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    Biden creates an economic crisis--Unemployment, Inflation, risk of STAGLFATION increasing

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    20 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

    As per usual.  When @BillStime loses a debate he rolls his eyes and walks away.  Sad really. 

    Read this news article. He’s been following the ups and downs of the unemployed the entire time.

     

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/05/07/jobs-report-labor-shortage-analysis/#click=https://t.co/9cm0iSwY2P

    Biden creates an economic crisis--Unemployment, Inflation, risk of STAGLFATION increasing

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    4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

     

    I'm not sure about retail.  Amazon made brick and mortar non-essential.   Hospitality?  People were not traveling and most can cook at home.  The ones I felt that were extremely essential are gyms and fitness centers.  Ours were locked up tight for months.  One way to fight the virus is good health.  Now you could say that people can get exercise at home.  The wife and I took hikes every night after work.  I was actually getting more cardio last summer than I do now at the gym.  However when the time changed it was dark for several months when I got home from work so my exercise was greatly diminished.  I can't tell you how happy I was when they opened back up recently. 

    The overall point I’m trying to make is that businesses got huge PPP loans, and are about to get more next week, and they took that money and improved their businesses, bought equipment, etc. and now the only thing missing is their low wage slaves.

     

    They aren’t coming back for less than 15/hr. That old business model is dead and should’ve never existed in the first place.

     
    The quicker people realize this, the better off they’ll be.

    Biden creates an economic crisis--Unemployment, Inflation, risk of STAGLFATION increasing

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    9 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


    the minority party stripped something away? Ha, Rs are neutered whipped puppies right now... 

     

    Sounds a lot more like empty political promises were traded away for pet programs.  When will you people learn?? 

    It was a GOP controlled Senate when that idea was floating around. Romney and a few others supported it. 

    22 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

     

    Define an essential worker.  

    Retail, hospitality, teachers, nurses, etc. I never agreed with the term itself. I wanted everyone sent home in the early months. 

    Biden creates an economic crisis--Unemployment, Inflation, risk of STAGLFATION increasing

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    8 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

    The problem for restaurants and fast food places and such, where wages are generally the minimum wage, are that those jobs have traditionally been taken either by part time high school students, or by immigrants.  I know where I live high school and college students aren't flocking to those jobs the way they used to, as a way for them to start gaining financial independence.  Their parents foot the bill for everything, to the detriment of their child.  My kids were told from the get go they would be expected to generate their own funds for entertainment, and to help pay for car insurance and such.  My younger one works at Chik Fil-A right now.  I always say that every kid should have to work at a fast food joint for a least some time to gain appreciation for work.  

     

    The other issue around these parts is that the immigrant (or let's say less economically advantaged) population have no affordable housing anywhere near where the jobs in my area are located, nor do  they have ready transportation to get there.

    Adults took all of those jobs 20 years ago. 
     

    I would set a minimum wage for adults and for kids.

     

    You want cheap labor? Hire a kid. That forces it back to the model you’re describing.

    Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


    Having children you cannot support is the most irresponsible thing a human being can do. 

    Don’t get me started. I think it should be illegal.

    Biden creates an economic crisis--Unemployment, Inflation, risk of STAGLFATION increasing

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    Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

     


    Nope you sold me. I think your hourly wage should be the new minimum wage. Sound good? 

     

    Now, I would tell unemployed people that they’ll receive the rest of their enhanced UI in a lump sum if they take a job right now, if that’s what the goal is.

     

    Problem is, that’s not what it’s about. R Governors in red states want to steal that money and use it for other things like tax cuts, etc. 

    Biden creates an economic crisis--Unemployment, Inflation, risk of STAGLFATION increasing

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    13 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

     
    good lord economic illiteracy is the real epidemic. But fair enough. I say increase minimum wage to what ever you make. Sound good? 

    The end date for enhanced UI was set perfectly. By august, the majority of the nation will be vaccinated. That was the plan.

     

    Now, Corporations and lobbyists wants their slaves back 2 months early. Why?

     

    The majority of these folks are women with children. The schools just opened back up. Now, we should cut their benefits early to force them back out there before everyone’s vaccinated?

     

    The Chamber of Commerce just launched a multi-million dollar campaign designed to shame the unemployed for not taking low wage jobs. 

    Biden creates an economic crisis--Unemployment, Inflation, risk of STAGLFATION increasing

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    1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


    Unemployment shouldn’t Free to recipients. Have them put in some hours at a soup kitchen or cleaning up the street or working for a charity, tutoring kids.

     

    Free loader... ha. I support 4 or 5 freeloaders with my tax contributions. 
     

    Nevertheless Paying people to do nothing doesn’t motivate them to go get employed. Unemployment should be entitlement to have a safety net job, not safety net income. 

    I supported community service in exchange for UI during the tough early months. There should’ve been a program created to do just that.

     

    Too bad Donald didn’t do that and said it was fake, was just the sniffles, would go from 30 cases down to zero in a week.

    Biden creates an economic crisis--Unemployment, Inflation, risk of STAGLFATION increasing

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    1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


    No one should work for $20k/yr in two of the lowest cost of living states in the country? Which lobby is saying that exactly? 
     

    What an entitled loser thing to say. 
     

    you’re gonna hate life when your Mcimpossible burger costs $30 and your salary hasn’t budged... 

    Yes, 1/3 of the nation should stay poor so my burger stays cheap. Listen to yourselves!

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    Biden creates an economic crisis--Unemployment, Inflation, risk of STAGLFATION increasing

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    On 5/9/2021 at 5:28 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

    I can’t understand why unemployment is free. In this day in the age, people collecting prolonged unemployment benefit are basically on a government payroll. Why have them work for that money. 
     

    and that ‘they need the time to find a job” stuff is nonsense. The majority of the working world looks for a new job while working the current one. 

    Free? What do you mean free?

     

    Hey, wait a minute. You mean to tell me that you haven’t paid UI insurance your entire working life and I have here in NJ for 25 years? This is outrageous!

     

    So, everyone on this board is a free-loader except for ME? An entire board full of welfare queens? You too? Even B-man? Lol.

     

    The real problem was the PPP loans. What idiot thought of that? Businesses should’ve received small loans just to keep the lights on, not keep all of their employees, when there was no possible way for a business to know what they’d look like when the dust settled, and hope to have that loan wiped away. Really stupid idea that just ended up being a bailout and screwed over workers.
     

    Employees should’ve all been kicked to UI in the meantime.
     

    THAT’S where all of the fraud and abuse occurred. There were scummy businesses, big and small, getting those loans and still laying off employees to UI, then were calling them back to work, which forced them off of UI, only to lay them off again a month later when cases went through the roof, which then prevented them from getting back onto UI. That was happening everywhere in Florida. 
     

    Ya, if I was one of these people, I’m in no hurry to come back to work for scumbags like that.
     

    They also had multiple gaps (Aug. and Dec.) in between stimulus deals. Trump decided to have a hissy fit about Twitter, refused to sign the stimulus, and went golfing on Christmas Eve, only to sign it the next day, and everyone’s UI lapsed and they had to reapply. That took an average of 1-3 months to start receiving payments again depending on the state. He screwed over 30 million unemployed people on Christmas. None of that had to happen. He did that.

     

    That was a major mistake on his part and the GOP controlled Senate paid dearly for it.

    Biden creates an economic crisis--Unemployment, Inflation, risk of STAGLFATION increasing

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    3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

    I have no idea what your response means but its basic human nature to value leisure over work and if you pay people more to do nothing than they are paid to work they will choose to do nothing.  

    $300 Fed + $100 state = $400/week in a state like Florida or SC.

     

    No one should ever return to a job that only pays that much. Those days are done my dude. 
     

    Lobbyists are paying a lot of money to get you to repeat dumb things like that. Don’t be such a sheep.

    How to fix voter fraud

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    34 minutes ago, TH3 said:

    Want to get rid of "voter fraud" ...shut trump up....LOL

     

    They already got rid of voter fraud Bozo...we just had an election with 150 million votes and no fraud...what more do you want. 

     

     

    No state systems getting hacked like 2016 either. It was the most successful and secure election in history.

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