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  1. 2 hours ago, mannc said:

    I'm really happy that they've put all their eggs in the Aaron Rodgers basket again...I'm very confident that it's going to blow up in their face--again.  I will say though, that the Jets' defense is a problem for the Bills and no matter how bad their offense is, they won't be an easy out for us.  

    ^^^

    2 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

    That defense makes it believable that they can beat the Bills so with a healthy offense, I'm a little concerned. 

    ^^^

    1 hour ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said:

    New England is dangerous too

     

    Every divisional game is tough, and games against the perennial bottom feeder divisional rivals are especially for dominant divisional leaders because beating the Bills or Chiefs is the poorer divisional rivals seasonal highlight.  

     

    1 hour ago, Gregg said:

     

    If this happens, then they will clean house. Johnson already said he is not happy with how things are going. He didn't issue a playoff mandate, but it basically is one. Another losing season and JD and Saleh are gone.

     

    Rinse and repeat.  

     

    1 hour ago, ngbills said:

    Who knows. But they have improved on paper and were 7-10 last year with Zach Wilson, Trevor Siemian and Tim Boyle. Does a improved roster and full season of Rodgers get them from 7 wins to 11 or 12? Not out of the question. 

     

    As somebody else posted, I'll believe it when I see it. 

  2. 1 hour ago, krf139 said:

    Living in Connecticut, I have no idea how I am going to listen to sports talk radio for the next 5+ months talking about how great the Jets are going to be.  With baseball season a week away, the talk on WFAN this morning has been all Jets.  The Jets have won nothing, haven't made the playoffs, have a highly suspect front office and coaching staff - yet everyone talks about them being a real threat to win the Super Bowl. 

     

    Here's Boomer Esiason talking about how they've moved past the Bills.

     

     

     

    LOL.   I don't know of any other team that has been picked so many times to win the Super Bowl by media mavens and their fan base in the off season only to fail to even make the playoffs as the Jests.   The Jests haven't even made the playoffs since 2010 when Rex Ryan coached guys like Darelle Revis, Mark Sanchez, LaDainian Tomlinson, and Braylon Edwards.   They've had 1 winning season and haven't had a winning season since 2015.

  3. 2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

    Agree.  When have the Bills ever not been able to attract free agents?  Oddly it's been players like Kelly and Cousineau that were the top draft picks that chose not to play in Buffalo. I don't think weather factored into either of those decisions.

     

    Many of the Bills first round picks after the AFL/NFL merger in 1966, held out ... starting out with OJ Simpson, first pick in the 1969,  Cousineau, #1 pick in 1979, and Bruce Smith, the #1 pick in the 1985 draft.   Cousineau played in the CFL until the Bills' rights expired and allowed him to sign with the Browns.   Kelly chose to play in the USFL and finally signed after the USFL folded.   The primary reason for all of these hold-outs was money first and the Bills organization second since the Bills were largely uncompetive for most of the 1970s as well as in the 1980s after Chuck Knox departed and before Marv Levy was hired as HC.

     

  4. I find it interesting that a thread about "The 60s Music" doesn't mention Bob Dylan whose folk songs became anthems for the civil rights and anti-war movements  or the Beatles who had a profound influence on American music, including sparking the "British Invasion" of the US music. 

  5. 5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

    It can get cold everywhere. It will be cold and crappy in Buffalo from November to the end of the season.

     

    Chicago is building a dome. Smart. Buffalo is stupid.

     

    Teams that play in the domes frequently have trouble winning when they play outside, especially in the playoffs.

     

    2 hours ago, Since1981 said:

    totally agree. A draftee can deal with it. Where I think the problem happens when 2 places are 50/50 coin flip FA. All things being equal WR/QB FA would not want blizzard conditions. It's why I strongly believe WR/QB for BUF has to be (forcibly) drafted vs. FA. Defense/OL blizzards for FA less so.

     

    I disagree.  Top FAs look at the compensation and the organization before they consider weather in potential landing sites.   I think that the Bills would have no trouble attracting top FA WRs if they pursued one.  I suspect that most NFL WRs would love to have Josh Allen throwing them the ball even in cold weather.  

     

  6. 1 hour ago, BaaadThingsMan said:

    I agree, but sadly they are looked upon as role models for plenty of today's youth. 

     

    I won't get into the reasons why. 

     

    The NFL doesn't even acknowledge that some of their players are not held accountable for their actions and instead are celebrated for what they can do on a football field. 

     

    It's an NFL problem in my opinion. One that needs to be fixed.

     

    I think that people in general -- not just people today or just people in the US --  have this inclination to assume that somebody who excels in some field or endeavor is virtuous in his/her private life.   We tend to forget that physical ability or scientific skill and understanding or artistic or literary talent or political acumen doesn't necessarily translate into a person's character/personality.

     

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  7. 16 hours ago, BBFL said:


    Like anyone in trouble consistently, they have their part to play. But regarding his relationships and having done some simple looking into it due to the stories; seems like these women take him for a sucker and pay day. 


    No wonder he tried burning his house down. Allegedly. 

     

    It may very well be that the Cheetah unconsciously picks those kinds of women, too.  Some people are attracted to individuals who are really poison for them.  They gravitate towards people who abuse them or cheat on them or gamble or drink to excess or are mentally unstable etc while ignoring people who treat them decently, don't have vices and/or are mentally stable.  They can't seem to help themselves.  

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  8. 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

     

    You think the Bears fans would be pissed to get Caleb Williams over Justin Fields?

     

    At first they'll be ecstatic, but maybe in the future not so much.  Half of all QBs drafted in the first round are disappointments if not outright busts.

     

    Moreover, the last USC QB to become a successful NFL QB was 20 plus years ago despite the fact that probably more USC QBs have been drafted at the top of the first round than any other school.  

    2018 -   #3 - Sam Darnold 

    2009  -  #5 - Mark Sanchez

    2006 - #10 - Matt Leinart

    2003 -   #1 - Carson Palmer

     

    PS: other USC QBs haven't been outstanding since 2003 either:

    2016 Cody Kessler        4th round

    2013 Matt Barkley         3rd round

    2008 John David Booty 5th round

    2005 Matt Cassel          7th round

  9. 15 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

    Yep but I mean to say it seems like they signed Wilson to be the starter and if they make it a real competition then I don't think he will be. Fields is what Wilson used to be 5 years ago

     

    When I heard that the Stillers traded for Fields, I thought that they had acquired another QB who would fit whatever offense they were planning in Pittsburgh.  Wilson's success in Seattle was always anchored by a stout defense, a strong running game, and a quick-strike passing game.   The Stillers have the stout defense and the strong running game.  They need Wilson to give them that nice long ball he had with Seattle as well as the good decisions and leadership that made him a starter as a rookie.

     

    I think that Wilson's decision-making and leadership will likely give him the edge over Fields for this coming season.   From what I've seen of Fields, he's physically very much like Wilson in his prime, so I think that Pittsburgh is thinking/hoping that working with Wilson and better coaching will enable Fields to become significantly better.

     

    2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

     

    flailing

     

    I disagreed with your post because "flailing" implies trying and failing, but IMO the Bills weren't really trying to win football games.  I don't believe that Bills were seriously interested in winning football games after Bill Polian was fired.  With the departure of John Butler and AJ Smith for San Diego, the Bills entered "The Drought" because Ralph Wilson increasingly put profits ahead of winning football games.  That didn't change until after the Pegulas became the owners.

     

     

  10. 12 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:


    It’s all just flailing.  
     

    i think Wilson will surprise.  If he doesn’t, bringing in Fields to resurrect the moribund QB position in Pittsburgh is as bad a decision as it was in Chicago

     

     

    If a team doesn't find itself a franchise QB -- somebody on the level of Flacco or Cousins in their prime or a Tua or Purdy -- they have virtually no shot at anything beyond maybe backing into a wildcard berth and being 1 and done.   Statistically, about half of the QBs taken in the first round of any draft fail to become franchise QBs despite being given every opportunity (sometimes multiple ones) to do so.  For QBs taken on Day 2 or 3 of the draft, the chances are miniscule.   Finding a franchise QB is finding the proverbial needle in a haystack, which is why teams like the Browns and Broncos mortgaged their futures to grab "proven" ones.

     

    The Stillers have grabbed a "proven" QB as well as a young QB who has shown some flashes for practically nothing in terms of what other teams have spent to acquire one of either type.   It may not work out but if it doesn't, they aren't shackled by their gambles. 

     

    I always liked Russell Wilson, so I hope that you are right.    I would like to see Russ take the Stillers (my second favorite team) to the AFC Conference Championship game only to lose to the Bills in January.

  11. 1 minute ago, Green Lightning said:

    True. And jockeying draft picks to 

    Find QB!

     

    Truth.   :thumbsup:   Look at the Jests ... it's been about a quarter of a century since they hit on a decent franchise QB in the first round (or any round) with Chad Pennington taken #18 in 2000 (the same draft that produced Mike Vick and Tom Brady) who couldn't stay healthy ...   and about 60 years since they drafted a first round QB who was a bonafide franchise QB (Joe Namath) ... and their current QB is 40-years-old and thinking about running for VP!

  12. 6 hours ago, Green Lightning said:

    Fish and Jests spending big in FA. Obviously they think we are less and they are more at this point. If it weren't for JA17, they probably be right.

     

    If the Bills didn't have Allen, they would have lots more cap space, wouldn't they?

  13. 15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

    lol Steelers.

     

    their QB room since Big Ben left…..

     

    What is there to LOL about?  They don't have a good enough position in the draft to get a top QB, and they don't have enough draft capital to move up.  They signed a FA QB who was once considered a shoo-in for the HOF on a cheap, prove-it deal, and then they traded a next-to-nothing to get a former first round QB who seems to have at least the potential to be a decent NFL starter, which their former starting QB lacked.    They've improve their QB situation significantly with hardly any impact to their cap space.  

     

     

    11 minutes ago, BBFL said:


    Hey man, at least they’re consistently trying to find an answer instead of acquiring a guy and riding it out way too long. 
     

    At least they didn’t do the Denver way and give up insane premium assets to just cut ties before 2 seasons are up. 

     

    Exactly.   I think it's a brilliant solution to the situation that the Steelers found themselves in when it became apparent that Pickett, like about half of QBs drafted in the first round, wasn't starter material.

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  14. 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

       I am for the most part quite pleased with the Bills turnaround since Beane and McDermott got here, who wouldn’t be? But imo this single top WR in six going on seven drafts is not what one could call proactive, especially when your QB is Josh Allen, again, jmo. 

     

    I'm assuming that you mean the Bills have only used 1 first round draft pick on a WR.  That's a fair criticism.  

     

    For myself, I'm not particularly interested on where the Bills get their weapons nor am I particularly attached to official positions.  IMO, you have to consider both RB James Cook (2022 2nd round) and TE Dalton Kincaid (2023 1st round) as serious weapons in Allen's arsenal.   I do think that the Bills need to add a fast WR to stretch the field, something that the Bills haven't had recently, so I would like to see them draft a WR in the first or second round, especially because this WR class is so deep.

  15. 10 hours ago, PBF81 said:

     

    Has there been a lot of criticism of Beane in these threads?  

    I  haven't criticized Beane at all in 2024 so far, but let's be honest, whatever situation that we're in, this has been his roster for 6 drafts going on 7 now.  

     

    So if people are critical, Beane would seem to be the core person to direct their discontent, no?  

     

    Since we're on the topic however, if there's one reason to consider criticizing him, wouldn't it be the WR situation?  We haven't had a season yet on his watch where people here have been satisfied with our WRs as an entire unit.  

     

    Now we're heading into a draft with arguably one of the weakest WR situations we've had since when, 2019?  The consensus opinion here is that Diggs has lost a step and is no longer a solid #1.  We have no #2, only Shakir in the slot, now Samuel and Hollins to compete with him, neither having held down a #2 spot well before.  

     

    Beane hasn't drafted a WR on days 1 or 2 on his 6-year draft watch.  Isn't that worthy of criticism?  Not necessarily suggestive that he should be fired or anything, but certainly something that is an issue due to his management of the roster, no?  

     

    Simply playing a little devil's advocate.  People point out a lot of things wrong with our team, but it's never anyone's fault.  

     

     

     

    Criticism that's based on reality is valid, but much of the criticism of Beane/McDermott recently hasn't been based on facts but rather on posters' untrue perceptions or ignorance.   Check out the thread on the Mack Hollins signing for criticism that descended into crucification of Beane based on a single poster's ignorance, but there have been plenty of others.  

     

    I wasn't aiming at you when I originally posted in this thread, but your criticism of Beane in the bolded sentence above is both unfair and disingenuous -- and certainly unworthy of criticism.   While it is technically true that Beane hasn't drafted a WR in rounds 1 or 2, he did use a first round draft pick to acquire Stephon Diggs.

     

    2 hours ago, PBF81 said:

     

    The biggest takeaway implied by your post is that they need to plan for the time when Diggs is not here, not react to his departure as an afterthought once it occurs.  

     

     

    ^^^

    2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

    Be proactive, not reactive. 

     

    Oh, you guys mean like  ...

    • Collecting draft capital and doing due diligence so that the Bills could not only move up in the 2018 draft to take a QB but to take the right QB? 
    • Hiring Brian Daboll and then adding Ken Dorsey to develop Josh Allen into a generational QB talent? 
    • Trading for Stephon Diggs?
    • Drafting Terrel Bernard in 2022 to replace Tremaine Edmunds?  
    • Trading for Rasul Douglas at the trade deadline because he knew that he wasn't going to keep White in 2024?
  16. 7 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

    When I look at the roster I see 40 slots pretty much locked in already for next season.  Of those 40 I see 5 guys who could potentially get cut (Martin, Shorter, Anderson, Van Denmark and Spector), with Martin being the most vulnerable. 

     

    The only starting job still up for grabs are the replacements for Davis and Poyer at WR & S respectively. 

     

    I think Beane's biggest remain move before the draft will be getting a replacement for Poyer (I'm assuming the Rapp is Hyde's replacement).  Sadly, the FA safety market is getting pretty thin.  How much for Quandre Diggs on a 1 yr deal?

     

    Could Beane still be looking to add a significant piece the defensive front?  

     

     

     

    Isn't it ironic that you felt compelled to start this thread to push your hate for Brandon Beane and Sean McDermott while the Bills were finalizing the deal for Curtis Samuel?

     

    6 hours ago, Sweats said:

    As far as FA goes, you can pretty well put that baby to bed.

    It's been a long, longgggggggg time since i've looked forward this much to a draft. I've got a feeling Beane is going to bundle up some picks and wheel and deal.

     

    I guess the Bills aren't going to bed early on this FA period.   IIRC, Beane & Company keep busy throughout the preseason and during the season (hello, Rasul Douglas!)

     

    6 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

    IMO Beane may look to do Armstead & Samuel

     

    Winner, winner!  Chicken dinner!

     

     

    31 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

     

    The ridiculous criticism of Brandon Beane here is what is concerning. 

    It just shows that some people JUST DON'T HAVE the ability to critically think about anything.

     

    The last 3-4 days, all I hear is whining and crying that we don't have the money to be hugely active in Free Agency.  We need to make a big splash to get over the hump and can't.  They say this is proof that Beane has "mismanaged" the salary cap, and totally SUCKS as a GM.

     

    But what bad contracts are draining away the Bills cap space?  The most obvious one is of course Von Miller... which ironically is the ONLY big FA splash Beane has made in the past 3-4 years!!!!   His goal was to get over the hump against the Kansas City Chiefs.  So is Beane really stupid for wasting money on an overpaid Free Agent, or is he really stupid for sitting on his hands and waiting for bargains?????  Which one is it?  Make up your minds!!!

     

    Other people are upset we had to release veterans like Tre White, Jordan Poyer, Mitch Morse, etc. to get under the cap.  But the same people are somehow upset we CAN'T get rid of Stefon Diggs this year because of his dead cap.  So do we want Beane to cut aging veterans or not???  Which one is it?  Make up your minds!!!

     

    Drafting well and having good players puts every team in salary cap trouble eventually.  Not counting Sean McDermott's first draft (which netted us Tre White, Dion Dawkins and Matt Milano), we have now seen three of Beane's drafts reach the expiration of their rookie contracts.  Out of the 23 players he picked, 13 are starting for either the Bills or another team.  That's pretty good.  Here is the list:  

    - Josh Allen, Taron Johnson, Ed Oliver, Dawson Knox, AJ Epenesa and Tyler Bass are starters for us.

    - Tremaine Edmunds, Harrison Phillips, Wyatt Teller, Devin Singletary, Zack Moss, Gabe Davis and Dane Jackson are starting for other NFL teams.  

     

    :thumbsup:

     

    I don't get the hatred for Beane, either.    At worse, he's the second best GM the Bills have ever had, and since he's still actively managing the Bills, he may surpass Bill Polian by winning a Super Bowl. 

     

    His drafting has been excellent despite the whining of his detractors.  He wheeled and dealed to move up in the draft to grab Josh Allen, a generational talent at QB.  He pulled off the trade to give Allen his WR1, Stephon Diggs.  None of his first round picks have been busts, although a couple haven't been quite good enough.  Even among his 2nd round picks, I think only two, Cody Ford and Boogie Basham, have been outright busts.  Compare that to the drafting records of other GMs around the NFL in recent years.  

     

    What I like best is that Beane, though, is his forward thinking; he's not making making moves willy-nilly but prepares for future moves, and keeps his options open. He always has a plan or he comes up with a good one on the fly if necessary.  He had Terrel Bernard ready to replace Tremaine Edmunds in 2023.   He traded for Rasul Douglas to replace the injured Tre White whom he knew in October, 2023 he wasn't going to keep for 2024.  Beane's detractors keep pushing the image that Beane doesn't know what he's doing but reality says that the Bills GM has his proverbial ducks all in a proverbial row.   

  17. 27 minutes ago, Rigotz said:


    I can’t believe I’m actually arguing this.

     

    The highest paid center in the league makes $13.5M per year and plays for the Chargers. The other top 5 play for the Saints, Titans, Lions, and Colts. The others make less than $10M per year. Are those teams are all elite?

     

    There are 13 Left Tackles who make more than $13.5M per year and the highest paid makes $25M per year.

     

    I appreciate a hot take, but this one is completely wrong and you’re making it up as you go.

     

    Interior OLers (OGs and Cs) just don't get paid as much as OTs, especially LTs, so  salary comparisons between the two OL groups are irrelevant. 

     

    I do agree, though, that having an elite C is not a necessity for a good offense, but then neither is simply having an elite LT.  A good, even an excellent, OL doesn't necessarily need to have any elite players if all of the players are good or very good, fit the blocking schemes that team uses, and work well together because good OLs frequently are better than the sum of their individual parts.  

     

     

  18. 3 hours ago, Billl said:

    Gabe Davis had 27 regular season TD receptions and 6 more in the postseason while earning a total of just under $4 million.  How have so many convinced themselves that losing him is addition by subtraction?  

     

    If Gabe Davis would continue to play for 4th-round rookie pay, he'd still on the Bills.  He signed a contract with the Jags for about $50 million for 3 years.  I really like Davis, but he's not a good enough WR to be worth that even if there wasn't a cap.  

     

    2 hours ago, mrags said:

    That’s cute. Are you as cute and witty in real life too? Or just your online teaching fantasies? 
     

    Hollins is not good. Sherfield and Harty weren’t good either. And everyone talked about them like people are talking about Hollins now. And next year this time we’ll have cut Hollins because he sucked just as bad as his predecessors and here we will be, looking for actual talent at the position again. 

     

    You still haven't provided the name of a single "better" WR who would also play ST for about the cost of Hollins or Sherfield/Harty.

     

    FTR, I was a junior high teacher prior to going into IT where I spent 30 years designing and programming computer systems for educational and social services organizations, so I have lots of experience dealing with snot-nosed kids who think that they can bluff their way through their ignorance, whether in a classroom or production meeting, or online.

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  19. 5 hours ago, mrags said:

    Well, let’s add the $2m from this signing and bunch it with all the other stupid $2m signings they have and see how much we can come up with. I’d be willing to bet that at the end you’d have at least $10-14m you could have spent on a decent FA WR or any other position for that matter. Meanwhile, your special teams suck anyway, just like it did last year, so no loss, no gain. And you give a few undrafted rookie FAs a chance to make the roster. Problem solved.

     

    In one of my previous lives as a teacher, I'd give you a 0 on this essay answer because you failed to answer the question posed, which was to actually name some available WRs.

     

    5 hours ago, Toyo321 said:

    I would rather pay someone after free agency or after training camp.  It sure would not cost us $3 Mil then for a special teams player / WR #5 or #6.

     

    Even a drafted 5th or 6th round guy would be cheaper than this.

     

    Maybe that's how it works in Madden but not in real life, dude.   Hollins' value is that he's a good STer who plays gunner, a position that every team with playoff expectations needs to fill with a competent player not just some random body.  That he may be able to catch some passes is a bonus.

     

     

     

  20. 4 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

    Beane is unreal at signing crap players when we need impact players at the position.  Especially this year with money being so tight.

     

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    What "impact" WRs would you suggest for the money the Bills have to spend????    Keep in mind that the Bills have to have STers, and not all "impact" players are interested in playing ST even if they are willing to take less money to play for a contender.

  21. 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

    No, a rebuild year because we created several large holes with massive holes already on the roster and we have not been serious about replacing them. We can't get a WR2 in the draft because McD doesn't play rookies. Unless there's a trade (unlikely), Hollins is your #2 for at least 6 games.

     

    You might want to fact check your statements before you post them in the future.

     

    All of the Bills' first round picks started as rookies:

    • Tre White - started all 16 games as a rookie
    • Josh Allen - started 11 games as a rookie
    • Tremaine Edmunds - started all 15 games he played  as a rookie
    • Ed Oliver - started 7 games as a rookie
    • Greg Rosseau - started all 17 games as a rookie
    • Kaiir Elam - started 6 games as a rookie
    • Dalton Kincaid  - started 11 games as a rookie

    Moreover, these 2nd rounders started as rookies:

    • Dion Dawkins - started 11 games as a rookie
    • Cody Ford - started 15 games as a rookie
    • A.J. Epenesa - started 1 game as a rookie
    • O'Cyrus Torrence - started all 17 games as a rookie

    Here are the other rookies who have started for the Bills as rookies:

    • Spencer Brown - started 10 games as a rookie (3rd rounder)
    • Devin Singletary - started 8 games as a rookie  (3rd rounder)
    • Taron Johnson - started 2 games as a rookie (4th rounder)
    • Matt Milano - started 5 games as a rookie (5th rounder)
    • Christian Benford - started 5 games as a rookie (6th rounder)

     

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