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12 hours ago, babulator said:
I like the drama of the chains and measurement. Games should be able to be played without electronics imho.
No electronic scoreboards or instant replay then. Should we also go back to leather helmets???
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On 5/21/2024 at 7:18 PM, Bob Jones said:
One big, BIG difference between Kap and Butker is that Kap did his thing on “company time.” To me, and to many others, that makes a world of difference. An analogy would be if right after the SB win, down on the field in post game interviews, Butker would have said some of the stuff he said at the college commencement speech.
The biggest difference between Kaepernick and Butker is that Kaepernick protested against the numerous and well documented instances of police brutality against African American men while Butker ranted against aspects of American society/culture that he personally doesn't like.
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I voted better. I think that the Bills plan a more balanced offense this season which, hopefully, will take the pressure off Allen to play "hero ball" -- and make fewer mistakes. I don't think "making receivers better than they are" causes pressure on a QB like Allen (or Mahomes); they do that automatically even with great receivers.
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13 minutes ago, boyst said:
The biggest selling jersey of the last week. 🤷🏼♂️
I am amazed how people groupthink and isolate themselves. Especially here. This is a community of maybe 200-300 regularly active users. High users probably under 100.
Of them they are folks who specifically sought out an online venue to hyper focus on their favorite sports team. These folks generally share traits I've noticed over the last few years. Many in some sort of tech field, for example. Many whom have limited experience playing organized sports, as well.
If we hyper focus on this issue like we do the Bills we end up forgetting there is a whole lot bigger world out there and forget the Bluffton University existence. Or the Iowa Wesleyan University. Or BYU. Or Liberty.
A lot of people don't hold views like us and appreciate when someone like Butker is willing to do something many are afraid to in today's world: mention them.
Do you also "appreciate" that some neo-Nazis and KKKers aren't afraid to "mention" their views?
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4 hours ago, What a Tuel said:
Transgender and gender dysphoric youth have a much higher chance of suicide. It is literally dangerous. Whether or not they are right with their feelings or justified in portraying themselves is secondary to that fact. There should be a lot more care in what we expose children to.
4 hours ago, What a Tuel said:May be true but the same could be said of putting a child through unnecessary trials in their social life.
You guys act as if this is a concrete subject, as if you either have gender dysphoria or not. There is no middle ground with you in which someone may feel confused but ultimately affirm their born gender but in the meantime they have a significant pressure from the certain groups that this makes them "unique" and "special" and "heroic" and who wouldn't want to feel those things? Then how dumb do they feel when they ultimately change their mind? Maybe some cant bear to change their mind?
Im not sure what you mean by communicable here. No i didnt say anything like that.
I have a transgender person in my family. Being transgender is not something somebody chooses or learns, and "dysphoria" doesn't come close to describing what transgender people suffer because of the mismatch between their biological sex and their gender identification. They know they are "miswired" even as very young children.
4 hours ago, Steptide said:I have zero issue with anything he said. I have catholic friends who have 9 kids while the wife is a stay at home mom and the dad works to support the family. This isn't terribly uncommon with Catholics. 2nd, he never said woman have to be home makers. The first thing he said was how many of them will have amazing careers, promotions etc. I can't believe we live in a world where celebrating the nuclear family is negative. I don't expect every woman to be stay at home moms and cook and clean all day, but my wife would kill for that opportunity. We both work full time and raise our family, but if she had the choice, she'd absolutely be at home. That doesn't mean all woman want that, but alot do. The fact that people are outraged over this really blows my mind
This statement is bogus. Maybe you have 1 Catholic "friend" who has 9 kids, but having 9 kids is just as uncommon among American born Catholics as it is among Americans of any other faith. I was born Catholic during the baby boom, and families with 9 kids were exceedingly rare even then.
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On 5/15/2024 at 1:59 PM, BillsFooteball said:
America is divided so I don’t even care about the irrelevant political rant he went on. Issue is it was homophobic and misogynistic.
That's the crux of the issue with Butker's speech. He revealed himself as just another privileged straight male using religion to justify his homophobia and misogyny.
On 5/15/2024 at 4:50 PM, RkFast said:A Catholic person at a gathering of Catholic individuals gave a speech where he/she/they promoted the values of living as a Catholic.
Now replace the word "Catholic" with the name of any other social/political identity or class and let me know if its still something to be "outraged and offended" about.
Always amazes me how in the modern world where literally everything is looked at through the prism of extreme dogma, the group that basically invented the damned word is the only one thats denounced for practicing it.
Butker's views are a perversion of modern Roman Catholic teaching and practice going back to the 1960s and the Second Vatican Council. When the Pope blesses homosexuals and working mothers, who the hell is Butker and people who think like him to promote homophobia and misogyny in the name of the Church?
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1 hour ago, Doc said:
Then what/why are you trying to argue here?
In FC's universe, any nameless WR taken after the Bills drafted Ray Davis (#28 in the fourth round) would have been a better pick simply because Davis is RB and not a WR. That Davis has a skill set that is exactly what the Bills would like in a backup RB, that he likely upgrades the position significantly, and has very reasonable chance of making the Bills 53 man roster is immaterial.
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5 hours ago, GoBills808 said:
if we hold the ball for 38 mins we likely win
similarly if Diggs comes down w that catch we likely win
both those are addressed by having a legit wr1
Wasn't Diggs a "legit wr1"? He dropped a pass. Guess what, even HOF WRs drop passes. People aren't robots; they screw up frequently.
5 hours ago, SCBills said:If you're going to go in on a big investment at WR, either via FA or a trade next year, why wait?
That's the part I don't really get.
Why purposefully leave that bullet out of the chamber this year, in one of Allen's prime years, if you plan on doing it anyway next year.
To what?... Save your RD2 pick and provide a slightly cleaner cap because you didn't have to make room/push money down the road by bringing said player in this year?
To me that seems illogical.
If you're looking to make that move next year, you should explore making it this year.
If you want to see how Coleman, Shakir and Kincaid show out this year before seeing if that move is necessary, then you wait.
Maybe because you don't have the cap space to pay that WR franchise savior?
4 hours ago, FireChans said:Would you like to answer my questions?
LOL. This is funny coming from you because you never did answer my question mucho pages ago. In case you've forgotten, I asked you to name one of the WRs you would have taken instead of Ray Davis in the 4th round because you've been continually whining that the Bills should have taken another WR on Day 3 and you singled out Davis.
1 hour ago, FireChans said:The guy who said, “I bet you won’t say that when you watch him play.”
I think when you draft a 25 year old running back, he better be contributing week 1, because his career countdown begins.
LOL. You're still trashing the Davis pick even though you don't have any idea of the WRs who were left when the Bills picked in Round 4. Here are the WRs taken after the Bills picked at #28 in the 4th round in the order they were drafted in rounds 4-7: Jacob Cowing, Anthony Gould, Ainais Smith, Jaman Thrash, Bub Means, Jha'Quan Jackson, Malik Washington, Johnny Wilson, Casey Washington, Tejhaun Painter, Jordan Whittington, Ryan Flournoy, Brenden Rice, Devaughn Vele, Tahj Washington, Cornelius Johnson. So, who would you have picked?
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12 hours ago, DrMaxPower said:
This place has been miserable AF since the draft. The worst it's been since 'Wrong Josh'.
Everyone wanted a Playstation for Christmas but when they came downstairs, there was a bike with socks and underwear. Instead of realizing that there's nothing wrong with a bike and we really needed new socks and gotch, it's tantrum time.
Are we going to have to endure this endless whining for the next 6 months? Sounds like a fun way to be a fan...
Last off-season people were losing their minds because they intended to run Spencer Brown back out there and they didn't sign a MLB. They said their guys were in house and they believed in their development. Seems to have worked out OK. That's what good teams do.
Can we not take a breath and wait and see? 2nd best record in the league over the last 5 years says they deserve at least a bit of confidence. They aren't the morons people want to make them out to be.
Perfectly said! Kudos!
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
I know it will be a successful offense just because we have Allen. Extremely likely to be top 10, likely top 5ish even no matter what. But I want top 2. That's what this team needs to win a championship. I'm not convinced we have added enough talent to have a top 2 offense. If you disagree that's fine. Everybody seems to agree we need several players to step up big time for us to hit that standard.
The Bills need an elite defense more than an elite offense to win a championship.
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5 hours ago, FireChans said:
What?
They don’t need to be Puka Nacua or ASB. It would be nice if they were a Khalil Shakir. Or an MVS.
Is Ray Davis gonna be the next elite RB? Is he gonna get another contract with the Bills at 29 years old?You didn't answer my question: which Day 3 WR looks likely to play somewhat like Nakua? The Bills need a speedy outside WR for 2024, not a kid who will probably take at least a season to develop -- if he ever does.
They added a speedy outside veteran WR in MVS who has shown he can be clutch in the playoffs, something that Diggs and Davis haven't shown in a while.
5 hours ago, FireChans said:If you don’t want to discuss the Bills, you don’t have to go on TBD lol
You aren't discussing the Bills, you are simply venting your anger -- ad nauseum -- that the Bills didn't do what you wanted them to do in the draft. There's absolutely nothing you can do about the Bills personnel decisions, so move on, dude.
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4 hours ago, FireChans said:
What’s funny is that MVS had basically his career average his first year starting.
I’d take my chances on a fourth or fifth round WR contributing this year over Ray Davis. That’s just me though.Well, of course you're willing to "take your chances" on a fourth or fifth round WR since your livelihood isn't dependent upon making smart choices. What WR taken in the fourth or fifth round of this year's draft is likely to be another Puka Nakua?
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27 minutes ago, FireChans said:
Brandon Beane Chess not Checkers
Don’t draft 2 WR’s in the best WR class in decades, draft DL and safety, then bargain bin shop for bad old WR’s that are tapped out.
MVS is a literal success story as a fifth round pick. So is Quintus Cephus. Why not draft the next version of those guys with potential vs these bums?
Maybe because a) draft picks don't come with guarantees even in "the best WR class in decades" b) Day 3 rookies are rarely ready to play full time WR for teams aspiring to Super Bowl contention c) maybe the Bills liked the players they drafted better than the WRs that were available when they picked.
13 minutes ago, Realist said:Or he could be the guy that drops 10 passes during the season, but makes that one great catch that gets the Bills in the Superbowl.
Shades of Mecole Hardman in the Super Bowl.
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2 hours ago, Mango said:
The issue with Rodgers is he is a bad team player. He’s a “me guy” through and through. He demands control and sprints away from accountability, then publicly blames everybody around him.Absolutely. Rodgers did the same manure in Green Bay, but Green Bay is a backwater compared to the New York metro so his selfishness wasn't really spotlighted outside of Packers Nation. Not many Packers fans cried when Rodgers packed his bags and left for the Big Apple, and it's become very clear why.
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1 hour ago, boyst said:
when you're ready a have a number for you to call.
one of the outcomes of several things going on in this country is that organizations like the FAA and FBI are actively becoming policing agencies. They're not. They were never meant to be. They never should be. The IRS is the absolute worst.
The local law enforcement just wants more justification to encroach on the liberties of the people. like you said, it's entirely unenforceable to pursue these small Amazon drones that people fly. its also not in the best interest of the community to worry about the tailgate party taking a few fun shots of the table jumps or beer bongs.
Bull manure. When a drone hovers over your backyard, somebody is spying on you ... just like some pervert peeking in your window.
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7 hours ago, Bangarang said:
People here will criticize this signing but praise the signing of Claypool. Make it make sense.
Miami doesn't need a relatively expensive, possibly washed up veteran WR to make them a better team. They need big time help on their defense since two of their best defenders are coming off serious injuries, one an Achilles and one a MCL plus they lost at least one DLer and a LBer in FA. They could also use some OL improvement.
Claypool is a cheap veteran who could significantly upgrade the Bills WR room if he can recover the form he displayed in his first two seasons. If he doesn't work out, he's gone.
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I'm with you, eball. The Bills have actually given Allen at least as many reasonable targets, especially if you include rookie RB Ray Davis, as he's ever had. Allen won't have an elite WR but he will have a variety of decent or better receiving options. IMO, a diverse offense is better than a one dimensional offense that can be planned for.
SF can afford to have lots of skilled players because they aren't paying Purdy like a franchise QB. BTW, Miami still hasn't extended Tua, so they can still afford Hill, Waddle and now Odell.
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18 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
Delightful!
But the fact remains that were it not for a miracle run at the end of last season, they'd have won it.
ROTLMAO! Yes the Bills went on a tear at the end of the season, but Miami lost 4 or 5 out of their last 6 games, including a loss to the Titans as well as another loss to the Bills.
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19 hours ago, ngbills said:
They were good last year and almost beat us out. That is with Tua and we have Josh. What does that tell you if Tua is so bad. They take another step and they have passed us. Funny how people love to say they are all hype when we are the team underperforming with a top QB.
Essentially punted on the draft - trade back and get Coleman.
Now punting on the vets - we get Claypool.
Tua is what he is, a decent but not great QB. He wasn't the reason the Fish lost the AFCE and got abused by KC (with their second-rate WR room) in the playoffs. The fact is that Miami is a one-trick pony on offense, and when tough defenses shut them down, they have no Plan B on their offense. Their D couldn't handle good offenses very well, either. IOW, they're good at beating up on cellar-dwellers but can't beat decent teams with good defenses as evidenced that they only beat 1 or 2 teams with winning records. (Faux Super Bowl Contenders).
Their D suffered serious losses in the off-season, and unlike the Bills' defensive losses, these were of players who were major contributors. They also have a new DC.
Signing OBJ does nothing about their real problems.
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3 hours ago, billsfan89 said:
I was thinking Going into last season I had several concerns about the team two super glaring ones and two moderate concerns.
2023 start of the season concerns
- MLB - Most fans including myself didn't know the truth about Bernard, the limited action he saw his rookie year in 2022 he looked small and lost. Starting him at MLB after losing Edumonds looked like a big hole on the team.
- RT - Spencer Brown showed potential after his rookie season but he was a turd right tackle in 2022. The Bills brought back a marginal backup in Queese and a marginal vet competition in Snell so there wasn't much of a plan B for Spencer Brown. Luckily after an uneven/bad start he turned it around and was a quality starter.
- WR2 - The Bills spent their biggest draft resource on Kincaid but the Bills were still running out Gabe Davis as a WR2. Shakir was an unknown and Harty and Sherfield were marginal players. This ended up being not as bad due to the fact that Gabe was decent and Shakir emerged and Kincaid had his desired impact.
- Safety Health and Decline - Hyde was 33 coming off a huge injury and Po was 32 coming off a season where he was banged up. Both were around the age where safety play declines and the injuries the year before were not a recipe for success. Luckily they hedged by bringing in Rapp a quality backup so the concern was alleviated.
2024 going into the season my concerns are
- WR- No Diggs and Davis, a lot riding on Keon to come in and Shakir and Samuel to step up. It's a major area of concern as glaring as MLB and RT were thought to be going into last season but the position seems to hold more weight to the offenses success apparently.
- DE - Floyd is gone and Von was a no-show last year. Shaq Lawson also is not there anymore but wasn't much more than a JAG last season. There's a lot riding on Von bouncing back closer to his 2022 form to fill in for Floyd while the back end of the rotation is a rookie in Solomon and unproven players in Toohill and Kingsley Jonathan.
- Kicker/Punter/Special Teams - No secret Bass collapsed in the playoffs and was shaky in the regular season, Martin is a vet but coming off a below average year. ST unit also wasn't that great. The Bills drafted some ST aces in round 5/6 that should help but Bass is a major concern.
It's less overall concerns in 2024 but the top concern is so glaring and vital that it makes me feel a bit uneasy. But I think the Bills will win 11+ games, take the division and win a playoff game. The rest is going to be about luck and development and rookie impact.
Thanks for an excellent post, especially bringing up your big concerns going into 2023, which were probably most fans' concerns, too. That Beane and McDermott dealt with those personnel issues as well as they did last season -- as well as replacing their OC in season -- suggests that they are not nearly the incompetents that some here think they are and that the season isn't over before it even starts.
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16 minutes ago, mjt328 said:
The Chiefs have now won the AFC West 8 years in a row, and won double-digit games 9 years in a row. During that span, they have 3 Super Bowl wins and 4 appearances. Nobody is expecting less this year.
Before them, the Patriots had 17 straight seasons with double-digit wins. They won the AFC East 16 of those years. The only year they didn't was when Tom Brady tore his ACL in Week 1, and they still somehow finished with an 11-5 record.
Around the same time, the Colts had 9 straight seasons with double-digit wins. Won the AFC South in all but one of those years (12-4 and still ended in second place). Then Peyton Manning missed an entire year with a neck injury and was released. After that down year, they did it 3 more years in a row with Andrew Luck.
Even the Steelers now have 20 straight years finishing .500 or above. They haven't had a losing season since Tommy Maddox was the starting quarterback.
Bottom line... there are no legitimate excuses for not winning 10-11 plus games and at least making the playoffs. The idea that we "must go through a down year" to re-set the roster and fix the salary cap is complete nonsense. If we can't go 3-4 seasons without needing to rebuild and reboot everything, then Brandon Beane isn't good enough as a General Manager, and he wasn't doing a proper job of preparing for the future.
Now whether that expectation is reality, I don't know. Beane's actions appear (at least from the outside) to be a guy fully expecting a rebuild season, and then reloading a year from now. Hoping that I'm wrong.
I don't think that the bolded sentence is true at all.
- White didn't play the last 12 games of the regular season or the playoffs and had already been replaced by Douglas last season.
- Hyde and Poyer had some injuries, and both had significantly slowed down. If one or both were starters this season, they would be targeted by every DC.
- Floyd's 10.5 sacks will be missed. At best, Miller comes back better in 2024 than he was last season, and that hole at least closes if it doesn't disappear.
- Dodson backed up Bernard, but Bernard should be healthy and Matt Milano should be returning, too.
- I think that Morse might be missed at center and/or McGovern at guard but the OTs and the other OG are solid. McGovern's replacement at G was on the team last season.
- Both Diggs and G.Davis weren't big contributors in the second half of the season or in the playoffs. Both seemed to have lost the ability to make clutch plays in 2023. The Bills will miss Diggs' 1000+ yards, but not necessarily him. Davis was certainly not worth the $13 million the Jags are paying him.
- I don't think that the Bills were looking to replace Diggs and G Davis spot for spot. I think they want a WR corp that is sure handed and can catch passes in the middle of the field and in the red zone.
- R Davis is a nice addition to the RB group behind Cook and Johnson as both a runner and pass catcher.
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10 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:
If anyone even listened to the Beane presswr, the word "transition" came up as a response to filling leadership roles/parting ways with vets. Every year is a new roster/new dynamic.
Now, too many are using that to put words in Beanes mouth (ie: don't get expectations high, 2024 is a rebuild/2025 is the focus, etc).
To pull out a 'Tomlinism', "the standard is the standard". It's playing "playoff caliber" ball all season, reaching the dance and trying to make a run at a SB.
Anything beyond that is pure speculation/reflection of what posters think this team is capable of.
This was my take, too. Moreover, "transition" means changing or morphing into something else. The Bills didn't tear down the team they had from last year but shed mostly players who underperformed compared to their past play, especially in the playoffs. My guess is that without cap issues, it still would be unlikely that White, Hyde, Poyer, and even Davis would be starters on the 2024 team. Diggs would definitely not be a Bill in 2024. Only Floyd and Morse would be starters.
1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:I just don't trust Aaron Rodgers' motivation. I do think the Jets are the threat to the Bills in the division but I think Aaron is already retired in his head. If the Jets get off to a hot start they are a threat. But when adversity hits I think he will check out very quickly.
I have the Bills winning 10 or 11. That could be enough for the division. It will likely be enough for the playoffs. I think the Jets could be a playoff team. I don't think Miami will be because I think their defense is gonna suck and while they will put up points against bad teams they will stall against good teams as per usual.
I agree.
As a retiree, I can attest to how actually making the decision to retire impacts your attitude even if that retirement date is a year or two in the future. If you've got all your retirement ducks in a row, especially financially and the date set, the urge to just say "take this job and shove it" and walk out the door when things go south is like a siren-song ... even if you've loved your career and job and have always been a "team player".
Personally, I don't think Rodgers has been a "team player" for a long time if ever. His flirtation with politics this past winter demonstrates that he's already planning his next chapter.
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Romanowski sounds like a sociopath, right down to insinuating that "roid rage" may have played a role in his bad behavior. Lots of players from that era used steroids but, even under the less restrict rules in effect then, his on-field behavior was egregious and his off-field behavior reprehensible. That he spent the last 20 years using his company as a tax dodge just underscores Romanowski's belief that the rules don't apply to him.
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2 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:
And some people might think being retired baking in the sun on the beach is a waste. But to each their own! Do what makes you happy I say 😄
Take it from me, being retired and doing exactly what you want to when you want to is priceless. I was a farm kid. I started working for pay at 11 picking strawberries for 6 cents a quart, and I worked continuously for the next 55 years until I retired 8 years ago.
22 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:Fun fact: Ken Griffin, the bidder, is one of those sociopath Wall Street billionaires who makes his money Office Space style. He uses high speed computer algorithms to skim money on every trade, siphoning money from all so that he can do things like move to Florida to avoid taxes and bid $10,000,000,000 on a franchise with a mid QB.
You realize that almost all fortunes, not just in the US currently but all over the world throughout history, were created by someone screwing over other people. It's just the way it is and has always been.
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The end of "moving the chains"?
in The Stadium Wall
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If everyone was a "purist", we as a species would probably still be wandering naked on the plains of Africa grubbing and living on fruit, nuts, roots, grubs, insects, and the occasional not too overripe animal carcass.
Maybe I misunderstood or misread the article, but I thought that the tech would depend upon a sensor in the ball that would record precisely where the ball landed as well as an electronic line-to-gain. That would be similar to what they use in tennis matches.
I think a horn signaling the clock expiration is a really such a simple fix that it's surprising that it doesn't come up every time there's one of those controversial plays.