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But the supreme, court ruled that it was illegal to enforce it, so no, it really doesn't.the law still stands. So it's illegal. I oppose the right, however. But it is still illegal not to stand shall = should. Shall is law. Should is law. Etc
Jr is a lawyer. Maybe he can give his two cents. But it's law
'So does it, and whats the penalty if I dont stand?
No, it doesn't. Section 171 does not specify nor impose penalties for violating the section of the code. According to a Congressional Research Service report to Congress in 2008, The Flag Code is a codification of customs and rules established for the use of certain civilians and civilian groups. No penalty or punishment is specified in the Flag Code for display of the flag of the United States in a manner other than as suggested. Cases ... have concluded that the Flag Code does not proscribe conduct, but is merely declaratory and advisory."
In other words, the Flag Code serves as a guide, and it is followed on a voluntary basis. You won't be forced to stand for the National Anthem, nor hauled off to jail if you don't. Cases brought because of something in the code -- mainly ones that involve defacing the flag -- have made their way to the U.S. Supreme Court where the justices have upheld that such conduct is protected by the First Amendment.
There are no provisions in the code for either enforcement nor penalties. '
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ugh. For the second time in this thread. It is illegal!
It is illegal not to stand and face the flag during it's displaying during the national anthem.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnetteshould is legal obligation therefore it is law
I thought it was ruled by the Supreme Court that forcing people to stand and salute the flag was a violation of the 1st amendment to the constitution.
And another supreme court ruling -
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Eichman
Here's another piece on it saying there's a guideline but they can not enforce it by law -
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Here's another article on McDermott. Tim Graham said not everything made it into the original article (that I posted yesterday), so this is some of his favorite surplus items -
http://buffalonews.com/2017/09/01/sean-mcdermott-files-dont-know-now-know/
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I've been impressed with Peterman this preseason, especially for a rookie.
You see him going through his progressions, making some nice reads to find his open receiver and is using the whole field. He looks very comfortable playing in the pocket. He knows how to step up/climb & keep his eyes down field and doesn't panic as soon as the pocket starts collapsing.
I thought he's picked up the offense quickly and looks very comfortable on the field running things. Doesn't seem to get too flustered out there. Seems to fit this offense well. He's been able to get the ball out quickly and his ball placement has been pretty good for the most part.
Peterman obviously still has plenty to work on and I don't think we should throw him to the wolves yet (unless TT isn't ready to go) but I definitely have hope for him. He's looking like a very good backup at the very least and I think he has potential to be the Bills starting QB, even if just as a bridge to a more permanent guy. I'm hopeful he can be more than that, though.
But It's really hard to make any real, definitive judgements on him during preseason. I want to see him against legit #1's when these a game plan against him.
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If Ducasse starts at this point, I really don't know what to say...
I always like to give new coaches the benefit of the doubt but It would be a huge hit to any good will afforded to Juan Castillo. Not that it would make me lose all faith, but it sure wouldn't help build it...
If they are, for whatever reason, totally opposed to starting Miller (which I don't think is the case) then they Have To find someone else besides Ducasse to play RG.
I really don't know how Castillo could try and sell it that Ducasse won the competition though. I just don't see any argument for that, unless there's just something that I'm completely missing or that we are not privy to.
Like I've said a few times now, I am not going to panic about this until I see Ducasse starting a regular season game over (a healthy) Miller. As of now I just can't see that happening. I sure hope I'm right...
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Wow. That was freaking pathetic. How many guys totally whiffed on tackles?
God think mos god these guys won't be on the team...
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Lol at Matthews with the photo bomb
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They really do seem to be tanking in a quite obvious way.
I hope it bites them in the butt.
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Can we trade comp picks?
Yes, I believe the owners just voted to change that rule for 2017 so that you can now trade comp picks.
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Holmes and Duc are done.
Ryan Davis will cling on for now but I wouldn't be surprised if they hang onto a younger DE to replace him come week 10
I think Holmes might depend on what the Bills are able to,add come roster cuts. Or maybe they feel comfortable enough with the guys beneath him already... we will find out soon.
I'm good with cutting Ducasse, Davis and Holmes to get that 3rd round comp pick though.
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Anyone else see Ducasse whiff on his block on the TD run?
He's gotta be toast at this point...
Even more so because he figured into the comp pick formula for the Bills.
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This is starting to look like a well coached team.
Agreed. Even the penalty issues seem to be more under control.
You can't expect this stuff to happen overnight. Its going to take time but I'm already seeing progress IMO.
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Banyard has to have earned a spot at this point.
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I will say this much...Intended or not Miller looked real good tonight...And he looked pretty good in the limited plays I saw from him in the Philly game...
So maybe they got what they wanted with this Ducasse thing...But that dude flat out sucks...
This is what I'm hoping too.
It was reported earlier in the offseason that Miller was struggling with this new scheme/technique and blowing assignments (etc).
P,us there were some saying (Astro & some local reporters) that Miller wasn't always giving a full effort in training camp.
Hopefully it was just about getting Miller up to speed and making him earn his spot (McDedmott did preach competition at all spots and earning everything...).
As I've said all along, I am not going to freak out about Ducasse until he's starting regular season games over Miller.
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Another bad play by Ducasse.
He has to be playing himself off the roster.
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Turnover!
Eddie Yarborough was Sooo excited. I got a kick out of that!
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Ducasse in now.
Im taking it as encouraging that Miller was the first guy in and REALLY hoping that means he is the leasing candidate to start.
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Peterman to Reilly!
I'm really pulling for this kid to make the roster.
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It's great to see Glenn out there.
The o line looks so much better with him out there, even with all backup O linemen.
Maybe all is not lost... lol
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Beautiful pass break up by EJ Gaines!
He played that perfectly.
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Beane on Tyrod Taylor: "I feel like in his mind, he feels he'll be ready for Week 1."
Did you hear him talking about Peterman?
I thought he made it sound like Peterman has the #2 spot locked up.
Also pretty much confirmed that Peterman would be starting if a Tyrod can't go.
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And Watkins, Woods, Goodwin, Hunter, Z brown, Gilmore, Darby, Robey, Ragland, Kujo, etc.
I have seen this going around the boards for a while now. But I just don't get how you can blame McDermott for Gilmore, Woods, Goodwin and other free agents. First, we don't even know if those guys wanted to be here. Gilmore seemed to want to go somewhere where he'd get more national coverage and it was reported Woods wanted to go home to Cali. But assuming they did want to be here -
Whaley was still here at the time, but if people want to say McDermott had 100% decision making power, ok fine. I disagree but we have no way of knowing for sure. I think at the very least he had to lean heavily on Whaley and his staff to help evaluate players McDermott had yet to even coach (or maybe even meet in some circumstances) .
Either way... Whaley still had 2 years to sign Gilmore and a year to sign Woods, Goodwin etc. but he didn't. He could have given Gilmore a new contract any time in his 4th and 5th year here. Could have given Woods, Goodwin (etc) a contract any time over the last year.
It was reported long before McDermott was hired that the Bills were not willing to go above $11.5M on Gilmore and that they weren't even negotiating with Robert Woods.
Plus the Bills only had $19M in cap space entering the offseason with something like 26 free agents to sign. If they had signed Gilmore at $13M and Woods at $7M that's $20M in cap space right there...
But he allowed us to lose Gillislee!
Putting all the blame on him for Gillislee is a stretch IMO. People like to pretend that Whaley had nothing to do with that but Whaley used the same original round tender on Hogan the year before and chose not to match the Pats offer. It was a very similar scenario and you can see how it fit whaley's m.o.
Also, the contract and cap hit of McCoy has to be taken into account as well as the overall cap of the team plus how the organization felt about J. Williams (which I would assume Whaley felt strongly about Williams ability to replace Gillislee). I just don't see how you put all the blame on McDermott for this. He had hardly been here a couple months at the time. I doubt he was making every decision all on his own without any input from Whaley or others.
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August trades knock Buffalo Bills' record prediction down to 5-11
- 8:25 AM ET-Mike RodakESPN Staff Writer
When the NFL schedule was released in April, I predicted the Buffalo Bills would finish the 2017 season with a 6-10 record. My colleagues were not as generous, with their predictions for each game amounting to a 4-12 aggregate record. After last month's unexpected trades of wide receiver Sammy Watkins and cornerback Ronald Darby, I've knocked one game off the Bills' victory total in my latest prediction.
At least he's being reasonable with what the loss of Watkins's will do to the amount of wins/losses.
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I don't usually start new threads but I felt like we could use a positive thread on this new regime/coach and thought this article was worth sharing. I, for one, really like Sean McDermott. I've been a fan of his since 2012, really. What he did with that Carolina defense was very impressive IMO. They went from 28th ranked in his 1st year, to 10th ranked in his 2nd year (after struggling to start the season). Then they finished the 2013 season as the #2 ranked defense and they were top 2-5 in many defensive categories for much of the season. They were simply dominant that year. McDermott had a top 10 defense 4 of the past 5 years in Carolina and has earned this chance IMO.
Anyway here's the article and a few excerpts from it -
There's no keeping him down:How Sean McDermott ascended to coach of the Bills.
http://buffalonews.com/2017/08/31/theres-no-keeping-sean-mcdermott-ascended-coach-bills/
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette