thenorthremembers
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the Manziel comparison has been made by a lot of college football experts. he's a small guy that does well in a college spread offense, but that doesn't translate to the NFL. also, he's a loose cannon off the field and likes to party. after what we saw from Manziel, i wouldn't be surprised if some teams took Mayfield completely off their board.
What are Josh Rosen's character concerns? That he had a hot tub in his dorm room and he likes to read and talk about politics? Otherwise he's a stand up guy from a well-to-do family and was the top rated QB in the nation coming out of high school. Mayfield wasnt' even recruited, had to walk on, quit school because he was being a cry baby about the coach not guaranteeing a starting job for him (who is ever guaranteed a job?), transferred without even talking to the coaches involved and had to sit out a year (poor judgement), and he was tackled by police trying to run away after public intoxication (the typical weekend for him I've heard). Mayfield is an arrogant little poo. I'd be surprised if he even made an NFL roster let alone be a starting QB in this league
guys like him and Manziel and Chad Kelly don't make it in professional sports because you have to be just that...professional
I feel like we may have had this exact discussion in another thread. Feel like you're generalizing about Mayfield being a loose cannon from one incident. The Manziel comparison to me is a bit lazy. Not every athletic "short" quarterback from a spread offense is Johnny Manziel. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, just feel like this one is wrong. Mayfield makes passes I dont think Manziel could have made. I'd love to see the comparison between Mayfield's and Manziel's average time between snap and throw. I think that would put the comparison to bed quickly.
When looking at both Mayfield and Rosen, simply put I think they both have jerk tendecies, but in terms of pure arrogance Mayfield is nowhere near Rosen. If you want to portray Rosen as a well read forward thinking person thats fine, but to me he comes across as a person who has very little clue about real life and comes across as immature and ignorant because of it. I dont get the sense he is a team first leader. But make no mistake about it, he has character issues. Its been well publicized he isnt well liked by his teammates, ala Connor Cook.
Also, think its a little early to put Chad Kelly in the same category as Manziel. Statsitically speaking its likely, but it could be for any number of reasons.
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He absolutely will not be a 1st round pick lol. He is very much Johnny Manziel 2.0 and teams won't make that mistake again. I know people around OU and he's a drunk and a jerk and he's definitely not even 6 feet tall. I wrote that before the Ohio State game and maybe that bumps him up a little and if he plays well rest of year he might be 2nd or 3rd round pick because teams are dumb and desperate. It will 100% not be the Bills though. You think McBeane would stake their careers on a guy with character concerns like this at the most important position? There's no chance.
Please explain the Manziel comparison outside of playing in a spread offense? Manziel was a dual threat QB. Mayfield is athletic but is so far from being a dual threat, he averages 22 rushing yards a game. His mobility is inside the pocket, does he scramble outside of the tackle box yes, but thats more akin to someone like Tyrod Taylor. Manziel was a sand lot football player.
The height thing remains to be seen, but standing next to a 6'2 reporter after last weeks game he wasn't dwarfed. Personally think Rosen's character concerns are much worse than Mayfields'.
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Easily my favorite player in college football right now. I dont think he can challenge Darnold as the #1QB in the class, just doesnt have the physical stature. However, I dont think its unfair to say he should be in the conversation for #2 with Mason Rudolph.
The Manziel comparisons are probably a bit unfair. Totally different animal. Manziel was extremely talented and may have been an amazing pro if he cared the least bit about football. Manziel also ran a lot, Mayfield doesnt do that nearly as well. Mayfield has also started a lot more games, including games against quality competition.
Manziel had Evans to throw it up to, Mayfield doesnt have a player like that. He is a throw first QB and I think he is incredibly underrated because of his height. Not saying it shouldnt be an issue, however Russell Wilson and Drew Brees are examples that it isnt always the rule.
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It felt different to me, but in the way where I wasnt excited to watch the game. I wanted to be, but for some reason couldnt get. I think it was because its the Jets, but overall I am not expecting a lot from this season.
Hoping the excitement comes back for the Carolina game.
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A win is a win. They have wideouts, they will use them. Gotta start taking it on a game by game basis and not overreact to the first one.
With that being said I unfollowed all the Blitz reporters when they made it 3 dollars a month. Not a lot of money, but the content doesnt justify it. Will only miss Carruci and Trepasso.
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I dont think the issue was ever not resigning TD Mike, the issue was not putting a higher round tender on him. Should have learned from the lesson the year before with Hogan.
To your point on Banyard, reminds me a lot of TD Mike. But he has to show he can hold onto the ball.
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Was hoping Peterman would change his number.
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Really like this signing. Didnt realize he was available.
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Can I ask, in all seriousness why he is a safe bet? He is below 60% career completion percentage and hasnt been a proven winner. Heard the exact same things about Hackenberg coming out, that his team was to fault. A good quarterback makes his team better. Just dont see it with Rosen
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Mason Rudolph, Baker Mayfield and Luke Falk all had great games though
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Said it many times on here, dont get the fascination with Rosen. His film doesnt lie he is inaccurate and doesnt win football games. Lots of excuses for this kid. 9 for 23 says it all.
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Mason Rudolph and Baker Mayfield were my favorites going into the season and they both showed out huge in week 1.
Darnold is a tough on to figure out huge wind up like Byron Leftwich but he is a winner.
Josh Allen has amazing arm talent some of the best Ive ever seen. Just not sure he is a legit NFL Qb. Think Rosen is 100% hype. His tape is about as average as they come, dont get the Rodgers comparisons with sub 60% completion percentage.
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Really like Mason Rudolph and feel like he will be the QB that starts climbing draft boards when the season starts. Also really like James Washington but feel like round three is a little low for him. As it stands right now, and its early, I'd expect him to go late round one.
I'd say the same for Chubb who is currently considered as a 1st round pick. Otherwise this looks good to me.
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They moved the ball I think once?
The problem with Manziel is that he can't improvise like he did in college. He literally would just throw it up to Evans and he would just out physical all the other DB's.
Now he has to learn the game, from the pocket, read coverages etc.....all things he needs to be committed to and put the time in. He wasn't willing to do that. He once showed up at a Browns practice so hungover he couldn't participate.
Losman is now an assistant coach for Clemson.
I have no idea what Edwards is doing.
Wasnt Edwards one of the designers of that interactive football simulator for NFL QB's aimed at showing real game scenarios to speed up development?
Pretty sure it was called the 3 and Out and focused heavily on unblocked corners and safeties coming unblocked off the edge.
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What I remember from that Browns game is they couldnt move the ball at all until they put Manziel in. If he cared about football at all during that time I think the worst he would have been was someone like Tyrod Taylor, he had the talent. Complete waste, but maybe he has a Flutie sort of comeback. You never know.
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Followed quickly by this:
The TSN report regarding the CFL’s Hamilton Tiger-Cats and quarterback Johnny Manziel is partially right, and its’ partially dead wrong.
Yes, the Tiger-Cats have given Manziel a workout. But, no, they haven’t decided that he’s not ready to resume his football career, due to “too many red flags” or otherwise.
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John Holacek
Antwoin Smith
Kurt Schultz
Jeff Burris
Angelo Crowell
George Wilson
Butch Rolle
Looking back over the roster I also found my least favorite Bill of all time. Bennie "Turnstyle" Anderson. Those olines in the Losman/Holcomb/Edwards time frame were just God awful.
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As soon as he became a suspect, Hernandez's contract was immediately terminated. I might be interpreting this wrong so correct me if I am...but you're not insinuating that the Pats knew of the murders and turned a blind eye until he was publicly named a suspect?
His contract was terminated when he became a suspect in the Odin Llyod deal. He was involved in a shooting prior to that, granted not a suspect in that shooting but they were aware of him being there. They were also aware of his ties to gang activity coming out of Florida. Pretty well documented that he liked to show off his gang related tattoos to his coaches.
They were aware of him being a bad guy, and the ties he had with unfavorable people. They turned a blind eye to that until it was obvious he was going to face charges.
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But keep in mind, this site also reported Ritchie kicked Dareus' ass in the parking lot of the Mongolian Buffet because he forgot the coupon...so there's that.
Makes sense. So where do I order my J.J. Nelson jersey?
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I think if they knew Hernandez had potential to be a part of a double homicide, I think it would have been different.
Also, did Hernandez get in trouble a lot while in New England?
I am pretty sure the murder in Boston happened while he was still a part of the team. They knew what he was capable of, and were also very aware of his gang ties when they drafted him. They didnt release him until it was readily apparent to the entire world he was a murderer.
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Guys, let's use logic here.
If the Bills traded for Nelson or any other Cardinal and they were transporting him back they would have announced the trade before the flight arrived. They would have been required to file with the league and it would have gotten out that way. Geez.
Agreed. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but Jordan Matthews arrived via Buffalo Airport and they send the private jet for JJ Nelson? Not likely. This is the only site that has any report of this being a possibility. Not going to hold my breath on this one.
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I have no idea what's going on but apparently you can win the Super Bowl with future draft picks.
Its clear the players currently on the roster couldnt win one, so you need draft picks to get the players who can. Part of the process.
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Chris Simms
Was this his younger brother Matt? The backwards throw?
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It's Robert Lee's fault. He caused all this.
I concur with this 100%. Should be moved to the UW-Oshkosh game asap.
Baker Mayfield...
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The good news is smart money is on both of us being right. Quarterback success rate in the NFL is something around 19% of those drafted.
Agree to disagree and wait to see how it turns out.