ChiGoose

Like, how do you even get through your day? You apparently cannot read and you believe just the absolute dumbest crap. Also, it’s weird how obsessed with me you are. I don’t get it. Get a life, dude. Your brain is dying from your time on this board.

…they released Patel’s testimony. I was right. I never committed to September because I didn’t know if things would get delayed. Which they did because your boy was such an ####### criminal that everyone wanted to come forward to talk about him. Look, I’m sorry you have the reading comprehension skills of a 1st grader but that’s your problem, not mine. Maybe spend less time on this forum and more time touching grass.

The committee said that they planned to release the transcripts in September but then so many people came forth with evidence of Trump being a lunatic that they had to delay. I’m sorry that your boy crimes so much that it creates a deluge of people tattling on him. I guess somehow in you’re feeble mind, that’s my fault. Maybe the reason they delayed is that they needed more time to make Damar Hamlin’s body double. That makes about as much sense as anything you’ve ever said.

Look, I get it. Your brain is rotted and you can’t figure out facts from fiction. know it’s tough buddy, but keep trying. Maybe someday you’ll say something intelligent. Maybe.

The next true thing you say will be the first.

Don’t put words in my mouth just because you can’t explain your own theory of the case.

So you think Pence should be indicted then? So Biden took the documents intentionally and then suddenly decided he wanted to hurt himself politically by telling on himself? This is what we are going with as the most logical explanation?

It’s literally the reason why someone does or doesn’t get charged. It’s why Biden and Pence will not be indicted but Trump probably will be.

He was. He was handing polling data to the Russians who could then use it to target their IRA operations. But I guess that all the MAGA people here would be totally fine if Hillary had given polling data to the Chinese so that they could better help her. I mean, Trump’s campaign did it, so it must be fine.

Good. The debt ceiling is dumb and threatening to breach it for political reasons is even dumber. Don’t negotiate with hostage takers and let the American public see that the GOP wants to tank the US economy.

You still haven’t answered my question: If Biden did this intentionally and had been getting away with it for years, why would he suddenly turn himself in? Also, do you believe Pence took the documents intentionally?

If you go to jail in that scenario, you have hired a terrible attorney.

Look, I don’t particularly care for Biden. He’s… fine. If he took the documents intentionally, then he should be prosecuted. But I’m looking at the fact that apparently every government employee just walks out of the building with classified documents; and the fact that Biden volunteered that he had docs when nobody knew he did, had his people do a search and invited the feds to do a search, and I have a bit of trouble assuming he took them on purpose. Again, if he did, he should be indicted. I’m glad the special counsel investigating this is a strong conservative. I feel like he’ll do everything he can to get Biden. If he does, Biden probably deserves it. If he doesn’t, then it’s almost certainly accidental spillage. We’ll see what happens but I still feel like Biden and Pence are going to be in the clear.

Only top secret documents require a SCIF. Secret and confidential documents can be viewed outside of a SCIF. So the docs that look really bad for Biden are the ten with top secret classification. Lower classified documents (apparently) can get picked up with non-classified documents unintentional. Do you think Pence took the documents intentionally?

I’m asking honestly, what’s your theory of the case here? Why go to the feds if this was intentional and they weren’t already aware. My theory is simply that whoever packed up his offices grabbed documents they shouldn’t have. Seems like that’s the case with Pence. I think Jimmy Carter walked away with government docs accidentally too. If Biden took them intentionally and they can prove that, he should be indicted. Barring a change in facts, I just don’t see that as the likely outcome here. Biden and Pence appear to be in the same bucket with what we know at this stage.

Then why suddenly decide to tell on yourself? And then conduct a search and turn over more documents. If this has been intentional and he’d been getting away with it for years, why would he tell the Feds about it? He informed the government immediately. Same day they were discovered, I believe.

I don’t know. That’s what you have an investigation for. Pence says that his documents were inadvertently packed with his stuff. Maybe it’s the same with Biden. Maybe it’s not. We’ll see. Clearly the controls around classified documents aren’t effective. So it’s your contention that the bureaucracy is controlling everything and Biden isn’t actually president? Who is in charge of the bureaucracy? Who is making those decisions?

Ah, the good old “Deep State” theory. Can’t possibly be that Trump wanted to take documents while Biden and Pence (or their staff) were careless. Nope, there’s a secret cabal that’s so incredibly powerful that they control everything. Yep, that makes more sense than the simplest explanations that all of the evidence already points to.

The investigation was already well under way before the Steele Dossier. Only some of the Carter Page warrants were deemed improper, others were fine. And in any case, Page was a minor part of the overall investigation. So I guess the truth is whatever you say it is, facts be damned.

Heres an idea: read the reports. Or just the executive summaries. Or just the introduction. Or just the freaking table of contents. Willful ignorance is wild.

C’mon man. That’s been debunked time and time again. I don’t know where you get your news but it must be terrible.

For anyone interested in actually learning the truth instead of spewing nonsense, you can check the reports yourself and see both that the Steele Dossier was not the center of the investigations and that the Trump campaign was attempting to work with the Russians to win the election. Senate Intelligence Report on Russia Mueller Report on Russia

The Trump campaign actively sought assistance from Russia to win the election. They met to try to get oppo info, they shared polling data, they tried to set up a secret back channel so they could communicate with the Russians without anyone finding out. But all that’s fine because he’s your guy, right? And you’d be totally fine if other candidates did it too, right?

They looked into it, found most of it to not be credible and moved on to the other heaps of evidence. I get that it’s fun to just read the news that confirms your priors but when we’re talking about investigations that have public reports, why wouldn’t you just read those instead of insisting on being wrong?

It absolutely did not. The Senate Intelligence report and the Mueller Report are both public. You can go check them for yourself but you’re not going to find a ton about the Steele Dossier because it wasn’t a central part of the investigations. The media blew up to be way bigger than it was.