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I will revise my statement in that I think he had a sack against TB. But you don't pay what he was being paid for an occasional good play.
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run wise I suppose I do expect a drop off because we really dont have a run plugger like Marcel on the team at the moment.
when the raiders run on us I am sure it will get brought up a lot......but just remember....our pass rush wasnt that great against tampa and that is what you REALLY need from your DT's....they need to push the pocket and make the qb uncomfortable.
Was Marcel actually doing that for us? It is a simple yes or no question.
Pass rush? Don't think he was having much effect. Run D? Some argue he played mostly early downs, but watching games to me it seems our run D is strong regardless of the line rotation.
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Really the same? So you know that the other DTs can pick up his snaps counts and with no falloff. And what happens when one goes down
What happens if an earthquake swallows up the Ralph?
The guy underperformed, wasn't worth the big salary, and he's gone. And there are 4 other DTs there that can play. And the D especially the run D will be fine, as it was when Dareus wasn't in the field.
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One might just consider that "purging Whaley" (or purging Whaley acquisitions) is not a desirable end unto itself.
Well. Sammy isn't doing much in LA. Gilmore isn't doing much in NE. Trend might continue with Dareus.
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5-3, but a better chance of 6-2vs. 4-4
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True to a point. But other coaches got a lot more out of him. Part of that is the coach's fault. You can argue against it, but you would be wrong based on logic alone.
And I don't like the guy personally either. Glad he's gone.
But that doesn't justify a bad business decision. And that is what this is by the looks of it.
Beane likes to drive luxury cars for a couple years and then just dump them at the junkyard once he is tired of them I guess - rather than actually selling them for their market value.
Talent wise alone he starts for every team in the NFL right now except maybe one or two at the most. Can't dispute his talent level.
Talent is only talent when you want to use it. And the business decision that's bad is signing the big deal and then not living up to it.
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This is where I am at too.
Insane to get rid of that caliber of player for a 6th round pick. Bills traded a proven starter who has had Probowl years for essentially a joke. Simply not enough.
That is not how you build a team and invest in your future.
If Dareus wasn't playing up to his potential, at least part of that blame has to be on the coaches. It's not like Dareus is horrible. He would start for every single NFL team there is right now. Every single one. How in the world is that only worth a 6th round pick?
Another mistake by Beane in my opinion.
If the Bills pass rush and run defense gets worse now - expect the blame to fall where it is due - squarely on Beane.
Bull. Three different coaching regimes so far in his career and he had issues with each one. It's him. It's not coaching.
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Wrong again.
Too busy believing your own generalizations based on snap counts that don't factor in anything including him leaving on game early, missing one game, and then working his way back from injury. Keep swinging though.
One play? Your evidence is a tweet of one play? Come on. Get serious.
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How much do you think Pegula has been involved in the wild roster moves the Bills are making? Since Herschel Walker was traded to the Vikings I don't think I've seen a house cleaning like this. What do you think?
He approves them. What else do you think he'd be doing?
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So Darues is used on Run downs hmmm. So again what DT takes thise doubles on Run downs to free up the LBers. Kyle?
You just hurt two positions with this trade the NT and the 3 Tech
For what a 6th round Training Camp Body in 2018?
I said a little more. Dareus is not in every first and second down. And yet guys like Thornton and Washington and Kyle still get the job done.
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Easy question to answer take the contract out doesnt matter still paying it
Is the Bills DT rotation better with Dareus or
without Dareus?
If games he decides to show up, then worse. In games he decides not to, better.
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Have you looked at the situational snaps Dareus Faced compared the the other DTs. I bet not. That is why you have no idea what you really are talking about just using an overall percentage
I bet so. They use Dareus a little more on early downs.
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What DT is picking up Dareuss snaps.
Dont you think that Worthy and Washington are effective because they are not playing all the time and facing double teams all the time?
Dareus played about 30% of snaps. Somehow the run D survived and did well with the other DTs the other 70% of the time.
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Okay, who can effectively take on double teams to keep the LB corps clean?
They will do as they've been doing the 60-70% of snaps when Dareus was on the field. Rotate in the other DTs. And as they have done all season they will be a very good run defense.
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No they don't.
Yes they do.
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And Saint Doug will LOVE it because with Saint Doug Marcel was a two time probowler and first team all pro
And before he got paid so much and decided to become a pile of goo.
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Intelligence hmm was Dareus traded from the team before they are playing for the division lead? Or was he HELPING that team up until this week?
So now you remove a player the real only player that can stack Double teams and logged 40+ snaps last week and you think the team is better? Then you question my intelligence ha ha ha
Do you understand subtracting a negative is a net positive? That's 4th grade math.
They have other DTs that can take on blocks, and not pay a fortune to a guy that only shows up when he feels like it.
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I think thats fair which is why I included the contract part. You should have spent the next 25 games (or whatever it is maximizing the player. You used home a lot last week (comparatively) and he was good. After next year you let him walk (or force a pay cut if he turns a corner). You can teach someone to buy in but you cant teach talent.
How many coaches need to try before you would admit he doesn't want to be taught to buy in?
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Yoi are paying him this year ANY WAY trade or not.
So even if he isnt a scheme fit he is better than ANY player you would replace him with
You are not paying him as much as you would have.
Marrone wouldnt have gotten him if he didnt think he could work with him. Obviously
And just watch what happens.
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Unless we make a move for someone like Pryor. I dont think that you get better taking on dead money and getting rid of talent.
The issue is you keep insisting Dareus is talent, when his level of play has eroded.
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What are you talking about? One of his former head coaches just traded for him!!
And when he was here had problems with the guy. Watch. He'll have the same issues there as he did here.
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Call it what you want. I feel for your football knowledge if you think this trade makes the Bills better THIS year.
I feel for your general intelligence if you don't understand 4th grade math and if you say a team playing for the division lead is going backwards.
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So were Randy Moss, Corey Dillon, Aaron Hernandez, Golden Tate, Percy Harvin, Marshawn Lynch, etc... Sometimes you need to overlook personalities that you dont like if the talent (and contract) warrants it. You need to find ways to make it work.
Three different HCs can't get through to the guy. When does it become his and not other people'a fault?
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Bizarre post? Yes they create holes for no reason.
So now instead of one DT needed in the offseason you now need two
That IS a created hole
Subtracting a negative is a net positive. 4th grade math.
Dareus traded to Jacksonville!
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Someone above asked if he had an impact on pass rush. I answered. And also mentioned run D in the post I revised. Read what people actually post before commenting.