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leonbus23

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  1. 1 hour ago, matter2003 said:

    How much did you expect in one offsesason with 9 new starters on offense and multiple new backups/reserves? I mean c'mon bro, let's be realistic here. I know it doesn't matter in Madden and you can just plug and play anyone and not suffer any dropoff but this is real life and it matters---a LOT.

    Nah. Teams turn around in one season with new players. In fact, it's the new players that turn the team around quickly. On top of that  some new players were veterans like Morse, Gore, Beasley and Brown. The fact is that the offense didn't show much most of this season. Whether it's Daboll or the players or a combo is certainly up for debate.

  2. 17 minutes ago, wppete said:


    Exactly this ☝?. The original thread that is linked here, was a discussion about Kraft, the owner of a NFL team being charged with a felony. Prostitution, human trafficking and possibly worse crimes. Has nothing to do with politics! it’s a 100% NFL topic! But certain people on here cannot take the fact the name Trump has come up in discussion (Kraft and Trump are boys, fact) so they must make the discussion go away. With this logic all you have to do is bring up the name Trump a few times and someone on here will get triggered and end all discussion. What a sad thing.

     

     

    The Clintons, Michelle Obama, Oprah, Stalin, Mao, Sarah Palin, and Baby Doc were all mentioned too. Trump and Epstein aren't the only ones who hang with Kraft. It's a global conspiracy!  TBD=Libral media. 

  3. I appreciated that they put some of the older era receivers like Warfield, etc., but the addition of Harrison and Moss over Tim Brown and T.O. is suspect. Owens and Brown put up better numbers than Moss. Harrison is not even a good guy, so it confused me. Maybe Moss is on so that Belecheat could talk about him as his player during the show. 

  4. 3 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:


     

    I will not absolve the Pats of Cheating or whatever they did in this issue, but there are a few massive issues with your take.

     

    First - the Browns were the home team and they were informed of the crew being on site and doing the filming.  The NFL and the Bengals should have been informed, but if the true intent was to get info about how advanced scouting works - they really only needed to get permission of the home team to have a camera in the booth.

     

    Second - what does an advance scout do - he records plays, signals, situations, anything that is going on that can prepare the team for the upcoming game.  Again not to believe the Pats, but if you are doing a discussion on all of that and you want to run video under the discussion- it would make perfect sense to film what he is looking at.  He is watching the Bengals sideline - that is what I would want running underneath so as he talks about his job - you can show what he is doing.

     

    The conspiracy that it just happens to be their upcoming opponent in the Bengals makes sense because that is where the advanced scout would be.  The advanced scout is not being sent to a team they are not playing - he is going to their next opponent to begin gather advanced intel - so that makes complete sense that it would occur at that game.

     

    Look - none of that is to say that this is not 100% a bull pucky lie to film upcoming opponents- I would not put that past the Pats, but it could also be 100% a true innocent mistake.  The issue is that NE does not - nor should they - get any benefit of the doubt because they have already done this and because this follows the exact pattern given in the past about how to handle this situation.

     

    The problem is I really do not know which it is and I am not sure how you could ever tell.  There is enough plausible deniability that this could go 100% either way.  The admission by the Pats was an acknowledgement that the film crew was wrong, but not that the football side did anything wrong.  The fact that this film crew - has been given permission previously to film the Pats sideline as they previewed other jobs blurs the line even more as they did not have an issue doing that - why is this different.

     

    I think in the end - the NFL should definitely punish the team - fairly heftily- but unless there is something connecting it to the football side - I do not punish Belichick.  A fine and loss of another pick - highest 1st rounder - as a start because ultimately they are responsible for the functionality of their crew, but if you find anything that shows knowledge of this and understanding from the football side - they should burn it down. 

    I suggest reading the chapter "Information at the Meteorological Stage" in the book Screened Out by Jean Baudrillard.

     

    https://monoskop.org/File:Baudrillard_Jean_Screened_Out_2002.pdf

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