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    Bengals accuse Pats employee of videotaping their play calls

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    3 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:


     

    I will not absolve the Pats of Cheating or whatever they did in this issue, but there are a few massive issues with your take.

     

    First - the Browns were the home team and they were informed of the crew being on site and doing the filming.  The NFL and the Bengals should have been informed, but if the true intent was to get info about how advanced scouting works - they really only needed to get permission of the home team to have a camera in the booth.

     

    Second - what does an advance scout do - he records plays, signals, situations, anything that is going on that can prepare the team for the upcoming game.  Again not to believe the Pats, but if you are doing a discussion on all of that and you want to run video under the discussion- it would make perfect sense to film what he is looking at.  He is watching the Bengals sideline - that is what I would want running underneath so as he talks about his job - you can show what he is doing.

     

    The conspiracy that it just happens to be their upcoming opponent in the Bengals makes sense because that is where the advanced scout would be.  The advanced scout is not being sent to a team they are not playing - he is going to their next opponent to begin gather advanced intel - so that makes complete sense that it would occur at that game.

     

    Look - none of that is to say that this is not 100% a bull pucky lie to film upcoming opponents- I would not put that past the Pats, but it could also be 100% a true innocent mistake.  The issue is that NE does not - nor should they - get any benefit of the doubt because they have already done this and because this follows the exact pattern given in the past about how to handle this situation.

     

    The problem is I really do not know which it is and I am not sure how you could ever tell.  There is enough plausible deniability that this could go 100% either way.  The admission by the Pats was an acknowledgement that the film crew was wrong, but not that the football side did anything wrong.  The fact that this film crew - has been given permission previously to film the Pats sideline as they previewed other jobs blurs the line even more as they did not have an issue doing that - why is this different.

     

    I think in the end - the NFL should definitely punish the team - fairly heftily- but unless there is something connecting it to the football side - I do not punish Belichick.  A fine and loss of another pick - highest 1st rounder - as a start because ultimately they are responsible for the functionality of their crew, but if you find anything that shows knowledge of this and understanding from the football side - they should burn it down. 

    I suggest reading the chapter "Information at the Meteorological Stage" in the book Screened Out by Jean Baudrillard.

     

    https://monoskop.org/File:Baudrillard_Jean_Screened_Out_2002.pdf

    2019 Playoffs. 1st round

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    It seems that as long as the Ravens beat the Browns and the Saints beat the Titans, we would get in at 9-7. Also the Raiders have to lose one more, but they look terrible. So we are in a good position to get in. Obviously going 3-0 is the best! 

    Annoying ads during prime time NFL games

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    Strength training can help you increase bone strength and muscular fitness, and it can help you manage or lose weight. It can also improve your ability to do everyday activities.

     

    Aim to include strength training of all the major muscle groups into your fitness routine at least twice a week.

    Most fitness centers offer various resistance machines, free weights and other tools for strength training. But you don't need to invest in a gym membership or expensive equipment to reap the benefits of strength training.

     

    Hand-held weights or homemade weights — such as plastic soft drink bottles filled with water or sand — may work just as well. Resistance bands are another inexpensive option. Your own body weight counts, too. Try pushups, pullups, abdominal crunches and leg squats.

     

    The muscles in your abdomen, lower back and pelvis — known as your core muscles — help protect your back and connect upper and lower body movements. Core strength is a key element of a well-rounded fitness training program.

     

    Core exercises help train your muscles to brace the spine and enable you to use your upper and lower body muscles more effectively. So what counts as a core exercise? A core exercise is any exercise that uses the trunk of your body without support, such as bridges, planks, situps and fitness ball exercises.

    Roll call for officiating conspiracy believers

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    12 minutes ago, mattynh said:

    Or maybe there is no business plan that favors large markets and fans have a biased perception of their experiences. 

    Certainly possible. But as my examples show, there are objective conditions that drive capital. I understand deeply rooted inherent bias. But I do not need any bias to state that, for instance, logging displaces certain animal species. What mystifies our understanding is the layer of ideology that covers the objective conditions. 

     

    In the NFL, we know as a corporation, it seeks maximum profits. From that fact, we can see how their practices fulfill this aim. 

     

    Roll call for officiating conspiracy believers

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    4 hours ago, mattynh said:

     

    Who makes the business plan?  Who decides what steps to take to execute it?

     

    If the business plan was found/published publicly and shown to bias certain teams for financial gain would there(could there) be an impact in terms of loss revenue?  

    Good questions. 

     

    Overall, this is hard to prove. We really would have to rely on precedents set by other corporations and apply their business practice to the NFL. It seems that all levels of planning would keep plausible deniability in place. One document or plan would probably not emerge. Rather, the practice or plan would emerge or emerges from a set of circumstantial data. Take hiring of minorities in 1960s. You will not find a document or business plan that states: do not hire minorities. But you will see that minorities simply do not get hired, despite claims of the opposite, e.g. we are an equal opportunity employer. More explicitly related to profit is, let's say, oil companies.There will be no documents that state "we will displace this Native tribe or we will damage this ecosystem", but those things will happen and are implicit in business plans. So, employees (officials) simply understand the aims of the corporation and comply. Like a New York Times writer understands that they cannot write a story from a fascist or communist perspective because it will not be profitable or aligned with the politics of the paper and it will not get published. Sometimes when things like this are revealed, corporations do lose revenue.  

     

    So, it is an on going process of aims toward profit that are only revealed through somewhat long term study and an analysis of how corporations function. There is no single who, but rather a host of related forces that determine the central practice of the business. This is the beauty of bureaucracy and capitalism, but also this is what makes it so problematic. 

    SNF: Pats @ Texans

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    4 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:


    It’s the update to that FUBARed , what’s a Catch.

     

    Essentially, a RUNNING Football move is achieved when the Receiver catches and takes 3 steps. Makes an End Zone TD ATD, but also differentiates between Incomplete Pass and Fumble after the Catch.

    So two feet and control past the goal line is not enough?

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