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BillsfaninChicago

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  1. Yeah that move by Donahoe was probably the reason the drought lasted as long as it did. He either should have pulled the trigger moved up and gotten Rothlisberger or waited a season and taken Rodgers the following year. The irony is the Bills moved up because they were worried the packers were going to take Losman. 

  2. 5 minutes ago, Yoho said:

    I remember when Juice was with his first wife, Marguirete, he was fooling around with one of my wife's friends from high school (after high school).  I am not sure if living in Philly would have made much difference.   Different groupies, same problems.  

    Yeah very good point and man OJ got around and considering his choices in life he probably would have ended in a similar spot.

  3. 4 minutes ago, Yoho said:

    Excellent point.  Another moment was Thanksgiving Day 1968, when the Bills were playing their 6th quarterback for the year, Ed Rutkowski, who was not a QB.   For some bizarre reason, the Bills who ended the season 1 -15 took the Oakland Raider to a close game in the 4th quarter.  The Bills had the ball at the goal line and a touchdown wins the game.  Rutkowski who had played some running back ran a keeper that looked like the game winning touchdown but he was hit and fumbled before crossing the goal line.  The Raiders recovered, the Bills lost and we got the number one pick in the draft OJ Simpson.  The consensus number 2 pick was LeRoy Keyes, a running back out of Purdue and a total bust who the Eagles picked.   One play, one game, one trade can turn the whole franchise around in ways you can never predict

    I never heard that either, wow it is seriously not only a game of inches but beyond football a life of inches. I hate to bring it up but you do wonder how different everyone’s life would have been (talking about OJ’s post NFL stuff) if Rutkowski (sp) had crossed the goal line. 

  4. 19 minutes ago, Yoho said:

    There were always some great rumors that Lamonica was fooling around with Ralph Wilson's wife and he insisted on the trade.  The whole trade was Darryl Lamonica and Bill Miller for Tom Flores and Art Powell.  Powell was one of the great receiver of the early AFL but was done when the Bills got him.  Lamonica used to come in on frequent occasions to spell Kemp and win games.  Bill Miller caught two touchdown passes in Super Bowl II just to add insult to injury.  In 1967 Flores completed 34.4% of his passes for Buffalo.  That trade changed the Bills from a contender to a bottom dweller in a heartbeat. 

    That is really facsinating to me how a franchise can become something, good,bad or both, on one move. Hypothetically had we not made that trade we would not have been bad enough to draft OJ which eventually we traded to get Tom Cousinaeu in the draft which we then traded for the pick that got us Kelly. Just kind of crazy how one move can take you in a different direction for decades.

  5. 26 minutes ago, nucci said:

    Lamonica was a very good QB behind Kemp....at times played better than Kemp.......He was traded while he was on his way up and Kemps' best days behind him. Kemp was a folk hero here because of the 2 AFL Championships but fans loved Lamonica as well....my mother and sister did......to this day we don't know why the trade happened but Ralph was in charge so he had to authorize it...Bills didn't recover until Saban returned in '72

    Thanks for insight into that it sounds like history would have been different had they not made thst trade. Also it does like the same emotion to the fan base happend then as when Ralph fired Polian in the early 90’s

  6. 8 hours ago, nucci said:

    was going to say Lamonica trade...it has to be the worst one ever

    I keep seeing this one come up in the thread. For someone like myself who waas not yet born, what was the story behind this? Insee on his Wikipedia page that he had a great career after the trade and also lit us up for 6 TDs in one half when we played him. What was the reasoning behind it and who made the decision to trade him?

  7. 5 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

    I’ll go ahead and state the obvious.  The worst pick in Buffalo Bills history was trading two #1’s to draft Sammy Watkins.  Doug Whaley was under the guise that Sammy was a “generational talent,” and that he could help prove everyone wrong about a QB that he had a heavy hand in drafting - EJ Manuel (another bad draft pick).  It was a very rich WR and many of the WR’s selected under him outperformed Sammy.

     

    Of course, some Bills fans had an odd love for Doug Whaley and will defend the pick.  But this huge whiff, is one big reason why Whaley was fired.  Good riddance too.  

     

    The Whitner pick was very bad and I was upset both at the time of that selection and after seeing Whitner play on the field.  To his credit, Whitner did make the Pro Bowl multiple times.  There have worse picks though.  

    Yeah in fairness he did have a good career but I just remember being so aggravated by the pick not so much because we took him but where we took him. The pick came so out of left field.

  8. I will go back to the 2006 draft, the organization was left in shambles by the bungling Tom Donahoe. We had just brought in Marv and there was hope that he was going to bring us back to the glory years. With the 8the pick there was some serious talant on the board and we take Donte Whitner. A guy we probably could have gotten if we had still traded down and some even had 2nd round grades on. We then procced to trade back into the first round and who do we take Jon McCargo. Yeah for me that was the moment I look back on as the crossroads of the drought and we took the road that kept us futile for the next 10 years.

     

    Interesting to note I would say in the drought era we probably got the best draft pick in that draft based on value with Kyle in the 5th round.

  9. This is a more general question about development projects in Buffalo having moved away from the area 10 years ago. Is it even possible to get through all the bureaucracy to actually build a stadium downtown? I remember they couldn’t even figure out how to build a Bass Pro shop. If the same red tape is in place something tells me a new stadium might be a little bit more tricky.

  10. People sometimes use the retractable roof stadium in Indy as an example for  what Buffalo should build. Having been there for two Bills games on both occasions it felt more like going to church than a football game the atmosphere was so mellow and quiet . Maybe it is just the culture of the Indy fan base but I would fear the Bills would lose a part of their identity if something like that were built.

  11. 2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

     

    Likewise.

     

    I finally put it in terms of championship,

     

    Which would excite me more.........Bills winning the Super Bowl or the Bonnies winning the NCAA championship ?

     

    Either would be spectacular.....................but since the St. Bona chance is so remote.......................I would pick that.....:lol: 

    My lord can you imagine a championship parade marching through Olean and Allegheny?! 

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  12. I went up to Green Bay last time we played you there back in 2010. It was such an amazingly fun time I almost foget how badly we lost too you guys. I think that was Captain Check downs last game as a Bill. I would love to go back this year so definitely early in the season when the weather is still warm.

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