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I wonder how much it will eventually end up costing. I mean, it is a scam in so many ways but the cost prediction v. actual cost might help people see how horrid the idea was.
That said, the high-speed to Vegas will be neat, and a good project to compare to the LA/SF kerfuffle.
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This is what happens when people claim everything is racist or oppressive. Kaepernick Syndrome.
Then again, Id like to see the vidya of him being taken down. Seriously, cops are dicks *10 when their is an active shooter. Arguably, rightfully so, though.
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I think his alcoholism embodied the Bills and their fans over the past 18 year playoff drought. If anyone should be put on the wall, it is that guy. He really was to Buffalo as Manziel was to Cleveland, an accurate representation of an era.
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"Breaking news: the blacks have traded Ray Lewis for Gregg Popovich. Ben Carson, considered untradeable, has been cut."
So, who gets Talcum X?
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Because there is no rational explanation to ridicule them. Only ignorance and a failure to try and understand the issue.
I suppose breaking it down to something simple may help you understand why the majority of the country is against this form of protest.
Pretend you're in Mexico watching a football game, and all the Mexicans stand for their Anthem. Would you do it too? You know, as a way to be RESPECTFUL to the Mexican tradition and country identity.
Now if you decide to not show respect, and ignore the Anthem are you showing disrespect? Keep in mind it is possible to show disrespect through inaction. Perhaps, it is disrespectful to a degree. (One reason I really didn't mind Shady stretching during the Anthem)
Now, let's take this to a new level and instead of some sort of inaction, you decide to dab during the Amthem, overtly mocking the tradition because you believe the Mexican Government is corrupt. Is the action disrespectful? Yes, it most certainly is the opposite of showing RESPECT, which would be to stand regular-like with your hat removed.
I suppose none of the point matters unless you agree that you would probably stand in a foreign country, during their Anthem, to show respect.
*Yes, things can be disrespectful even if you claim your intentions are good. Your position on that is absurd. I mean, is beating women for charity not disrespectful? Not to say this is that absurd, just your logic.
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Pretty absurd. I'd like to put a camera on each one of these mouth-breathers, because I'm willing to bet 99.9% of them will forget their "outrage" pretty quickly and be watching their teams on Sunday.
So silly.
NFL viewership is down like 11% from last year. Just saying, you shouldn't be so against their peaceful protest.
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I honestly think not all of them know. I have seen terms as general as "equality" and "systematic racism" being thrown around. Like being specific is that hard? Why can't they be specific?
Because, they would be proven wrong too easily and exposed as the fools a lot of them are.
I mean, "the current genocide in Burma" is an example of a specific "cause." "Equality" or "oppression of black people" without any specifics or proof is merely being vague enough to have absolutely no argument. "I stand for freedom" "I believe in civil rights" and stuff like that is good to stand for and all, but is far too vague to really be "discussed" or debated.
Bottom line, Kaep said he was protesting a fudge-ton of things, one of which was the police. Problem with the whole police thing is that data shows he is full of poop, in many ways. I mean, there is evidence to show he is flat out wrong.
If the protest was for a myriad of other things, which could be based on race, it would make sense. "Disproportionately born to poverty" is a good example of a legitimate issue. Who knows, perhaps the practicalityof that issue would be too difficult to "protest" since it is something these millionaires can and should do something about. I mean, there is a strong correlation between poverty and run-ins with the police.
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read the comments under the video his actions on game day were what he believes. He is in fear of getting cut now he must conform to the liberal globalist agenda and play identity politics. He's like a Isis captured hostage reading a statement. So sad this country is falling apart.
He was the only one who was brave this week. Now Tomlin gets to poop on the Army Vet because of some "protest" the subject of which the protesters are not even sure.
Seriously, ask all 200 kneelers what they're squabbling about and youll get 300 different answers. The sum of the reasons being "equality for me but not for thee."
Seriously, does anyone in this ITT even know what is being protested? I swear if you put every person commenting here into a room and asked them that question the answers would be more diverse than the NFL.
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That's an incredibly ignorant and insulting comment.
Yet, 100% accurate.
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Here's the thing with Jimbo. His opinion on this issue doesn't matter any more than yours or mine, yet because of who he is he has a platform, and some people actually think he's well-versed on the topic. I bet if you sat JK down and asked him why players are protesting he probably wouldn't be able to articulate it.
I don't think the people "protesting" would do any better than Jimbo at articulating it. They are everywhere with the "cause."
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There's just a time and a place, of course, and Kelly picked the wrong time and place.
Hughes also picked the wrong time and place. Funny how folks are on one side or the other, here. Jimbo probably should have kept his mouth shut, and probably annoyed some fans. But, the Hughes retaliation rant will probably get him 15 yards worth of annoyed fans.
They both should have kept it in house, and the folks playing sides are blinded by bias, IMO.
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Never knew there were so many Kelly haters here.
It is really a huge rad these days to show disrespect for the National Anthem and the flag. I guess as long as they disrespect them "with good intentions" it is alright. It is sad so many people just give into peer pressure and act like being disrespectful is progressive.
Americans always need a cause, and tend to have a desire to fight oppression, even if none exists. This is also sad.
Couple the two, and some folks will say and do anything. I really do hope Pegula bans Kelly, as taking a long break from watching the NFL would save me both time and money.
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I agree with all of that. The point was only that the peer pressure or the binding for legit reasons had nothing to do with their union. Their lockerroom. Their brotherhood. Sure. But he was implying players being unified or sticking with each other was just because they were fellow union members is absurd.
Ohh, I guess I agree, for the most part. I'm sure there is some minor implication. DeMarice Smith is an idiotic loudmouth (see, last CBA). So, I could see some possible implication he might have tried to create. I am trying to ignore the whole thing, as I find the whole issue to be polarizing and annoying, and worse so on social media. Talking about sheet online is 100% different than talking about it in person, and this subject is better to talk about in person.
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That's a union decision or order.
Because, the decision to go on strike has to be unanimous...
Further, peer pressure and sheet. Even us adults are susceptible to it, to some degree.
That said, I need to avoid this subject like cancer, as it pretty much is cancer, in online chat places. Opinions and buttholes, man.
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You said they died for the flag. They did not. They died for the Constitution, which specifies a system of government that by specific design allows the people to assemble, petition for grievances, and protest that government. That includes not just kneeling for the National Anthem, but burning the American flag (side note: I can't wait for an NFL player to try that on the field during the anthem.)
And yes, I understand what the flag "means." Nobody raised a copy of the Constitution on Iwo Jima. But I think the real question here is: why are you disrespecting your buddies' memories by arguing against the exercise of the rights that they took an oath to preserve, and died for?
SMH...
So, you think it'd be arguing against his memory of his friend if the NFL players were burning the flag and he wanted them fired?
Private firing and government firing are two different things.
Further, thinking they should be fired has nothing to do with the Constitution. Believing the government should jail them, or force the NFL to fire them is.
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I'm a union member. I don't know of any member who just does what other members do without agreeing with it. I wouldn't.
It wasnt a union decision or order or suggestion.
Going on strike, for example...
/eyeroll
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What about the players who want him on the field?
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Honestly, stretching is less disrespectful than kneeling, IMO. But, opinions are like buttholes...
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I have a strong opinion on this subject and choose not to share it. The choices I make everyday are the only indicator of my preference. Strutting around like a rooster and squawking opinions for all to hear accomplishes very little.
Especially, online.
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One answer is best for the country.
The other answer is fair and American.
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I think the Falcons destroy the team, and somehow Peterman makes it onto the field. (Why I think game 4 is McDermott's plan.
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Writing is in the wall, IMO. Just curious to see when/if folks here think Taylor will be replaced. I say during/after game 4.
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Yep. Some of the elders of the tribes are ridiculous. I have first hand knowledge of that. And some of the tribes do amazing things with their money. Pretty much like every group of people I imagine.
Exactly, you can break people down into any type of grouping, but they still are people.
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Got it. So half of one ankle is Native American. Cool. Did you try to get a piece of some casinos, too?
Honestly, I would. Then again, I have seen tribal politics in a few of the cities I have lived in. The best story I remember is the tribal elders had a vote on purity needed to be in the tribe. They raised the threshold and started to kick people out of the tribe who were not pure enough. Kids were being locked out of the reservation schools, because all of a sudden they weren't pure enough anymore. I mean, less casino money going to those who were not pure enough really lined the elders' pockets...
Hurricane Thread --
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Posted · Edited by Paulus
But, this is a case where she deserves it. People need to stop throwing around terms like "genocide" loosely ("Trump is so racist he genocides, amirite?"). Regardless of political aspirations, why throw poop at the people who are actively helping? Horrible mayor, seeking political points and acting insanely selfish when she really shpuldnt be. People allowing that type of attitude are endorsing an truly disgusting behavior. Trump was elected in part because he hits back and he hasn't stopped since being elected. Sometimes, it comes off as petty. However, in this case that mayor can suck a lemon.
* What Trump said was the truth, as well.