[The Browns are officially leaving Cleveland again]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Wasn’t he doing like 101 mph for one ticket? I think the most recent was crazy fast.  It’s not 36 in a school zone during the summer.  He may be able to learn a playbook, but he failed to learn that life lesson. 

Yeah I think it was at least 101 lol

 

Don't get me wrong I do occasionally go over the speed limit but I've never gone that fast and I've never gotten one speeding ticket in my life 

 

In fact I have one parking ticket ever lol

 

Knock on wood

[The Browns are officially leaving Cleveland again]

11 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I think Sanders is going to surprise many

Two speeding tickets in the last 90 days certainly is surprising

[I want to catch one last game at Rich Stadium late in the year...]

18 minutes ago, Dan said:

Whether this will be the last season, last game, last whatever… I don’t care so much.  All I know is next October I will see my first (and almost certainly last unless they do keep playing there in 2026) Bills game in Rich Stadium.   I have the tickets and coordinated with the fam.. it’s set!   And I’m excited to finally walk into the holy land on game day. 
 

It is quite the experience walking through that concourse and seeing the field for the first time in person 

 

Even seeing it so many times throughout my life.. it always brings me back to my childhood and my father bringing me and how it was like a movie how beautiful it looked

[A sincere thank you]

2 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

Bashful 😂

[Arch Manning a big fan of Josh Allen]

1 minute ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

Anyone who remembers the Colts in the AFC East with Peyton knows how bad of a time that was. Nobody in the Mafia wants him in the AFC, that's for sure. I don't care if the talking heads consider him a lesser prospect than his brothers- he is still a Manning.

He's not Peyton and Eli's brother

[Who is the worst franchise QB in the NFL?]

On 6/27/2025 at 7:58 AM, Kirby Jackson said:

2 years ago he had over 4000 yards and 28 TDs. You’re WAY underrating Baker. He’s a top 10 QB. He’s not in the Tua/Lawrence/Kyler tier. He’s in the group with guys like Herbert, Stafford, Stroud, Dak and Goff.

I think Baker has a lot of talent and is much better than giving credit for

[Name a random Bills player and one thing you remember about them]

On 6/27/2025 at 7:03 PM, PonyBoy said:

A few thoughts in no particular order (copyright)

@Virgil @Bill from NYC

 

1. My father worked at a bank in late 70's or so and got me a black & white autographed picture of our backup QB Dan Manucci (some old timers remember him) 

 

 

2. We sponsored the Thurman Thomas Show at our restaurant, Daryl Talley was a guest as well. An old timer who didn't come back right from Vietnam was busting his balls after his DWI telling him don't drink too much boy. Darryl said to me personally if that MF'er calls me boy one more time I'm gonna F*** him up!

 

3. I was working in sales at a Mercedes dealership. Sam Gash came in, met him with the GM. I was about 6'-3", 195 & about 38. I'm in a suit and said to him, ya know what? I don't think you can block me, I think I can beat you. I get down in a 3 pt. stance... We all just burst out laughing! 😂

Good times 

Sam gash was bigger when he was 14 lol

[McDermott not in Top 10 of NFL coaches per PFF.]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I'd argue Mack Hollins cleared the bar of "made an impact" but he was who we knew him to be and if he is your team's most impactful addition over an offseason that is not a good thing.

He certainly was good for Josh Allen last year 

 

If your third or fourth guy has stone for hands and rock for brains you're not in a good position

[A sincere thank you]

18 hours ago, Old Coot said:

Buffalo716 -- a heartfelt post if there ever was one.  I and others appreciate your deep knowledge of the game and your willingness to share it.

 

On this latter topic, I read a piece on how the D could show man but really be in zone. One of the "tells" that its a man D is for the O to put a WR in motion to the opposite side. If a db fallows that motion, it's man.

 

But the piece described how the db could follow the motion, thus showing man but the D was really playing zone. This tricks the QB into thinking it was man coverage.

 

Here's the rub (no pun intended): I cannot find the post and I cannot remember how the D plays zone to the side the db vacated.

 

Do you know the answer? Thanks

So you could have some man match principles with a boundary corner in MEG 

 

That would be man everywhere he goes

 

So if z goes in motion your boundary corner could potentially follow him... While the other principles of the offense dictate coverage probably a cover 4 variant with bracketing 

 

Cover 4 lock could potentially have guys following a receiver.. but the safeties are still in quarters and the linebackers would still be in zone with the boundary corners in full man

[A sincere thank you]

9 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Im starting to.  If the new OC can get everything dialed in we finally have a QB again.  I feel better with Venables doing what he does best in calling plays.   If we can Beat Michigan week 2, that's a huge start.

There's going to be a lot of variables early in the year 

 

But talent wise I think they're in the top 15

 

And I expect a revamped offense that will be more reminiscent of Sooner football 

 

 

[A sincere thank you]

7 hours ago, mcjeff215 said:

Drunk text vibes.

 

in all seriousness, it really is an awesome site and is still in my daily routine, it has been since Todd Collins was a topic (though I don’t remember what the hell happened to my first login). I don’t post much now, but I’m here a few times a day. 

 

A few weeks ago my wife saw me looking at it and said something about how I’ve been TBD’ing for “like 20 years.” She’s not wrong. 

If I was drunk It would've been filled with more expletives and been less coherent!

 

[A sincere thank you]

15 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Back at ya buddy, you help make this place what it is.

I have good feelings about the Sooners this year 

 

Tons of talent 

 

[A sincere thank you]

16 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Disagreed The original BBMB was awesome. There were so many weird characters on there. Some were absolutely nuts, but that’s what gave it charm. Reminds me of the internet in its Wild West days before everything got washed down & sanitized. Even Chris Brown posted there. The community felt a lot closer and there a lot of fun contests. People lived & died w/ their player predictions. 

I certainly did hype up Gilmore to no end 

[A sincere thank you]

15 hours ago, Einstein said:

You forgot @BuffaloBill who does a great job in the game threads.

If I forgot anybody I apologize @BuffaloBill

 

✌️✌️✌️

[A sincere thank you]

15 hours ago, FireChans said:

Someone has racked up 1 too many warning points. Don’t fall for his tricks@Simon

You literally just made me spit out my tea you sob 

 

Yeah I'm drinking tea at midnight

[A sincere thank you]

12 minutes ago, Joe Marino said:

Thx for the drunk text.

I haven't had a drink in months ✌️✌️

 

Any other unnecessary comments

[PFF top 10 defensive lines]

5 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

DL is one of the position groups I'll watch most in preseason (along with the WR group) because I'm excited for it, but anxious and uncertain too.  

 

I get the Kyle analogy and hope this season proves you right about Ed.  

If the defensive line and some players take a step that could make the bills super formidable 

 

It would be awesome to see these guys wreck games 

[A sincere thank you]

Sitting here in the dead of night I have came to the realization that I have been on this website for over 8 years 

 

Plenty of times on the road this website keeps me occupied talking with Bills fans which is more than I could ever ask for 

 

Thanks to All of the moderators and site owner

 

@AiO @R. Rich@SDS@Nervous Guy @Simon @Canadian Bills Fan 

 

And this is easily the best NFL message board in the country thanks to all the bills fans here... Too many to count and name 

 

Just wanted to say thank you and go bills

 

[PFF top 10 defensive lines]

47 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

For me both Oliver and Rousseau are at the good-not-great level.  After that things get interesting.

 

Bosa could return to his former glory.  Or he could spend the season on IR.  Who knows?

I never watched Hoecht very much, but I know that he's a very smart and versatile player who can play DE, DT, and LB.  That means when he's on the field, the offense doesn't necessarily know what defensive alignment we're in, assuming we switch him around.  He could be an interesting X factor.

 

Ogunjobi seems like he could be a good depth piece though PFF only graded him a 49.4 last season.

 

And then there's the rookies.

 

If everyone is as good as we hope, this will be the best DL we've had in a while.  But if our fears materialize (Bosa is hurt, the rookies play like rookies, Hoecht's versatility is misused, Ogunjobi deserves his 40s PFF score, etc.), then our entire defense will struggle.  I'm hoping for the best but right now it all feels iffy to me.  

Unless you're a perennial All pro.. I think the line between good and great is squarely the scheme and the people around you 

 

If we put the right people around ed he will be great..

 

When we get thin and he's forced to play the one technique he gets banged up and he's not as effective 

 

Somebody like Kyle Williams could be good to great depending on his scheme and the people around him throughout the course of his career.. but he had some help... Marcus Stroud was a former pro bowler, Marcel Dareus was all pro... Mario Williams was collapsing the pocket 

 

When the line was just Kyle Williams he's not as effective tho he was still the same guy

 

Ed needs a true 1T to take pressure off of him.. because if he doesn't he's forced to play it.. because he's a beast.. but he's not big enough to withstand that punishment throughout a whole NFL season

 

 

[Dawkins and Torrence "snuck" into the new stadium.]

10 minutes ago, wppete said:

Is Dawkins bigger the Torrens?!?!

Eh they're probably both depending on gravity around six four and a half six five 

 

Probably 325-335 depending on the day 

 

But Dawkins has longer arms

 

Dion like most left tackles is a massive individual

[Who is the worst franchise QB in the NFL?]

4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Herbert is the one I keep waiting for him to become that guy.  Everything about him tells me it’s true but he need to grow some dog in him when the rubber meats the road.

I think he's got a lot of talent but I've literally watched him when he was a high school quarterback and the same has been ringing true for a long time 

 

When the lights are the brightest he doesn't always shine 

 

 he's kind of like a modern day Jay Cutler with a better coach... Who reigned in some of the flaws

 

he has all the physical attributes.. crazy good arm, athleticism, size... There's just a piece missing

[Dawkins and Torrence "snuck" into the new stadium.]

1 minute ago, UConn James said:

Right. Also possible use for situations like lightning in the area. Seen that in college football several times. Also for kids / fan zone experience, and staging area for concerts, etc. Since the stadium will be grass, they may want to be keeping people off of it as much as possible.

 

Frankly, I think the real grass will last maybe five seasons before there’s either a choice or league pressure to switch to artificial turf. OP is not Green Bay.

I mean I'm very pro real grass I don't think with all the new technology there will be a problem keeping sod laid down 

 

Especially with the heated field underneath they should be able to pretty easily keep real grass in a billion dollar stadium

[Who is the worst franchise QB in the NFL?]

This is a purely subjective definition 

 

There's a difference between entrenched starter for a team and a franchise quarterback 

 

Andy Dalton was not a franchise quarterback though he was an entrenched starter for a long period of time 

 

To me franchise quarterback is a guy who could carry his team on his back.. so he has to be elite

 

 

[Dawkins and Torrence "snuck" into the new stadium.]

54 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Barely audible in the video but someone mentions that the new stadium has a small indoor practice field on the lower level under the stands. I recall seeing it when someone posted the floor plans early on. I’m not sure if other new stadiums have a similar feature. I’ve toured a few but have never seen one. Pretty cool! 👍

I would call that a walkthrough field and yes it is nice

[PFF top 10 defensive lines]

2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

And no great players, unless they're weirdly looking at Bosa as a 17-game player in the prime of his career?    

Rankings are subjective and purely opinion 

 

But Oliver is a damn fine football player... And so is Greg..  and so is hoecht and bosa

 

Not to mention our potential guys in relief 

 

I'm not putting an arbitrary number on it but watch hoecht become a fan favorite very quickly