Straight Hucklebuck
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Find a way to package Coleman or Kincaid as part of a DK Metcalf trade and get them out of here ASAP.
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Injured ✔️
Past his prime - ✔️
Cheap - ✔️
But.....Josh Allen likes him......
Brandon Beane loves these kind of guys
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His strategy worked.
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5 hours ago, Low Positive said:
Buffalo fans have a high opinion of him because he was particularly good at scheming against Josh Allen for some reason. Although all those games were against Ken Dorsey's offense so that may have had something to do with it.
Yeah and Gabe Davis was the #2 with Isaiah McKenzie as the #3.
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Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Doesn’t fit what the Bills are doing on offense.
What's that?
Running the ball all the time?
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I think he's still a good player, and showed much more than Amari Cooper did.
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3 minutes ago, FireChans said:
You are forgetting that glorious Stat Loutoto contract where they may have been the only team bidding on him and somehow still dramatically overpaid.
No team except the Eagles
Oh there has been a constant parade of low end Free Agents here - we all know the names.
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34 minutes ago, SoTier said:
No team can afford to pay a true franchise QB not on a rookie contract and give him a top quality OL and good RBs and good WRs at the same time ... unless they're willing to skimp on the defense. You pay a QB like Allen or Mahomes to make his receivers better. You pay your OLers to open the holes for the RBs, but more importantly, to stop the DEs/DTs/Edges from harassing your QB. That's reality.
The Bills haven't skimped on their defense but they have had bad luck due to injuries to Miller, White, Milano, and Hyde in recent years, and that's what's hampered them fielding as good a defense as they could have had in the last two seasons.
Sums it up perfectly!
This is simply untrue. The Bills took Ed Oliver at #9 in 2019, only the second time they picked in the top 10 while Beane has been GM. They have also tried to build a good DL around Oliver by drafting Epenesa in the 2nd round in 2020 (1st rounder went for Diggs) and Rousseau in the first in 2021. In 2022, they added what they believed would be the one piece to make the DL one of the best by signing Miller. For part of the 2022 season, it worked. Injuries happen.
So Epenesa, Rousseau, Miller (Boogie Basham) are now DTs?
2018 - Harrison Phillips (3rd)
2019 - Ed Oliver (1st)
2020 - None
2021 - None
2022 - None
2023 - None
2024 - Dewayne Carter (3rd)
55 Picks in the Beane era, 3/55, 5.4% have gone to DT.
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4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
You are ignoring the context when referencing drafting WR's. Beane used a 1st and 4th to get Diggs, we had Cole who was in his prime and one of the best slots in the NFL while here. Early on they nabbed Davis who began contributing as a rookie to go along with the Vets they had along side Diggs. That is all very important context when referencing all those late round picks at WR. The only guys they drafted with the intent to potentially be a significant contributor as a receiver were Davis, Shakir, and Keon. All went on to be starters.
But none of this matters in terms of the discussion on what the bigger issue about getting over the hump has been...which is without question the defense, and its not even debatable if I am being honest. Getting an impact player on the defense that can help the defense just get off the field one or tow more times a game on 3rd down would significantly change the outcome of all our playoff exits. Even just making one more play to get off the field on 3rd down instead of allowing a scoring drive would have swung our last 3 KC losses.
And every time our defense gets off the field, our offense goes back on it with a chance to score. So by improving the defense you are going to help the offense. We need an impact player who is capable of affecting just one or two more plays a game and this team beats KC by double digits each of the last 3 losses.
Beasley was 30 years old when the Bills got him, and John Brown was 29.
So was it really shocking that Beasley dropped off at 32? He was out of the league in his age 33 season.
And in a vacuum you might be right about getting a defensive playmaker - Garrett, Hendrickson or Crosby - working against the Bills is cap space, right now they sit at 29th - and they're now picking 30th in every round - so what kind of package is it going to take to convince the Browns, Bengals or Raiders to trade with an AFC rival over the Washington, Chicago, Arizona?
Garrett needs a new deal.
Crosby is $23M cash in 2025 and ~$20M cash in 2026.
Hendrickson has 35-sacks in the last two seasons, and he wants a new deal now - maybe you can talk him into mid-high $20's?
So, these are nice ideas, but can the Bills do this? And if they do - is Beane comfortable not re-signing Cook, Bernard, Benford, Rousseau? Because that's not how the team has operated.
Let alone replace Amari Cooper, bring back Hollins and Ty Johnson. Unless Shakir is the #1 and we're back filling the room with rookies around him?
How are the Bills going to afford $18M - $20M a year for Rousseau, and $25M - $30M for a premier pass rusher? The Bills can make one more run with Rousseau in 2025, and franchise tag him in 2026, so maybe an extension is not necessary.
You'd probably have to hold on Benford as well because his AAY is now $20M too - money and concussions.
I think Joe Marino has said if the Bills pull all the levers they can they can open $76M in cap space. Mike Ginniti of Spotrac has said he doesn't see the Bills realistically being able to outbid teams for Garrett and Crosby.
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2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
I get where you coming from, but the defense is by far the bigger issue. I mean we fielded the 16th greatest offense in NFL history in 2024. Asking them to be much better to carry a team that can't defensively do anything right is asking your QB to always be perfect...and also the refs. When your defense keeps giving up points, even something as simple as a bad or missed call by a ref can completely swing the game. I look at it as a boxing title fight...don't leave the fight in the hands of the judges, and if you want to beat the champ you need to really beat the champ. Keeping it close is putting too much of the outcome in the hands of luck, perfection, etc.
More importantly - The Bills are giving up an average of 35 points PPG to the Chiefs in playoff losses, and of those 4 losses, the Chiefs went on to lose the very next week 3 of those times where that same Chiefs offense averaged just 17 PPG in those losses.
Now lets look at what you are asking of the offense and what we would be asking of the defense...if we invest more into the offense in hopes of scoring more...you are asking for more scoring drives. Well we already score a lot, so that means drives where we punted or turned the ball over. Most, if not all, of those drives would require a lot more successful plays in those drives for them to turn into scoring drives. So not only are you asking the offense to convert the first down, you are asking the offense to continue the drive into a score. Sure, its possible that could be one big play, but most likely you are talking about a series of plays, especially in this style of offense.
However, on defense, we need one guy who can make just literally one more play (or whose presence allows another player to make the play) in an entire game that allows the defense to hold on 3rd down instead of giving up a first and letting the drive continue into a score. Just one more defensive play on a drive that forces the Chiefs off the field instead of surrendering another score would swing our last 3 losses to the Chiefs into wins. Now imagine that they were able to get off the field on 3rd and force a punt instead of surrending another long scoring drive twice in one game. You are talking about literally 2 plays in an entire game that take 2 scores off the board, not to mention, get our offense back on the field with momentum and chance to score again.
So, for me its much easier to envision the impact of an elite defensive player having a higher chance of affecting the game then asking the 16th best offense in NFL history to keep trying to be perfect while also hoping the refs don't also screw up and swing a close game like they also did this year.
And don't get me wrong, I would be excited for Metcalf if he wound up here. But, for this team, its struggles against KC...the elite defender is a no brainer first choice if you have to choose between the two. I mean Myles is a top 10 player in the league...DK isn't even top 10 at his own position.
Beane has skimped on DT for years and it bit the Bills again.
The athletic disadvantage at Safety during the Ravens and Chiefs games was a problem.
#2 corner has been a consistent thorn in the side going back Levi Wallace, compounded by Tre White's injuries and Elam being a bust.
And ever since Von, Rousseau, Epenesa and Basham this team has been weak at DE as well.
But WR has also been underwhelming in terms of the investment this GM has put towards the position.
No need to rehash the names, but 8 WRs drafted in 7 years, average selection is 5th Round.
And we know the Free Agents - Beasley was good for two seasons, John Brown was good for one season, and so Beane largely hangs his hat on the Stefon Diggs trade.
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10 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:
Either Crosby or Metcalf. What they could do for our Defense / Offense would be invaluable. Garrett just seems too costly and out of reach. Probably 0% chance we could land both?
How are the Bills supposed to afford two $30M contracts - let alone outbid the rest of the league with the resources it would take to acquire both?
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43 minutes ago, ShakAttack said:
I’m not sure if a WR1 changes the outcome of the Chiefs game (and anyway our offense had seized momentum in the 2nd half until the refs botched the 4th and 1 call)
but I’m positive Myles Garrett changes the outcome.
We are literally back to where we were 3 years ago knowing we were an elite pass rusher away from taking the next step in the playoffs, and honestly, Von Miller was panning out until the ACL injury. Well, Myles Garrett is at least 3 times better and 4-5 years younger (I’m guessing) than Von was when we got him.
So, it’s really a no brainer, but I also don’t think we will pull it off. Too much demand. He’s the best defender in the NFL…
I think we’re getting too comfortable with this idea the offense is good to go, just run it back.
WR1 is a hole on this team, WR2 is a problem as well.
The defense was a sieve against Baltimore and Kansas City.
But as bad as the defense played - they turned over the Chiefs on the botched snap, and then forced two punts in the second half.
And that’s where that game looked like all the Bills Playoffs losses - Allen with nowhere to go with the ball, no playmakers.
Amari Cooper was closer to 4.72 than the 4.42 he ran in 2015.
Offensive team speed is a problem - has been the entire Josh Allen career.
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I hope the Bills don’t see Safety as all good to go.
Rapp is the Bills enforcer, but two straight post seasons he’s been hurt.
Cole “Lost in Space Bishop”, Hamlin is a FA, and Cam Lewis.
No playmaking, no speed (Bishop’s 4.45 was not evident on the field).
Bills to get two new starters back there with some ball hawking skills, size, speed, feel for the game.
Rapp is physical in the run game, and that’s about all this group has going for it right now.
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Old Brandon Beane picking through the garbage bin again.
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Da’Quan Felton is a Beane type player.
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39 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:
Beane has drafted two types of WRs in his 7-years as GM.
So if he sticks to his book it will be an Xavier Restrepo or Jayden Higgins.Seeing the first round of 40’s:
Jimmy Horn Jr and Andrew Armstrong fit Beane’s usual types.
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16 minutes ago, Desert Bills Fan said:
Several speedy receivers available, just need 1 at the right spot.
Beane has drafted two types of WRs in his 7-years as GM.
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37 minutes ago, Billl said:
He just ran a basically undraftable 40 time of 4.60.
It’s hard for running backs to break 4.40.
Most live in that 4.45 - 4.55 range.
Even Henderson was 4.43 - 4.45.
Hampton in the upper 4.40’s, Johnson right at 4.60.
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4 minutes ago, Cray51 said:
Judkins looks good. Really good lateral movement too
Just a powerhouse lower body.
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Gosh get Spade out of here.
Judkins has great numbers.
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26 minutes ago, SoTier said:
I don't disagree with "going all in and giving away the future". I disagree with you on how the Bills can best accomplish that. We've butted heads on this before.
You think that loading up on the offensive side, especially at WR, is how the Bills win. For somebody in the "the Bills will continue to do the same old thing" camp, you seem to forget that the Bills already tried that. They traded for a big name WR, and they put up with his antics when he felt he was being "misused". How well did that work?
I think that improving the defense, specifically the defensive line and the defensive backfield, is a much better way to go, and I'm not opposed to mortgaging the future to bring in the right players, especially Miles Garrett. The only problem with Garrett is that the Bills can't force Cleveland to trade him, especially before the draft. If they decide to trade after June 1, I'm still all in, even if it were to cost 3 first picks. If they can't get Garrett, they should consider one of the other veteran DLers available through trade or FA. The Bills also need to acquire a veteran safety through FA, and add another CB, either through FA or the draft or both.
Last off season was "terrible" because the Bills had cap issues partly because they went "all in" on Miller in an effort to improve the defense in 2022. He got hurt, and he hasn't been the force on defense they hoped he'd be since then. They had to cut veteran players or let some go in FA, and they couldn't afford to sign top tier talents or even second tier ones. They cobbled together a team that went to the AFCCG when many if not most media mavens predicted they wouldn't even win the AFC East and maybe not even make the play offs.
Why do you think "the defense certainly isn't going to improve"? Beane's attempt to improve the defense by bringing Miller was derailed by Miller's injury in 2022, Micah Hyde's injury (he played only 2 games in 2022 and was again injured at the end of 2023), and Tre White's injuries in 2022 and 2023. Matt Milano was injured in 5 games into 2023, and only played 7 games in 2024. FTR, neither Miller's nor White's injuries were because they were "undersized".
Bull manure. You can say what you want, but that doesn't mean that you aren't going to get push back from posters who disagree with you.
Don't try to rewrite history to fit your prejudices. Beane has "gone for broke" in both 2021 and 2022 when he traded for Stefon Diggs and signed FA Von Miller.
Actually, I think that Tom Brady and Matthew Stafford proved that great QBs have great longevity, especially when they have good protection and decent targets ... and a good defense doesn't hurt either.
OTOH, Aaron Rodgers proved that the grass isn't always greener on a team without a decent OL, even when you try to load the team with your buddies.
It's why I didn't post for several days after the AFCCG loss. Come to terms with the pain before posting before you make an ass of yourself in perpetuity on the web.
He went for broke by getting Stefon Diggs?
I see above you ripped someone else saying that the Bills have already tried to load up at WR.
I guess that means 29-year old John Brown (gave the Bills one big season) and 30-year old Cole Beasley (gave the Bills two big seasons) and trading for Diggs. Because you don't mean Emmanuel Sanders being talked out of retirement to be the #2 in 2021, Jamison Crowder, Deonty Harty, Trent Sherfield, Curtis Samuel, Mack Hollins?
Maybe you think Ray Ray McCloud (6th), Austin Proehl (7th), Gabe Davis (4th), Isaiah Hodgins (6th), Marquez Stevenson (6th), Khalil Shakir (5th), Justin Shorter (5th), Keon Coleman (2nd) represents significant investment?
I don't think there is much evidence that the Bills FO views getting WRs for Allen as the path to victory. I think most of these Playoff games Allen goes in there struggling to make plays mostly because he has mediocre weapons. He generally has played really well, but he has to overcome a leaky defense, and being out-athleted.
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12 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:
The Deal from that Report is
Romeo Doubs & 23 for DJ Metcalf and 137 or 173
and you want to give up
Keon Coleman or Dalton Kincaid, 30 and 107 or 130
Then you have to add in Metcalf's 2025 Cap number, 31 Million and workout an extension with him.
Seattle wants to move Metcalf because of his cap number and dead cap in the future, GB wants to move Doubs because he complained last year and they had to suspended him to straighten him out.
Why would you want to include Coleman or Kincaid in the deal? I would much rather have Metcalf on the field with Coleman/kincaid. Is Seattle only interested in trading him for a wr. With the extra one I imagine Seattle would use it on a tight end.
I guess I just wouldn't even consider Kincaid. I understand coleman because that is a straight swap, plug in metcalf for Coleman's snaps but no way on kincaid.
Since you are offering a 4th rounder 23 picks higher and Keon Coleman a player under contract for 3 more seasons as opposed to Doubs who needs a new contract and has shown he will complain and pout over his role in the offense it seems Coleman should be enough.
Coleman, 30 and 130
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Metcalf and 137
Seems like a good deal for both teams. Seattle gets cap space, a young wr under contract for 3 more years and two good picks and Buffalo gets what they have been chasing plus 137.
It seems the hardest part would be figuring out what to do with Metcalf's salary.
Yup - any combination of Coleman/Kincaid being traded for Metcalf - I'd do that.
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14 hours ago, Hermes said:
Year after year, fans of this team are subjected to, the consistent rhetoric, that this year's iteration was 'good enough' save for a few calls here or there.
Too bad, so sad; they weren't!
The Eagles absolutely throttled the team that spanked the Bills in the AFCCG. No one here, can tell me, that the Bills had an honest to god chance against the Eagles. That team was primed for a run to the superbowl regardless of anything that stood before them..
It wasn't just Barkley, or Hurts, or Brown, or Sweat, or Braun or anyone else. It was all of these guys punching above their weight. Collectively that team wanted it more than anyone else. That'd what makes the difference. Every single player giving the absolute max they can, to get the job done.
What do the Bills have?
The Bills have Allen and that's about it. He's been great, but when hes the only one thats not enough to seal the deal. Whether it's the players around him, the coaches calling the plays, or mistakes he's made himself. There have been multiple opportunities to lead the team to greatness and they've all failed at that. Its the only thing holding this team back, it's not just Allen, or the weapons, or the defense, or the coaches, it's all of them.
But at the end of the day..
It doesn't matter who does what.
What matters is team success (i.e. winning a superbowl). And that means players being selfless and giving everything they've got. It means coaches pulling plays out of their asses to stop a crucial 4th down. IT MEANS BEING THE BEST OF THE BEST REGARDLESS OF CIRCUMSTANCE.
How many times have we all seen the Bills get 'close enough' only to fall flat on their face? The fact of the matter is.... that it's too many...
I, for one, am ready for the Bills to step up and win one for themselves and for the fans. It's time to stop being a team of wussies and being a team of men who get ***** done.
Let's go Buffalo!
You’re not allowed to say something like this.
As Allen turns 29 for this up coming season, there should be a feeling of it’s now or never for this coach and this front office.
But the theme of this offseason has largely been Beane and McDermott are fine as is, don’t change anything, we’re close.
The GM says it, the Coach says it, a good percentage of the fans say it.
Based on Beane’s comments I expect the plan to stay the same - the Bills will extend, re-sign their own, and fill in with low cost FAs.
Means they have to draft better.
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Why wasn’t this done already?
Penn State last played January 9th.
DK Metcalf requests trade to a contender
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by Straight Hucklebuck
Problem is two fold -
1. Knox is being paid as a starter and has been capped by Kincaid having to play
2. Kincaid has not been the playmaker he was billed - you can find a Tight End to do what he does - and he is a mediocre blocker on top of it. The average Kincaid game over 29-games is 3.5 catches for 38 yards.