BillsFan4
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aight the booings getting old
Very.
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Lazy hackey analysis. Same old clichés in that guy's post. It's about producing a starting QB, really, not a superstar.
Go through the list of QBs drafted and then started significant game numbers their fisrt year and you will see that today's "college game" does at least as well as it did 30 years ago at this.
Seems to me like the goal should be improving upon our current starting QB, not just finding a starting QB period.
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I don't really care how it works out for them. I just want the players WE pick - to work out. If we get 3 good players out of this, it'll go a long way to pushing us into the playoffs.
Same here. That's all that really matters at this point.
I loved the trade down. Thought it was definitely the right move for the Bills.
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Just checked a Chiefs message board and they are all laughing at how little they gave up.[/size]http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...=307403&page=2
Let them laugh.
History is definitely NOT on their side. Take a look at trades into the top 10 for QBs over the last 17 years. There's maybe 1 that worked out well - Michael Vick way back in 2000 (before mobile QBs were popular. That trade may not even happen today).
Other than that, it's hard to point to another trade into the top 10 that worked out. Sanchez? LOL
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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/the-comprehensive-guide-to-10-years-of-first-round-trades/
Here's a comprehensive list for all 1st round trades over the last 10 years. Compare away.
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As of now, I'd say that Darnild, Rosen, Allen all look to have a legitimate shot at being pretty good NFL QBs. I'd say Falk too. And Raymond looks like a wild card.
A lot can change in a year though. We will just have to wait and see I guess... But as of now it looks like a strong class. Let's hope it stays that way as next season plays out.
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Here's an good read for anyone interested. It's a comprehensive list of all 1st round trades the last 10 years. It tells basically every detail of the trade too.
It's interesting to see how the value we got stacks up against other trades.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/the-comprehensive-guide-to-10-years-of-first-round-trades/
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You're doing it wrong. You need to discount the 2018 #27 by a round.
#10 - 1300
#27 - 680 (2017)
#91 - 136 (2017)
#27 - 310 (2018)
TOTAL - 1126
Bills should have gotten a 2018 2nd of 2018 3rd to balance.
I had never heard that. May I ask where you learned that?
I've always read that next year's draft picks are valued roughly the same as this year's. Even the draft value chart I have says that right on the top -
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lol at ANY fan who thinks they know what any QB will do in the NFL. It's absurd with only 30 seconds of thought. The NFL is worth BILLIONS. If you knew which QB's would be successful in any draft you would be filthy, filthy rich.
So, please. Just stop with the nonsense.
Very well said.
It amazes me the people who say with such certainty that a college QB prospect will be some elite franchise guy.
NFL teams spend $100's of thousands of dollars and countless man hours (between multiple professional scouts, GMs, front office execs etc who all do this for a living) evaluating these players, and yet every year we see so many of these teams miss and the QBs bust.
Nobody knows anything for certain about these QBs. If they did, they'd be very rich, like you said.
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Well not one of those bums made it past pick 12, 2 of them were playoff teams so I'm going with the knowledgeable football people over your assesment , no offense to your credentials.
It's happened before, where lots of QBs went high and didn't do crap in the NFL. Look at 2011 QB draft for example.
Only time will tell. Could be a good QB draft or could be a bunch of busts. Just because they went in the top 12 doesn't really mean much of anything at this point.
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Id actually kind of like Another trade down. Pick up an extra 2nd + more.
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I am still all pumped up about the trade back.
I feel like we may actually have a coach who is thinking about more than just this year and legitimately wants to build something good in Buffalo.
He's doing the best thing for the Bills, and not just for himself. What a difference from Rex, huh?
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What did Cleveland get? I still haven't seen ESPN show it, unless I missed it while posting on here.
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Hey, let's all just hope Alex Smith is so disgruntled that he ends up sucking next season and KC picks top 15. It could happen... lol
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I can't believe how many people are so upset with the trade up. Sure, an extra 2nd would have been ideal. But I like the trade.
And I'll Love it next year!
I wouldnt even mind seeing the Bills trade back from 27!
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Texans are taking Watson?
has to be IMO
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What math are you using?
http://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/games/draft-pick-value.php
Pretty sure It uses that Jimmy Johnson draft pick value chart. Has the Bills pick worth 1300, and assuming the Chiefs pick 27th again next year, had their picks valued at 1496. So just shy of 200 points.
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We made out in draft value. Even if we get the 27th overall pick next year, we come out about 200 points ahead on the draft value chart.
Mahomes to KC. Interesting. Wonder if Alex Smith will be available next season?
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2 1sts next year and an extra 3rd. Perfect job.
Wait, what? 2 first round picks from KC? Or you mean they gave us their 1st plus we have our own 1st next year?
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We better be getting a good haul of picks here. Hoping for a 2018 1st!
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Hooker please please please
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Ah! I'm getting nervous now...! Hurry up already
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Yes!! We either have a damn good player fall to us, or we get a damn nice haul in a trade down. Right? I mean, it's still the Bills. Don't F this up.
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This is not the way I expected the top 10 to go, that's for sure.
2017 NFL Draft: Round 2 & 3 Discussion
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Man you guys are way ahead. They just announced the pick now