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    Game week thread - Dolphins at Bills TNF

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    6 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

    Divisional game.  You know the drill.

     

    Throw everything you think you know out the window.

     

    Have you watched either of the Fins' previous two losses?   They've been "in disarray" to be kind.   "Running for the bus" mode might be a better description.

    Game week thread - Dolphins at Bills TNF

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    5 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

    This game will be close. If Miami loses their season is over. Buried in the division and little hope in the AFC wildcard race. 

     

    They would fall to 0-3 and then face the Jets, whose coach will run it 451 times on them for 480 yards. 

     

     

     

    The Fish don't have a good enough defense to consistently stop the Bills passing or running.   The Bills could beat themselves, but that hasn't been their mo this season.  

     

     

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    Game week thread - Dolphins at Bills TNF

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    1 hour ago, JP51 said:

    Quite honestly we are saying the same thing...  I guess its all in the definition of trap game... for me its a game that you clearly should win but dont because you dont bring your best game and ultimately beat yourselves... my hope is that they just wanna give up and dont come out like a cat in a corner...  maybe my use of the word trap is simply a misnomer for we are playing a team we should beat all day long, but I could see this going the other way if we dont take it seriously as a team...  

     

    Traditionally, a "trap game" is a game against a much weaker team followed by a game with a stronger team.   The idea is that the strong team will overlook the much weaker team because it's looking ahead to its stronger opponent.  New Orleans is hardly the team to make many teams worry about them two weeks out.

     

     

    47 minutes ago, T.E. said:

    If they don't win, their season is over and their coach probably gets fired. If they like that guy at all, they're going to come out amped up. Really hope McDermott is doing his "It's hard to win in the NFL" routine all week.

     

    Why do you think that McDermott won't?   I think that he does that for every single game.  Even with Allen, the team wouldn't win nearly as consistently as it does if he didn't.

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    Monday Night Games 9/15 Thread

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    2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

    I just wanna say that the 2017 QB class might rival 83 at some point. Baker Mayfield played a phenomenal game. That run on 4th and ten during the last drive 😪 Total command of the offense & clock, left Houston with 0:06 and still had leftover time outs. Someone predicted a Bills vs Bucs SB and I initially laughed it off, but I can definitely see it now. 

     

    That's the 2018 QB class.   Allen and Jackson are future HOFers for sure.  Mayfield may get consideration if he continues to play as he has with Tampa.   Darnold hasn't turned out badly, either.    Four quality starting QBs from any class is very rare.  I think only 1983, 2004 (E Manning, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Schaub), and 2018.

    Burrow's Turf Toe and torn ligaments; now being reported out three MONTHS

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    3 hours ago, dorquemada said:

    He's just too slight to take the pounding.  Watching the play he got injured his legs look like Tre's, just sticks with little tiny ankles.  Obviously has skills but was never going to last with that build

     

    He wants to play like Ben Roethlisberger but he simply doesn't have the frame for it.   He needs a stout OL and a good running game to prevent the defense from teeing off on him like Cleveland did in Week 1 -- and he needs to change his style so that he gets rid of the ball quicker.

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    Meanwhile, always fun to drop in on Finheaven during Bills week

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    5 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

    Grier and Mcdaniel really botched the rebuild…as much of an a** as Flores was he had those guys competing with a ton of picks/cap space to spend still.  I think they woulda been a playoff team with fitz if they let Flores finish off the rebuild tbh then they coulda looked for their next qb 

     

    i feel like in that McDaniel/shanahan system run by tua you either scheme a receiver wide open based on putting defenders in conflict or tua is forced to hold the ball and couldn’t find prime Jerry rice if he was out there lol. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to me they invested so heavily in wr and never got the oline right 

     

    then they went all in on pass rushers and pretty much ignored LBers that could cover and actually contain Josh runnin up the middle 

     

    They spent so much, cap-wise and draft-wise on WRs that they haven't been able to build been able to improve their OL or their defense.    That's the same thing the Bengals did,  and they've been wasting Joe Burrow's prime because they can't make the playoffs even when Burrow can stay relatively healthy because their defense is so bad. 

     

    1 hour ago, Steptide said:

    I'm gonna be mad if the bills come out in this run first offense they've been doing. Dolphins secondary is awful. Josh should have 400 yards minimum on Thursday. I get they're probly trying not to show their hand too much, but cmon, this should be an absolute killing 

     

    I'm sorry you drafted Josh on your fantasy team.

    Burrow's Turf Toe and torn ligaments; now being reported out three MONTHS

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    18 minutes ago, Tulsabillsfanz said:

    It really is a tough break for Burrow and the Bengals. It could happen with good or bad protection.  For whatever reason, Burrow has just been an injury prone player. 

     

    Any QB who has been sacked and knocked down as frequently as Burrow has in his career is going to become "injury prone".   The more you get hit, the more likely you'll get injured.

     

    Last week in Cleveland, the Browns were on him all game.   The Browns DL, led by Garrett, were absolutely relentless.  I was surprised he lasted the whole game.

    IMO, it was a matter of time before Burrow was injured for multiple games.  I may have even mentioned that in one post or another.   

    Beware of Aaron Glenn

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    16 hours ago, TBBills Fan said:

    I wouldn't write Glenn off yet.  It's year one.

     

    Unfortunately, he's coaching the Jests.  I doubt that any HC can find real success with the Jests under the Johnson family.  Unless the Johnsons sell the team or one of the younger Johnsons takes over the team and changes ownership's philosophy, nothing will really change.    We saw it with the Bills and with the Lions.   Both teams were perpetual bottom feeders until there was a change in ownership: Pegula bought the Bills and Harp took over the running of the team from her mother.

     

    16 hours ago, Bferra13 said:

    Its all about getting a qb that hits. If he doesn't he'll go on the trash heap as well. I highly doubt Fields is the answer.

     

    Fields is an Allen/Jackson/Mahomes wannabe.  He can run, and his passing has improved, but I think his biggest issue is that he doesn't have the intangibles that make Allen/Jackson/Mahomes great.  He can look good if he's not under pressure but he wilts when things don't go his way.   I think that that was why the Steelers benched him for Wilson last season.

     

    14 hours ago, FireChans said:

    If any HC gets a QB, they will be fine.

     

    teams aren’t firing everybody every couple years because they can’t find a coach worth a damn. It’s because they can’t find a QB

     

    That's such a simplistic take that it borders on nonsense.   

     

    The history of the NFL is littered with examples of HCs who had good/great QBs but were still fired/let go.  The first one who comes to mind is Mike McCarthy who was fired by the Packers (Rodgers) and by the Cowboys (Prescott).

     

    Furthermore, teams that fire their coaches every few years aren't just failing to find the right QB.  They are crappy organizations starting with the owners, so they fail to field winning teams, which may or may not be the fault of the HC:

    • During the Drought era, the Bills had an excellent veteran QB in Drew Bledsoe for 3 seasons, but they didn't support him, and finally sent him packing because they didn't want to pay him. 
    • The Lions chose Matthew Stafford as the #1 overall pick in 2009.  In his 12 seasons in Detroit, Stafford had 3 HCs:  Jim Schwartz, Tom Caldwell, and Matt Patricia.  Stafford was always a good/great QB despite the teams around him.  During that span, the Lions had 3 playoff appearances but failed to win a playoff game.  He went to LA and won the SB with the Rams in his first season.
    • The Jets are another team with crappy ownership.  The Jests have not only missed on picking "the right QB" for 20+ years, they have failed to develop the "right QBs" they did find, namely Geno Smith and Sam Darnold, who have gone to be named Pro Bowlers and take other teams to the playoffs.

     

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    MLB 2025 Except the Yankee's

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    6 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

    I never heard anybody pick the Brewers to be this good, or for that matter the Jays.  Congrats on the Jays from a Orioles fan

     

    Thanks.  I am a very casual baseball fan, but this year I started watching more games.  I'm a fan of underdogs, especially teams like the Brewers that don't spend money in FA like drunken sailors but develop their own players.  They also play "old fashioned" fundamental baseball, which I like.   

     

    Before I became a Jays fan, I followed the Orioles in the 70s when they were synonymous with great pitching.  If they aren't playing the Jays, I will always root for the Birds.  

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    MLB 2025 Except the Yankee's

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    How 'bout them Brewers?  My favorite team is the Jays, but the Brewers have worked their way into being my 2nd favorite.  They are sooooo clutch!  On the evening when they clinched a playoff berth, they fell behind the Cards 6-1, had to score 3 runs in the 9th inning to tie the game, fell behind 9-8 in the 10th, and pulled out the 10-9 win with a walk off hit by little known Andruw Monasterio.    Best record in MLB!

    Well, another worthless stat..total QBR

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    5 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

    If that’s what the analytics say then they need to invent an entirely new formula for Josh Allen because he continues to defy the odds. I understand your point, but you won’t even consider mine.
     

    You have a 2 time MVP QB and a HOF RB. All you need is 3 yards to pick up the first down and ice the game. Your offense has been successful albeit an uncharacteristical (idk if that’s even a Fing word) fumble by Henry and a couple stalled drives.
     

    Your other option is to kick to a red hot Bills offense who just put up nearly 250 yards of offense on you in ONE quarter and you’re  on the ROAD. Come on, man. 🤦‍♂️ 

     

    Agree.  I don't know if Harbaugh lost confidence in his offense or if he had too much confidence in his defense.  Maybe his choice to punt was just a knee-jerk reaction.   

     

    The Ravens, ie, Henry, were running at will over the Bills defense.  Lamar escaped the Bills pass rush at least twice for big yardage plus some other shorter runs.   It was highly unlikely that the Bills defense could have stopped Henry or even Lamar from getting three yards.  OTOH, the Ravens D was struggling and needed help from a bad spot to stop Allen. 

     

    Moreover, even if the Ravens failed to make the first down, they could have run the clock down to less than a minute with no time outs.  Giving Allen -- and most top NFL QBs -- more than a minute to take their team down the field for a potential game winning kick is asking to lose because you're counting on the kicker to miss.  It happens regularly when good teams face this situation.  As it was, even without time outs, the Bills moved downfield so fast that they had time to kneel twice before kicking the game winner.  

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    Have the Jets ever felt like a real rival?

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    3 hours ago, chris heff said:

    I lived in NYC for a number of years of years, also spent summers and then lived for a few years in the Hamptons. New Yorkers have a right to love that City, it is a microcosm of who we are. The Borough of Queens is the most diverse place on the planet. When I first moved to NYC a Cab driver asked me how long I’d been in New York, I told him a few months, he said “when you’ve lived here for six months you’re a New Yorker, welcome to The City, good luck.”  Today especially, fandom aside, let’s show some love and respect. 
     

     

    I always found people who actually live/lived in the city to generally be really nice.  It's the Long Islanders who tend to give New Yorkers a bad name.   Too many act like they're better than everyone else simply because they live near NYC ... especially when they decide to go to college Upstate.  

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