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I’ll offer an opinion on September 1.
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2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
I didn’t say they had to tell anyone, just that it is very out of the ordinary and odd. Why wouldn’t a team be transparent about it? I guess it rubs me wrong for this reason: Beane is the GM. If he has final say then I see no reason at all to not tell the public. But if it’s McDermott, then it’s a problem because Beane winds up taking the heat for decisions he’s getting stuck with. That would be dysfunctional.
I’m not so sure it’s out of the ordinary. Would have to compare to other teams.
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12 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
I have levied criticism of McDermott and Beane. On thing I always note when doing so is that it’s unclear who is ultimately making the final decisions. I think that Beane reports to McDermott, but I’m not sure. The Bills invite this kind of speculation because they will not tell the public who has the final roster authority or what the reporting structure. I’ve always found this unnecessary and odd. I can’t say I’ve seen that level of secrecy over that information before.
Why should they have to tell the public that. They run it the way they run it. Beane should get credit for the good things he does and criticism for the bad things like anyone else. Given they are a perennial playoff team there have been more good moves than bad.
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Just now, MJS said:
Oline depth would be nice. Edge rusher would be good. Receiver, obviously. Maybe Safety. I'm not really concerned with safety, but it wouldn't be bad to bring in a young guy to develop.
I really think Receiver is the only hole. Maybe edge rusher but a lot depends on how impactful Von Miller will be. We don't have a consistent sack producer unless he gets back to form.
But this team needs more elite game wreckers. Draft players who can become that. The Bills have had a good team for awhile now, but they lack the elite guys who can take over a game.
Agreed. That’s why I wouldn’t be surprised to see Beane trade a ton of picks to get a guy at WR they see as elite.
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In all the wailing and gnashing of teeth this off-season, the reality is we really have just two “needs” right now: WR and S. And even safety is questionable given Edward’s coming on board.
I tend to believe Beane when he talks. And he said the roster now is not what it will be in September. He also said the team needs to get more explosive. So I look for either a big move up to get one of the top 3 WRs, or a smaller move up in around 1 to get a kid that can take the roof off with speed. Then maybe a S, maybe a quick edge guy. Maybe a big RB late. But whomever will be a guy with however Beane wants to define explosive.
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18 minutes ago, billieve420 said:
Team better be right if they make a move like this as there is a number of holes to fill. Not sure if that would be something I would personally do. I would rather take slow approach even if we end up being slightly worse off this year.
Where are these holes? I’ll go position by position:
QB: Josh. Duh
RB: Cook and Williams. Pick up a road grader late in the draft
OL: all set there, only lost Morse and picked up Collins for depth
DL: all set at DT, might look at DE in the draft but have 3 guys there already
LB: no holes there
CB: have your starters, probably add a guy late
S: have your starters in Rapp and Edward’s, backup with Lewis, probably draft another.
So spend some capital to get a WR.
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14 minutes ago, uticaclub said:
Miller was old and signed because we had spent obscene amount of cap space & draft capital on push rush & got nothing.
We don't know what Diggs issues were. They could have been with Beane & management
We got a lot of sacks, just what we wanted, until the ACL.
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16 minutes ago, PBF81 said:
Historically Thurman's correct. Trading up to get a WR is a fool's game. I might do it for Harrison this year, because Allen's rotting on the vine only, but that won't be an option.
Diminishing the value of next year's picks seems fine now, but next year we'd regret it unless that player shattered rookie expectations. Beane's track record of that is zilch on top of it all.
We currently only have two picks this year in the range of possibly getting NFL starters. Selling the farm and reducing that to one isn't it best strategy.
Beane needs to start hitting better on draft picks however.
Saying Allen is rotting on the vine is perhaps the most ridiculously hyperbolic statement made on this board in recent memory.
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Beane has a plan. He wouldn’t make a move like this without one. And we’ll see it play out this month.
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Not much of a market for Diggs according to Greg Cosell.
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34 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
I honestly don't think that the Bills do this without Allen give it a thumbs up.
I think James Jones on one of those talk shows said the Bills figured out they can with without him.
Allen spreads the ball out well, maybe better than any QB in the league. With Diggs getting up there in age, slowing down and Allen not having to worry about getting Diggs his targets....Allen could actually be better. You can't force the balls to Diggs like it's 2020 or 2021 anymore. Diggs will want his targets regardless if he's slowing down.
Allen can now just walk up to the line and can just throw it where he thinks its the best place to go rather than satisfying Diggs ego. It has to be a relief IMO.
WR are diva's and probably will have to deal with something like this again but a more mature way. I appreciate what Diggs did for us for 4 seasons but these, what Tim Graham said "micro aggressions" do get annoying, especially for Allen.
You have to assume both Allen and Brady gave their OKs.
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1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
I would take the Rams one SB win and not making the playoffs over losing in the Division round three years in a row.
People are brainwashed with Beane and McD BS on sustained success. The NFL is a win now at all costs league. And this regime blew our best chances. Josh could break down like Cam Newton any moment with the way he plays. Like Apollo Creed said, there is no tomorrow.
Then maybe he needs to adjust his style somewhat
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Should have an incomplete listed, but give it a C right now. Grade will change after the draft.
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Just now, JakeFrommStateFarm said:
Diggs was a great receiver for the Bills and it's no coincidence that Josh's career took off with his arrival.
It's disappointing to see so many Bills fans turn on diggs
Was a great run, but he’s 31 now and production fell off last year.
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1 minute ago, nedboy7 said:
Diggs is better than any rookie until proven otherwise, which is a complete unknown. With 30 mil dead cap next season. It was a bad decision.
It is a good decision if the dissection he was rumored to be causing was true. I cannot imagine this deal was made without Josh being OK with it.
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3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:
Some folks are poo pooing the 2025 2nd round pick but if you combine it with the Bills #28 pick this year it could enable them to move up in the 1st round or add it to this years #2 pick and maybe jump back into the 1st round.
And since it's actually the Vikings 2nd round pick it should be pretty high as Minnesota is looking to have a down season this year.
I think they’ll use this year’s 1 and next year’s one plus the #2 from the trade and move into the top 5-10. They walk away with one of the top 3 WRs in the draft.
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1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said:
Tyreek Hill was worth 2x 1sts. Diggs is worth a 2025 2nd? Ouch
Hill at the peak of his career, Diggs on the downside of hi.
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25 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:
So would Moulds.
True. As would Jerry Butler.
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Just now, Royale with Cheese said:
This trade doesn't happen unless Allen tells Beane he's good with it.
Agreed. And while I’m surprised I think back to Bill Walsh who said it’s better to get rid of a guy a year too early than a year too late.
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15 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
I hate this so much. Best WR in franchise history.
Pegula and Beane choose the loser head coach over the star WR that called out his bull#### OC.
God I hate this.
Beane had better find a great replacement
Again, Andre Reed would like to say hi.
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1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:
The guy is the best WR the Bills ever had. Thanks for this. McDermott better win this thing basically now or I don’t want to keep running this ***** back.
Andre Reed would like to say hi.
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I’ll believe it when I see it. But if true I assume they talked to Josh and he didn’t want to deal with the distractions anymore. Has to be a prelude to a move way up in round 1 for one of the top WRs in the draft.
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14 minutes ago, Professor Worthington said:
Can you understand the difference between a figure of speech and an authoritarian decree? Since you’re deferring to me for guidance, I guess that means you consider me an authority, and I’m flattered.
So when you say criticism of Josh has to stop you’re not serious.
Looking back through this thread it strikes me there is actually agreement on many things:
1. Josh is a great QB.
2. People can accept that Josh can continue to improve on the mental or processing aspects of his game.
3. Deficiencies in other team aspects particularly on the defensive side and on coaching need to be improved going forward.
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5 minutes ago, Professor Worthington said:
Spending time picking apart Josh’s flaws is like doing the same for Steph Curry and not scrutinizing how Draymond, Klay Thompson, Steve Kerr, etc are playing/coaching to their potentials. It’s not where the spotlight should shine.
The only way the Bills win it all is by improving JA’s supporting cast. If all else is the same and we see incremental improvements in Josh, there is no Lombardi. One man alone, no matter how talented, cannot win a championship. I think we’ve proven that.
I’m still confused. What can we say on the message board and what can’t we say?
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Are we really going to miss any of the departed players?
in The Stadium Wall
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Can’t tell for sure with Diggs until we see who they bring in but will likely miss him a bit. Morse maybe on the run game unless McGovern can pull as well as Morse did, but may be stronger there in pass protection. Floyd a bit. Not at safety and I think Hyde may very well be back.