the Jests get at least 1 pick six, and probably more) McKown-Allen - Jests 17, Bills 9 (Bills miss a 2 pt conversion) Darnold-Peterman - Jests 35, Bills 17 (Bills get 2 TDs off Darnold TOs - 1 pick six, and we know NP will contribute his obligatory pick six) "Pick Six Bowl" Darnold-Allen - Jests 17, Bills 16

The Bills don't have to try. It just comes naturally.

Firing McDermott and Beane and reorganizing the team structure more in line with most other NFL franchises with a GM answerable to the owner and everybody else answerable to the GM.

Yes, the Cleveland Browns are the perfect team for the Bills to emulate. Bills fans aren't the laughing stock of the league. The Bills team is a laughing stock because they suck no matter how you try to spin. No, "the process = incompetence". I think the Pegulas wouldn't have a problem attracting a top flight HC if they do what they should have done when they bought the team: hire an experienced football exec with a strong player personnel background from one of the top notch NFL organizations (like KC, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, etc) to be a real NFL GM/President of Football Ops/Czar with the power to hire and fire everybody below him -- and answerable only to the Pegulas. The new GM would have the final decision on who stays and who goes, from the well-heeled suits on the second floor of OBD to the scouts to the coaching staff to the players, etc. It's time to finally completely break free from the shadow of Ralph Wilson's ghost (especially since they axed his spiritual "son", Russ Brandon, back in May).

Thanks for the good news, Terry. I'm sure your assurances will cement the determination of thousands of Bills season ticket holders to renew their tix for 2019 ASAP.

Are you serious??? Watkins had 982 yards (6 TDs) as a rookie, 1047 yards (9 TDs) in 2015, and 430 yards (2 TDs) in only 8 games in 2016. So far in 2018, his 530 yards (3 TDs) in 9 games is almost as many yards as he had in 15 games (593 yards, 8 TDs) in 2017 which suggests he'll be around 1000 yards and 6 TDs once again. Claiming that the Bills don't miss him is just more of the typical BS you spew in defense of McDermott and Beane. The Bills passing offense stunk last year without Watkins and with both Wood and Incognito playing all season but Glenn missing most of the season. Watkins has as many TDs as the entire Bills passing offense has this whole season. As for the Bills not being able to "afford" Watkins, that's more bull manure. With the lowest current salary level in the league, they certainly could have despite the self-inflicted dead cap money by creating a cap friendly new contract/extension like other teams do. They simply didn't want to because McDermott and Beane have repeatedly demonstrated how much they value the passing game. As for the lame claim that "but they used that 2nd rounder to get Josh Allen", that's plain stupid. Watkins was traded after the first preseason game, which was long before there was any kind of clear picture of how good or bad the Bills would be and long before the collegiate football season. If McDermott/Beane decided that they were going to draft a QB in 2018 in July without knowing the candidates and made trades to do that, that's simply either being too clueless to believe or it's "money ball" as its most sinister.

The "it's not really our fault" bull manure is exactly that, bull manure. That's simply disingenous excuse making on your part. McDermott has had control of personnel decisions since the 2017 draft, no matter how much you want to deny that, so it's on him. As for McDermott and Beane's claims about recognizing the importance of having a good passing game, they talk the talk but they sure don't walk the walk. If they truly believed this, the Bills OL and WRs wouldn't be so bad, and they wouldn't have a WR coach "mentoring" their first round QB prospect.

My guess is that the Bills WRs are too slow to run too far downfield unless the QBs have 10 seconds or so to throw the ball.