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so in unison every tech and media company decided a story by the ny post was a russian attempt to disrupt our election and...disrupted our election. some suppressed others eliminated but it took YEARS to even come clean and still waiting on if its "harmless" crackhead stuff with no big guy involvement. thats what your going with? but no comment on the cdc covid lies from my reply goose? doctors, experts, medicines, gov reaction, debates. all taken down with swift precision. just so happens gov approved info was all we could see. to concrete to my argument, so we will gloss over that 🧐 journalists getting fired for reporting that pelosi walked away from cops back towards the intruder. still waiting on the ..facts. ftx arrested right before he had to testify to the public which would be a prosecutors dream. leaks on supreme court rulings but Epstein roster is super locked down. no interviews with the gf? not news worthy i guess. on and on. chigoose you claim to be about facts and not biased but do you hear yoirself. is there no concrete evidence. is it all just a coincidence. conspiracy nuts like myself coming up with stories to trick you. just stop. say the truth. your ok with it all, or at least willing to mitigate ALOT cause they fooled you with their lies and its for your team. rather then admit my logic you have to hold strong with this bs otherwise some self reflection is in order to people you may have thought as the enemy at some point. the drunken uncles at bbqs were right..about this at least. its a powerful gov with alot of tools at their disposal. extremely rare we get to peak around the curtain by someone brave enough and not yet dead. ask snowden or julian what happens when you give people a glipse. regardless how you feel about them THATS THE OUTCOME of concrete proof. ( no idea why musk is acting erraticly parranoid about his location. BUT ITS NOT A GOOD BUISNESS MOVE!! 🤔) anyways,you have no gut feeling on all this? 3 million paid by fbi to twitter? dont be a billstime man. your alright which is why i keep trying to crack open that walnut to have you see some of this $hi÷. we need everyone on board when it comes to this type of overreach regardless of political leaning. this is the sliver we now know and its pretty bad imo. you mitigate this then so will the otherside. then it will get your full attention im guessing. but i promise if in unison the entire media says trump univeristy actually WAS a excellent college. ill call bs. no proof required.😅
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not only that but of you feel so passionate about what the company is or isnt doing right now. shutup and put your money where your mouth is. so them telling twitter and everyone else that the labtop was disinformation russian cyop was twitter? them pushing out cdc lies all through covid that were all lies was twitter not the gov. smfh. ok.
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the fact your ignoring is that there is a first amendment in this country that the gov should have nothing to do with cencoring unless it involves EXTREME threats to national security. even then it should be absolutely transparent to the public on their involvement. not take a billionaire to buy the company..on which he is became the target of immense gov investigations..by chance, all of a sudden, just so happens, to expose. the fact is its on record the government requested twitter censor people and topics that had ZERO to do with national security, saftey, or any other made up justifiable reason. not only that but the gov repeatedly lied to these companies about what were FACTS as they censor TRUTH. TRUTH that could of changed a united states election. stop me when its enough outright corruption on their part to raise a eyebrow. the fact is twitter did this in ways that were not disclosed to users, broke their own terms of service and LIED about it. repeatedly. they knew full well it was corrupt. so they know its a relationship corrupt enough to lie about but when its exposed chis like...i need to see more. seems pretty innocent to me. do i hear conspiracy talk? 😳. so... those are the facts that should scare the $#it out of you. like i just said. you think anything less then doors not getting kicked in is just a good working relationship. declining half is good enough even if alot of that half was KNOWN lies for a political agenda. the gov was "helping moderate" and there no pressure applied in this type of relationship when gov colluding to censor the biggest public platform IN SECRET, even a little is more then enough for me to have feelings. you keep waiting on whatever proof you need to think this is as close to direct censoring as our gov can get...for now. no big deal.
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lol struggling with content moderation? says who? what do you think gov control looks like? a bunch of guys kicking in doors beating people over the head until they censor? sending out direct threats? anything less is ok? dude your message sounds like something the CCP would say about their good working relationship between gov and companies. here it is "do this for us we do this for you". funny how quickly its forgotten a competitor was wiped off the face of the map (parler) in unison by all big tech off a complete bs lie by the gov about thats the lone place where jan 6th plotted. seeing how embedded fbi was its is laughable that congress was even caught off guard on jan 6th. they will always do it this way. they will always do it with reasoning that dopes nod in agreement with. it is for our saftey. it is necessary. twitter is a dangerous place in which the gov "recommended" SATIRE. it really doesnt matter. not sure why i still try with you. they kicked in JOURNALISTS doors at gun point for a DIARY and said it was for "stolen goods" and people on your side dont bat a eye. well they said it was stolen sooo full swat team seems reasonable 🙄 carry on.
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you tend to do this. i go through alot of typing to debate your post and then you dont address any specifics and go on to some obscure non related examples or reasoning. ill address this but alot of what you write here i addressed. your taking what i said and depicting it as the most exadurated example for your idea. your taking a factual enemy of the gov and people saying ACTUAL disinformation propaganda is present and then trying to make a not even close relationship to what we are talking about. here is my response to this that in the very reply i gave you. "know its a topic leftist won't touch but this IS THE THREAT in letting gov be engaged with speech and info if it is not EXTREME matters to security" see EXTREME? id say a king presenting a real threat is motive for gov to get involved. all the examples i wrote about the gov had no buisness to get involved and alot was FALSE!!! so i read this and it again you minimizing the threat here even as i pointed out (a real world recent example) of the LIES and negative effects to the population COVID!!!!! do you see "honestly see the crimes committed" still? so hoping you are still good faith effort to answer the thrust of my point(s) 1. if the interaction between gov and twitter was so innocent why did twitter lie about what they were doing? 2. if gov is allowed to "suggest" to media platforms what info they "feel" is misinformation do you see from the covid campaign example that not only will they lie but those lies can be incredibly destructive to people and in no way in the interest of all its citizens. if the fbi is not willing to quickly authenticate whether info that is in the public is propaganda or not then they should not be "warning" that it is coming. that seeds the ground to any info being able to be indefinitely suppressed at the fbis discretion. this leads to alot of power in their hands as ANY info can then be suppressed and tagged as misinformation. no other info on investagion is neccessary to simply authenticate it. look at the above list and tell me with a honest answer that you do not see the very real threat that can be created by not fighting this. finally im not suprised you dont think there is a "uniparty" element. you seem to give alot of benefit of the doubt to people who dont deserve it. when i was left leaning i still knew that was present. occupy wallstreet, iraq war, enron..ect ect. all giant scams that siphoned regular american people with unilateral corruption. im glad you dont want to believe it or live in that world but it doesnt mean it does not exist. topic for a different thread that id be happy to go into without bias. plenty of examples but that is not my basis in the reply.
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im just curious at what point do you see it as a major problem? there has to be a line right? at what point did the american people say you know what we need is entire wings of the fbi scouring through tons of social media posts to the point they are flagging satire and people they just dont like much? did twitter even need a moderation team cause it seems like fbi was basically a taxpayer funded wing of the company. so how many websites should americans be ok with fbi divisions rooting out "disinformation" and warning everyone of what the facts should really be. what level are you ok with chi? while real crimes are being committed the fbi was engaged as the stand in misinformation bureau that was ran out of the WH as soon as it was announced. youll use actual national threats as your examples and wave off as slight overreach anything else but this relationship was constant and very comfortable in twitter doing what its told to do in secret while LYING ABOUT IT. all innocent but lying, doing things far beyond any terms of service and what section 230 permits when it comes to editorializing. private company, react how they want. you constantly overlook the lying part because it goes against what your trying to depict it as. 🙄 as a prime example how much "misinformation" and "saftey concerns" do you think was "suggested" that prevented REAL facts from REAL data from REAL experts that the gov convinced with data by the all knowing cdc to censor and ALSO punish with ban campaign? none? a little? if the fbi was able to dig so deep to get them to remove jokes its no wonder half the country "read" the other half were selfish murderers. can we even calculate that damage done? the buisnesses shutdown forever? the people killed thinking those they were around were vax safe after top scientist from around the world said it stops spread ect. the kids never getting school year(s) back. i know its a topic leftist won't touch but this IS THE THREAT in letting gov be engaged with speech and info if it is not EXTREME matters to security. a company under gov scrutiny about a major law of 230 and "hey you gunna let that post stay up" IS HIGHLY INFLUENTIAL! as for the labtop. do you think they will ever reach a conclusion on the "investigations they cant comment on" so official word can be made? lol we are halfway through the sitting president "who just might be a corrupt traitor". 6 more years of investigating? how many till Epstein roster? how many till all ftx facts get released? maybe they have a conclusion but they are using the same printer as phizer who argued their vax trial data can't be presented for 75 years. its being suppressed by the elites that are given a very different tier of justice and you are ok with that cause they are on your team. stop trying to rationalize it any other way then a major cover op between gov and the media as a whole. happens all the time BY BOTH PARTIES but this one was especially agregious because it was done so brazen. usually they ignore it in unison hoping ..not flat out suppress it in a spotlight. but even then they have fans saying this is some kind of standard procedure while "leaking" all sorts of investigation info on other cases.sure. 🙄
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I hope Musk buys Two Bills Drive.
Buffarukus replied to JohninMinn.'s topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
his opinions tell me hes nothing more then a cell phone in a chinese bot farming operation. his algorithmic feelings cannot be effected so it doesn't matter. 😅 -
a totally currupt biased, lying, social media site wasnt stepped into and running at peak performance? strange. i get what your saying about smart leadership and coming in prepared but twitter sounds like a very hard place to not make mistakes. free speech isnt exactly add friendly. dems just enjoy the problems because they don't like the man. I'm not sure why that is. noone cared much about mistakes in his other endeavors. all of a sudden elon became enemy #1. hmm. for a guy who can't get advertisers I'd say he's doing a pretty good job getting eyeballs in the platform. all press is good press some would say. people screaming their leaving and can't take their eyes off it. im in the mind to thank him for exposing what he did. champion a place that has non biased free speech debates and good independent journalism that isnt suppressed ect. wasnt going to EVER get that then. so i wish him luck and will support his company if he proves it. when it comes to defending him regardless what he does. its because we want him to succeed. mistakes happen, big deal. getting a transparent free speech platform is a good thing regardless. the other side seems bitter
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twitter had a policy. they just didnt use it. banned people without any reason. used political bias to create their policy. arbitrarily enforced it at some faceless nameless "moderators" discretion and shadow banned users who without warning without their knowledge which they then lied about. and you act like a new owner making mistakes is somehow worse!!? the guy is in a response right above you in your pals billstime response having a user vote on and apologized on a mistake. imagine not lying and silence but acknowledging and apologizing. yeah what a tyrant. never seen a touch of that from the old regime again, noone wanted unabated free speech. thats 4chan. they wanted a equal playing field with transparency. applied to all and stopping with the heavy handed moderation. threats, doxing and alot more i dont think most users want. only full bore libertarians wanted what your saying. yet you keep suggesting everyone "flipped" their opinion on it. no THATS DEMS! shutup. private company. dont like it leave. build your own. where is THAT opinion? seem to be hearing alot for people who said all that. regardless how you twist it. it seems already alot better and the guy hasnt even gotten started with upgrades and such. please explain what the old system had that is better?
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yeah you dont get that by chance. i also hear these highly positioned tech people also get appointed positions in gov. its a back scratch back and forth. their head of saftey put out a good amount of sick pedo views. ooops. strange they let that all over twitter. nothing to see here. DOWN WITH ELON!! 😅
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i havent even gone through the twitter drops and i can tell you even by chance the fbi was merely making "sugestions" on what to flag like you say. that is highly influential. the company ceos were brought in to congress and asked questions and lied about all of this. no shadow banning sir. no we do not censor on basis of political ideology sir. on and on. why? why lie if its so innocent? because they knew. secondly a police brigade shows up to your door and "suggests" you stop parking in a parking spot. and then park outside? nothing illegal. you parking there? so even if your right, which i highly doubt, the threat of gov and pleasing them to stay on their good side and going outside their own terms of service in biased ways secretly is alot more then you want to make it out to be. same thing everyday leftist brushing off gov overreach as no big deal...when its for their ideology and reversing coarse the second its not.
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trump may have been president but i assure you republicans were not involved in getting twitter to censoring anything on their behalf. they banned the guy for now proven made up reasons stopped a story about his opponents son from being shared ect ect. just shows how biased gov agencies who should have no political affiliation have become. fair enough. watch it when you get time. pool is considered right wing extremist but i think he is fairly straight forward with info.
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we have a difference of opinions on whether the gov was simply flagging and saying please review this. seeing as the gov was disseminating a ton inaccurate info on covid for a main example should be a good example people should be against this. im 100% sure if it was a republican held gov you feel a bit stronger. i dont want it in any situation regardless who is in power. i wouldn't call it a major policy. again doxing is wrong. period. i gave you a full vid to watch showing how the protection of PRIVATE info was circumvented. so either your for people not only doxing but also circumventing people who are getting specific things done to prevent it, ignoring the vid i gave or both
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i dont think anyone really sees him as a infallible genius but at this point and time you should at least repect what he exposed so far. obviously twitter was doing things that they flat out lied about. the government was colluding with information that was allowed and banned to the american people. ill leave the biase out and just ask is it good that was exposed or do you want our gov controlling narratives and burying info at their whim. do you want the biggest social media platform doing nothing about child pornography? do you think citizens you disagree with should be able to freely talk out their point of views? if so then the leftists that are against musk for simply buying twitter are insanely biased..right? cause thats all he did up to this point. so now he changes terms on the fly and maybe makes a mistake in enforcing..time will tell. but i think the action is understandable if his saftey is in jeopardy. pretty sure if you got info your wife was in danger and somebody was transmitting where you are at every moment you prob react. good or bad regardless you would do it esspecially if it was somthing as powerful as the US government. time will tell what he is going to do but as usual leftist jump right on the first signs of trouble and act as if its the end of journalism or twitter ect ect. i am against doxxing. however it is done its very dangerous and has lead to people getting killed. swatting ect. so hopefully this rule is enforced fairly and with peoples saftey in mind. anyone against that for "free speach" purposes is comfortably in a situation they are not being targeted or biased. alot of assumptions are being made the instant a story or rule happens.
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stop pretending you know the ins and out on how info can be put out. its a private jet here is a video about it. AGAIN the guy running the tracking said he circumvented privacy in his own words. i stated in a earlier reply that this rule will have issues. owning one of the biggest social media companies will have alot. again the verfication system i hear was a complete mess. those issues will be worked out over time one way or another. the question is why does it bring leftists such joy? what did he do to make you personally care so much and please dont act like you dont. obviously somthing has him spooked about transmitting his PRIVATE info. his location adds nothing to a story or goes along with your narrative "hes out to get them" because they...what? they said tesla sucks? they said he sucks and this is just a ploy to remove them? every dissenting tesla journalist is getting suspended. not seeing it. makes more sense a guy who is exposing powerful people is becoming paranoid to "probably" credable info he and his family are in danger. as you sit back and just assume having no idea what steps you would take being in that situation cause..you were told hes a enemy to your side. right.
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what do you mean "there’s no evidence that I’ve found that all of those journalists were tweeting live location data)" even in the zoom call you posted they say they posted links to the page live flight data can be found or screenshot it to circumvent it could not be posted on twitter. elon used some method to prevent any public info on his plane and the user of the site that tracks him is on record saying he built a algorythm to circumvent it. going pretty far to make private info public. thats wrong no matter who its on. seriously what is the issue here. guy is getting threatened. guy wants private info not broadcast. people are going to lengths to posting it anyway. they get banned. shocking. are right wing publications journalist posting it freely not getting banned? if not why is it right wing can tell the story without sourcing where to find the site that tracks him? if they are and getting banned then seems is the rule some great destruction of free speech? if elon and his family get attacked would it change your perspective at all?
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4chan is more free speech absolutism without much moderation. so you are in this thread talking about elon creating a moderation rule. you may not like it but if it is applied equally and with transparency then what's the problem? soo damned if you do damed if you dont. i think you just dont like the guy. what leftist clearly refuse to understand on this topic. it was not about having rules on a platform. it was about rules being used to only target "right wing" opinions while letting the left run wild as they please. it was happening, there is proof and seems like that is the real issue leftist have. they no longer control the site.
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are pegulas hated and most likley being sent thousands of death threats from a bunch of unhinged people for taking away their echo chamber? what else did he do that was so wrong? did the pegulas just reveal info about gov collusion that has them launching repeated "investigation" that perfectly coincide with retaliation for sharing their secret. is it out of this world to think that the US gov making a enemy of you is not a reason to react maybe against your beliefs to better ensure your. saftey. comon man. and yes i think tracking the pegulas is wrong as any other doxing. you can put out info or tell a story without real time tracking or signal boosting where it can be found under the guise of journalism. if pegulas plane is going to odells house I'm fine with a day/week he is getting signed to find out. its weird as hell to track em imo. i havent seen pictures get suspended. he is a new owner of a gigantic social media company who is under threat for doing what everyone "claims" they want..transparency into somthing that was going on and some truley twisted things. i would think thats a good thing no matter what but cultist got to cult. i dont blame him at all for being paranoid and find it funny how politics has changed him from hero to villian just because people are told. i think his policy will bring about problems but these things work themselves out through trial and error..twitter verifications ect. but watching the joy in this thread from some from missteps as if he is enemy #1 screams im a drone at the highest alter. if you ever wonder how the gov has become so corrupt or how companies get away with so much just remember how so many attack someone who reveals it for no other reason then they are told to by the same people that benifit. iit goes both ways. ts pretty frightening how little it takes.
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so are you for doxxing? is keeping track of realtime positioning doxing just more accurate then a address in which you might not be at? if its true his kid was followed and car attacked after he posted he his worry about threats to his life, does that change any of your very mature takes about him being a baby who doodied his diapers?
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lol. oh...i thought it was hip hop lyrics because of the sweet rhyme scheme you had going. now that i know it was a reference to 50s doo bop music i fully support this platforms censorship and regret to inform you i am the leader of a hate group whos goal is to rid the world of undesirables that listen to it such as yourself. i have reported your post and hope to see further action. enjoy your hibbity dibbity suspension.