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  1. 11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

    Allen has 6 games of passing for under 154 yards his last year in college and didn’t even get voted to any all-mvc teams.  I’m not even trying to bash him but just point out that he was drafted that high on potential.  And I would have wanted a guy like ESB to get drafted with him. Ray Rays are in every draft and free agency.

     

    but ESB is playing with Rodgers so if he doesn’t develop you’re right.  But I would bet on him having the better career.  

     

    Did you watch Wyoming a lot?

     

    i watched every throw from Allen’s career after the season and I can assure you he had a bottom 10 line in D1 football and a paltry list of receivers 

     

    he was literally running for his life every game , almost every play...

     

    they also ran , ran, and then finally threw on 3rd and long a majority of the year... they had a pourous line and played ball control football. He still managed like 16TDs to 6 picks behind a D2 line.

     

    the year prior with a better TE and 1 good center and 1 WR he had 28 TDs .

     

    I was very harsh of Allen because I’m a harsh coach/scout and I really didn’t want him over Darnold/Baker or Rosen

     

    but I can’t deny what he did with Wyoming was remarkable. 90% of the real scouts and coaches I know and talk too loved the kids talent and had him as a top 6 pick... Maybe 10% were actually not high on him 

     

    his floor is actually pretty high with his athleticism... and I was wrong about that...

     

    he will be much better than Peterman right away this Sunday 

  2. 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

    Respectfully disagree.  I’d rather have the 6’5” super fast guy who looked dominant at times with one of the worst throwing qbs in all of college football than a undersized, not really fast guy who wasn’t even the best slot wr on his college team (Hunter).  Ray Ray types are so easy to find.  6’5” fast guys aren’t.

     

    and didn’t we just draft Josh Allen on potential?  

     

    Josh Allen was the best player on the field everytime he stepped onto a WAC field...

     

    ESB cannot say the same... he also had Kizer throwing him the ball his sophomore year and he dropped passes still

     

    ESB is like Dorian Green Beckham only less talented.

     

    He is a great athlete , not a great football player

  3. 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

    Who has more upside - Ray Ray or ESB?  Plenty of guys develop in later rounds.  

     

    Playing devils advocate of course plenty of late round picks develop... they are both late round picks so I will say they are on even terms as far as roster status 

     

    ESB has the physical tools you look for. Height , weight , speed but lacks a lot of WR nuances you look for

     

    Ray Ray is small, and was not used as a true every down receiver at Clemson but showed good concentration, ability to catch in traffic and play bigger than his size

     

    While ESB might have more “potential” on paper... all potential means is you haven’t done **** yet 

     

    ill take the kid who can catch and return punts, and run gadget plays in the 6th

  4. 3 minutes ago, transient said:

     

    Brad Kaaya.  Pshaw.  I predict mid RPO on Sunday Allen's molar will leap from his head unprovoked and lay waste to Joey Bosa as he stand on the sideline in a walking boot, thus beginning the legend of Josh Allen.

     

    I actually heard that Bosas foot bruise happened because he stepped on Allen’s canine... which he strategically placed on the ground ?

  5. 8 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

    I can't disagree but would add that too much of anything will either get him killed or be completely ineffective.  The idea is to mix it up enough to stop the front 7 from attacking as much.  Even when mixing it up there is a chance that the defense will guess right and get pressure.  Someone posted vids of Allen's games last year and the first one I watched he took off running and got decleated.  There's always a chance the QB will get hit.

     

    Of course . Football is a violent game. 

     

    Thats why the whole starting him too soon can ruin him is BS to me... he can get hurt on any play at any time... behind a good line or bad line.. you play the best QB you have in the NFL

     

    he is used to playing behind a dog**** Oline at Wyoming so it shouldn’t put him into shell shock... he was baptized By fire at Wyoming , and the cream rises

     

    and he will be baptized by fire in the NFL, and I have a feeling he will surprise (in a good way) a lot of people

  6. People who are screaming for a heavy dose of RPOs are missing 1 thing...

     

    the idea behind the Run/Pass option is for it too look like a run with passing options

     

    so you will get LBrs going downhill fast in the NFL and doing this...

     

     

     

    a very good line can like the eagles and it can be successful...

     

    ours struggles to pick up blitzes and stunts... a RPO offense can get Allen killed

     

    just Coach Allen up to take off against man for a quick 7-10 when it’s open and get down 

  7. 4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

     

    He was 6 years old when I took him to see Hulk Hogan WWF show in Rochester. “Dad, I wanna be a wrestler when I grow up!” Me-‘Son you can be anything you set your mind to!’

    Parental Error #47...

     

    EB0BE10F-39DF-4C55-A2B9-379C346997D2.jpeg

     

    Hahaha very cool! And I can see it being nerve wrecking 

     

    they take a serious amount of trauma on their  bodies... and he seems like a high flier...

  8. 3 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

    ‘Preciatecha! Taking him to the airport tomorrow. He’ll be at the game, likely in full regalia. Florence may have something to do with his plans..

     

    He & Crazy Daughter in the Dolphin Stadium Clubhouse after the finale last season.

     

     

     

    How did he get into wrestling? He had some sick suicide dives in that video!

     

    you must be proud! 

  9. 3 hours ago, VW82 said:

     

    Between Wentz and Goff, Wentz was considered far more NFL ready at the draft and even coming out of camp. Eagles also had a SB level roster to surround Wentz and take some of the pressure off him. Everyone keeps comparing him to Allen because they both came from small schools but the comparison ends there. They're completely different QBs, with polar opposite situations (as far as help talent), and their learning curves coming into the league couldn't be anymore dissimilar. 

     

    They aren’t Completely different QBs... they were recruited by the same coach who has said their are similarities 

     

    they are both big, stout pocket passers 6’5 235+, and have high levels of athletic ability and escapability from the pocket. Both are very creative when plays break down and are strong with throwing off would be sack artists

     

    Carson Wentz was more cerebral than Josh Allen coming out while Allen is more physically gifted 

  10. 4 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

    Cardale didn't start a game for the Bills either. But there's also a lot more than 5 QBs since Trent...

    Fitz and Brohm both started a game in 2009

    EJ, Thad Lewis, and Jeff Tuel all got starts in 2013

    Orton in 2014

    Tyrod and technically Cassel in 2015 (regardless of whether you count Indy as Tyrod or Cassel it was their first start and we won)

    Peterman in 2017

     

    So Allen will be the 10th new QB to start for the Bills since Edwards.

     

    I said drafted. Fitz and Brohm weren’t drafted... neither was Thad, or Orton, or Cassell

     

    Tuel I will count as UDFA... forgot about him for a second 

  11. 2 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

      While 30,000 young persons at the lots by the stadium is one measure it is far from the only measure.  It's been on the news recently that many high school football programs are seeing less participants currently than what was previous not many years back and not all of it is due to debilitating injury concerns.  I am around kids of all ages and I hear less NFL and college football talk among 25 year olds on down than when my oldest nephews and nieces were in their early twenties a decade ago and even that is less than when I was that age a few decades back.  There are approximately 3 million people in in the WNY and Central NY areas and most likely there are nearly a million people age 35 or less.  30,000 "young" people are not even 10 percent of the entire group.  

     

    Well first, most of the people tailgating are going to the game. So 30,000 21 year old out of 71,000 seat stadium

     

    that is a good %

     

    i am also around people of all ages and have been a HS coach and scout

     

    there are definitely less kids playing today than 25 years ago but that is mainly in the suburbs. Where mothers are afraid to let their kids play ball. And that is a small %. My local HS in Buffalo area has 800 kids. A pretty small school for national standards

     

    but the football team is stacked with talent

     

    in the city there is no shortage of kids playing football

  12. 24 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

    Well that's already wrong.  Tyrod Taylor beat the Colts in his first ever start for the Bills in 2015.  Ryan Fitzpatrick first start for the Bills was when Trent went down.  He won the game against the Jets in OT.  His first full start was the next game against Carolina, which he also won. How do people post stupid stuff like this without homework. (not you Corner, I am referring to Trey Wingo.)  I mean he only had to go back 1 starter to see it.  

     

    Maybe he meant to say drafted QB?

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  13. 6 hours ago, RochesterRob said:

      Football is far from fine.  I know lots of young people who have no interest in the NFL or college football.  The impact is not felt because these people are not yet big spenders but when they hit their stride in terms of career their money will be spent elsewhere.  Not on game tickets or merchandise such as 400 dollar team coats.  The NFL is maintaining due to its older fans.  You will see more dorky commercials by the NFL on how grandma is a Bears fan, sonny who moved to Milwaukee for work is a Packers fan, and his daughter who moved to LA for career is a Rams fan.  The NFL is saying we don't care if you follow tradition we just want your damn money.

     

    There are literally 30,000+ 21 year old kids at the grass lots every home game 

     

    there are tons of young kids into football still, especially in Buffalo

  14. 6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

    the end of career departures after 10 plus with the Bills I can accept.     

     

    I still love to hear  when London Fletcher's and Larry Centers  names are called  out. 

     

    It seems Tasker was always a Bill.  

    Tasker was with Houston in 85 and the first 2 games of 86

     

    NFL HoFrs enter as a member of all the teams they played for . So Shady would definitely also be a Bill , so Fletcher technically would be as well

    1 minute ago, Koko78 said:

     

    He was with Houston. Once saw an interview with Tasker, where he said that Jerry Glanville asked him to intentionally fail the Bills' physical, so they could re-sign him with the Oilers.

     

    I know he was with Houston. It was a steal of a move

  15. 6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

    AWESOME news.  

     

    #respect

    Kent Hull, Cornelius Bennett,  Darryl Talley,  and  Steve Tasker   Bills lifers.  

     

    I loved both London Fletcher and Larry Centers but as part timers.   It's different in a way. 

     

    Technically we scooped Tasker off waivers iirc so he was with another team and Talley went to MN and ATL after us for 1 a piece 

     

    just being that guy ?

  16. 1 minute ago, Fadingpain said:

    I couldn't agree more.

     

    I know the argument for NOT putting a special teams guy in there.  Doesn't play enough, doesn't impact the game enough, perhaps, and so on.

     

    There are 2 exceptions that make Tasker a legitimate HOFer IMO:

     

    1) He wasn't just an outstanding player, he was the best gunner the league has ever seen, and the second best guy is a mile behind.  That deserves recognition.

     

    2) He had a knack for making huge, big, explosive, impact plays that altered the outcome of football games.  Guys like that are very rare and worth their weight in gold when you find them.

     

     

     

     

     

    He was every bit a critical piece of the 4 SB teams

     

    exactly as you stated, he made big , explosive plays when they mattered 

     

    He is the best gunner of all time, and it isn’t even close

     

    ask all the other AFC east coaches how much of an impact Tasker had on their gameplanes and how they hated playing him 

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