Buffalo716
-
Posts
19,345 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Gallery
Profiles
Forums
Events
Posts posted by Buffalo716
-
-
2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:
I have been saying it constantly for 7 years we have good players on defense. That’s why it’s so frustrating. It’s 100% the scheme. Wade Phillips would have had our defense top 3 and dominating teams in the playoffs. A good defensive coaching scheme we’d have a ring already. This IS the problem
Bills had 12 players on the injury list going into last year's conference championship game .. 8 on defense
Wade Phillips isnt making any miracles out of that lol
-
1
-
2
-
1
-
-
28 minutes ago, boyst said:
Got bad news for you. The Bills are expected to end up having games at the Ralph in 2026 due to missed deadlines.
No They are not
they literally said that the stadium will not be 100% completed by September of 2026 but it will be operational and ready to hold a football game with fans
Just not 100% complete
-
2
-
1
-
1
-
-
53 minutes ago, BigDingus said:
Is that really an issue? I know WNY isn't a huge market, but it's not all about population size with some of these franchises. Like MLB teams in Miami & Tampa Bay, the Islanders in NHL, the Wizards or Suns in the NBA, etc. all have big markets, but they're lower in attendance than most of the leagues they play in. Meanwhile, you have Cleveland, not a huge city, supporting an NBA, NFL & MLB, having great attendance, all with Cincinnati just 3.5 hours away with their own NFL & MLB teams.
It's often just about team success, other times it's about fan loyalty over sheer numbers. In terms of loyalty, look at New Orleans. I doubt the average person living there makes much more money than those in WNY, yet the Pelicans had the 3rd highest NBA attendance & the Saints had the 14th highest NFL attendance.
I think Buffalo can definitely support the Sabres, it's just that they've been terrible for too long, and the organization hasn't done anything to inspire confidence things will improve.
Honestly Buffalo certainly is hockey crazy
It's basically connected to Canada and the cultures intertwined
Buffalo breeds hockey players
Like the city and the surrounding suburbs
The sabers certainly have a big fan base.. it's just they want top dollar for consistent year after year let downs and that just makes it tough
In the NHL we're eight teams make the playoffs per conference and there is also parody it's crazy that the sabres have went this long without the playoffs
especially for a once proud franchise
-
1 hour ago, Beck Water said:
Apparently so, since the Texans just did it.
I thought most top 10 pics.. we're guaranteed.. Possibly even the entire first round
This is definitely striking new water which is probably why there's a decent amount of holdouts... If they can get it get whatever you can get
-
2 minutes ago, Einstein said:
That poster didn't give you the backstory.
That slide was leaked along with several PSE employee comments about how the Pegulas treated their staff.
In that particular meeting, Kim Pegula allegedly told employees—per multiple sources—that their job was to ensure the Pegulas could maintain their lavish lifestyle. She would sooner fire staff earning meager salaries than cancel their lavish vacation to Tahiti.
The message was clear: you're expendable, your job is to fund our lifestyle, and our vacation matters more than you.
It made waves because it was the first time the public got a glimpse of the Pegulas’ not-so-polished side.I get your point but there's no amount of staffers that they can fire that would change their lifestyle lol
That vacation to Tahiti would be coming with or without those staffers
They are billionaires... They have enough money for 12 lifetimes
-
1
-
1
-
-
Josh Allen is my favorite player but I will never slander a Hall of famer like Kelly
Especially in a different era with different rules
Kelly was phenomenal.. he was tall and strong in the pocket.. classic high release, oozed arm strength... Hits his back foot ball is out
He did have pocket maneuverability
Remember in a AFC with Warren Moon and John elway and Dan Marino.. he may not have had the best statistics but he was the big dog
Nobody wanted to see him down three and he had the ball with 2 minutes left.. because he was ice
-
1
-
-
He's definitely watching upstairs with Van and russert and many more
-
5
-
4
-
1
-
-
12 minutes ago, Mat68 said:
Top UDFA’s get fully guaranteed.
not one undrafted free agent this year has a fully guaranteed contract .. they do get three year contracts and some undrafted guys make more than seventh round picks
Benjamin Chukwuma,Jalin Conyers , cobee Bryant , Logan Brown were some the top undrafted free agents
Benjamin got 300,000 guaranteed which was the most.. and that was not his entire contract.. he can earn like 3 million
-
1
-
-
3 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
Yeah, I don’t think anyone was debating that. Including funding your family’s lifestyle on your list of goals while aggressively downsizing and asking those that remain to take on more work is extremely tone deaf though. The article pointed out that according to many it did not help morale there.
I hear ya
Billionaires usually aren't that in touch
-
1
-
-
12 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
That slide was obtained and verified by The Athletic. See for yourself:
I'm pretty sure the goal of any professional sports franchise is win championships sustainability and return on investment
The pegulas are doing nothing groundbreaking there
-
19 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:
Maybe Terry is soiling his drawers because he is 1 billion dollars over budget for the new stadium and contractors are starting to halt the project. They have some LED wall and broadcast gear supposed to be shipped but it has been put on hold. Not needed now but they need to secure the LED walls so current steps for lagging and bolting have been put on hold as contactors want their dough. Getting bad. That's just one small example of the issues. I'm hearing nightmare stories. Like... this aint our last season at current Rich stadium. news to come.... and it will come.
They've already said that the stadium will not be 100% completed by September of the 2026 season but it will be accessible for fans and to hold a game
-
I think Knox is already gone there three four times
And I think kincade was there last year
I mean maybe they want to get some other type of work in
-
3
-
4
-
-
According to the CBA is that even legal
Can a rookie second round pick get a fully guaranteed contract?
-
On 6/21/2025 at 6:15 PM, BillytheKid said:
I did an experiment. I used only advanced stats and AI to find out who the best QB was. I’m making a video for it. I have all of the stats and the voiceovers down for it. Below is the script of it.
i haven’t got the images for it yet. I want to get it out and finished in the next week or two. Found some very interesting things.
It’s about an 8 to 9 minute read below. Let me know if you guys think there is any flaws in it. I tried to not be as bias as possible and just let the advanced stats do the talking. Everything is explained below with how I did it and the scoring. If you read it I hope you enjoy. Some interesting finds.
——————————————————
This is not hype.This is not opinions.
It’s execution—measured across 26 advanced metrics to find the best quarterback of the 2024–25 NFL season.
No bias. No favoritism. Just pure football truth—backed by data.
Traditional stats tell part of the story—but they don’t let you compare great quarterbacks with different styles.
Advanced metrics track every throw’s quality, every risk, every decision.
They strip out noise—and reveal what execution really looks like.
I graded every quarterback across four execution quadrants:
Passing. Rushing. Turnover control. Sack discipline.
Each quadrant had a defined role—and a defined weight.
Also each quarterback must have played at least 15 games during the season to qualify.
Inside each quadrant, we used between two and eleven advanced stats—26 total.
Every QB was evaluated on the same 26.
The result? A 260-point grading system that rewards clean, complete execution.
To score every metric fairly, we used a 10-point scale.
First place got 10 points, second 9, third 8—all the way down to 1 point for 10th place.
Finish outside the top 10? You got zero.
And when there was a tie, we averaged the tied positions.
So if two QBs tied for second, that’s 8.5 points each.
One rule. One scale. All season.
Passing isn’t just the foundation of quarterbacking—it’s the foundation of the Vault.
This quadrant uses 11 advanced metrics, worth 110 total points, to evaluate everything from ball placement to pressure control.
We begin with Intended Air Yards per Attempt and Completed Air Yards per Completion.
These measure how far a quarterback pushes the ball vertically—before and after the catch.
Next: Bad Throw Percentage and On-Target Percentage.
One shows how often the QB missed. The other shows how often he nailed the throw.
Drop Rate isolates when the receiver failed to finish.
Yards After Catch per Completion helps us separate QB value from receiver value.
Then we grade timing with Pocket Time and Time to Throw.
Was the ball coming out fast? Was the pocket steady—or did the QB make it look that way?
Finally: Pressure Rate Faced and Pressure-to-Sack Percentage.
How often was the QB under heat—and what did he do with it?
Passing execution isn’t just about throwing. It’s about decision-making, movement, and results.
Then comes mobility—because passing might be the plan, but not every play goes as planned.
The Rushing quadrant uses 10 metrics, worth up to 100 points, to capture a quarterback’s legs as a weapon.
We looked at Yards Before and After Contact per Attempt.
Broken Tackles. Tackles for Loss.
Then we counted Explosive Runs of 10, 20, and 30+ yards.
Not every run is created equal. Some change the scoreboard.
Rush Directionality showed where QBs had the most success—left, middle, or right.
Red Zone Rushing graded their value in short-yardage chaos.
And finally: Rush EPA—expected points added—put a number on how much value they truly generated.
This wasn’t about highlight runs. It was about situational damage.
That’s what mobility means in the Vault.
But creating yards is only half the job.
The other half? Protecting them.
Let’s talk about turnovers—because execution without security doesn’t last.
The Turnovers quadrant used just two metrics—worth 20 points—but they carried weight.
First: Total Turnovers.
Every interception. Every fumble lost.
Then: Turnover-Worthy Plays.
Throws that should’ve been picked. Fumbles that a teammate bailed out.
Because results can lie—but risk always tells the truth.
Execution means protecting the ball—on purpose and by principle.
Every quarterback gets pressured.
Not every quarterback makes it worse.
Sack Discipline used three advanced metrics, worth 30 points, to measure how well a QB avoids negative plays when the pocket breaks down.
Sack Rate per Dropback graded how often pressure turned into points for the defense.
Pressure-to-Sack Percentage revealed whether the QB escaped—or created his own problem.
And Time to Throw added crucial context: was the sack on the line, or on the guy holding the football?
It’s not just about avoiding losses.
It’s about eliminating them before they begin.
—
But before we show any scores—let’s make one thing clear:
Not every quarterback plays the same game.
Some guys, like Joe Burrow, pass on nearly every play.
Others, like Lamar Jackson, attack with their legs far more often.
So we made the grading fair—for every style.
We weighted each quarterback’s passing and rushing scores based on how often they actually passed or ran.
If a QB passed the ball 93% of the time, we took 93% of their passing score and 7% of their rushing score.
If someone ran 30% of the time, we multiplied their rushing score by that rate.
Everything aligned with real play-calling data—not guesses or assumptions.
For example:
Say Burrow scored 95 points in passing and 40 in rushing. He passed 92% of the time.
That gives him 87.4 for passing and 3.2 for rushing—total: 90.6.
Now say Lamar scored 80 passing and 85 rushing, with a 68% pass rate.
His weighted totals would be 54.4 passing, 27.2 rushing—total: 81.6.
That’s just a sample to show how the formula works—not actual Vault scores.
Because in the Vault, it’s not about how you should play.
It’s about how well you play your game.
Four quadrants.
Twenty-six metrics.
Two hundred and sixty possible points.
Passing measured precision, timing, and command.
Rushing captured mobility, contact balance, and explosive damage.
Turnovers exposed risk, recklessness, and who could be trusted.
Sack Discipline showed who turned pressure into poise—and who turned it into points for the other team.
Each quadrant stood on its own.
But together?
They formed the most complete picture of quarterback execution we’ve ever built.
The tape is real.
The numbers are real.
And now—it’s time to see
Before we crown the full top 10 execution quarterbacks—
Let’s spotlight the QBs who dominated each individual quadrant.
Passing:
The top 3 in precision, depth, and timing:
1. Patrick Mahomes (92)- creativity, touch, trust in chaos.
2. Joe Burrow (91)- footwork, ball placement, and absolute command.
3. Jared Goff (87)- Trust built production, success within structure not outside it.
Rushing:
The top 3 in ground damage and improvisation:
1. Jayden Daniel’s (42)- Unmatched explosiveness, elite scramble EPA, and broken tackle magic
2. Lamar Jackson (40)- Broken tackles, big plays, unstoppable in the red zone
3. Josh Allen (34)- Downhill power with red zone finishing ability
Turnover Control:
The QBs you could trust not to blow it:
1. Jayden Daniel’s (17)- Elite ball security, took risks without recklessness
2. Patrick Mahomes (14.5)- Controlled chaos, trusted windows, avoided traps
Tied at 3.
Josh Allen (14) and Joe Burrow (14)-
Different styles same result: clean tape under pressure
Sack Discipline:
The 3 best at beating pressure:
1. Patrick Mahomes- extended plays without creating losses
2. Joe Burrow- Trusts timing, throws early, avoids disaster
3. Josh Allen- Elite sack avoidance, lowest pressure to sack percentage, and quick decision making
These were the quadrant kings.
But consistency across all four is what earns you a spot in the Vault.
---
We’ve accounted for every stat.
We’ve applied real usage weights to passing and rushing.
And now—each quarterback has their final Vault Score, out of 260.
Let’s count down the 10 most complete execution quarterbacks from the 2024–25 NFL season.
Built on balance.
Defined by discipline.
Welcome to the top 10.
---
#10 – Baker Mayfield (94.0)
“He tightened the chaos.”
Tamed the wild plays, embraced structure throws, and managed risk better than ever. Earned this spot with just enough discipline and a top-10 passing score.
---
#9 – Jalen Hurts (106.0)
“Dangerous legs, high-stakes tape.”
Top-tier rushing impact and explosive threat—but cost himself with sacks and turnover volatility. The tape swung hard both ways.
---
#8 – Jordan Love (107.0)
“Started rough. Finished sharp.”
Execution jumped post-Thanksgiving: cleaner reads, safer throws, stronger structure. Vault rewards that kind of growth.
---
#7 – Jared Goff (119.0)
“Surgical in structure.”
Third-best passing score in the league. TWP rate near zero. He may not move much—but he moved the offense better than most.
---
#6 – C.J. Stroud (133.5)
“Second-year poise, veteran control.”
Vault top 6 in both passing and sack control. Calm presence, consistent mechanics, and a decision-maker you could trust.
---
#5 – Lamar Jackson (146.0)
“This was Lamar in full control.”
He blended rushing explosion with passing efficiency—and drastically cut back on risk.
In fact, if this were only about rushing and passing, Lamar would’ve edged out the top spot I’ve Allen by 1 point.
But sack discipline and turnover rate pulled him back just a touch.
Still, this was his most polished execution tape in years.
—
#4 – Patrick Mahomes (147.5)
“Less chaos. More control.”
Mahomes posted elite scores in three of four quadrants, including the best sack control in football.
This was a version of Mahomes that played clean, smart, and within structure—even if the weapons fell short.
The wild throws were optional. The precision was permanent.
—
#3 – Joe Burrow (151.0)
“He didn’t need the full season. He just needed rhythm.”
Burrow missed time, but when he played, he passed like only Burrow can:
footwork, timing, and a near-flawless understanding of pressure.
Top 3 in passing. Top 3 in sack discipline. No panic. Just precision.
—
#2 – Jayden Daniels (152.0)
“He played like a five-year vet in year one.”
Daniels was the #1 rusher and #1 in turnover avoidance—with enough passing control to hold up against any QB on this list.
He delivered value everywhere on the field—and didn’t make the rookie mistakes.
Efficiency. Composure. And the best Vault debut we’ve ever scored.
—
#1 – Josh Allen (156.0)
“He didn’t just fix his flaws—he buried them.”
Top 3 in three of four quadrants.
Allen weaponized his legs, tightened his decision-making, and became the best sack-avoider in football.
He didn’t just score points—he erased mistakes.
This was Josh Allen’s most complete season of execution.
And in the Vault, completeness wins.
Cool breakdown!
-
1
-
-
6 minutes ago, julian said:
And some people(Kyper) thought Allen should be the 1st overall pick in a loaded QB class.
McDermott is an excellent coach, if he were fired, he would have a job of his choosing before cleaning out his office, but let’s not pretend he’s some QB whisperer lol.
Allen’s incredible self belief, evidenced by his collegiate origin story coupled with offseason determination to get better every year and his historic physical talents are the reason he’s turned himself into the leagues QB1.
It's kiper
And again nobody was downplaying Josh Allen's potential .. even the scouts and pundits who thought he would not make it
All agreed he had tremendous talent just thought he had too many flaws to correct at the NFL level
There's a difference between having tremendous talent versus being polished
.. quarterbacks go in the top 10 every year with tremendous talent and 60% of them bust lol
People's couldn't stop raving about Zack Wilson's talent and he went top three.. and didn't last two seasons in New York ... Jay Cutler was 6'3 235 with a cannon and was trucking SEC linebackers.. he had all the talent in the world
That could have been Josh Allen's fate if it wasn't for his work ethic and for our coaching staff... But guess what most quarterbacks have good work ethics especially if they're going in the top 10 and plenty of them still bust
Josh Allen deserves credit but so does our coaching staff including Sean McDermott
4 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:If it’s any consolation I would never count the number of people who agree as proof of anything. That’s said you’re horrible wrong on this one and should feel deep shame and remorse for your thoughts.
Feel deep shame because I think Sean McDermott is a good coach who would get snatched up in a second if we fired him?
Deep shame because I don't think it would be really easy to upgrade if we got rid of Sean McDermott?
Deep shame because Josh Allen's my favorite player in the world but I do think Sean McDermott has helped develop him? Even though Josh also has to help himself
Yeah I don't really have much deep shame in any of that because anybody with common sense would know it could get a lot worse with a different coach
Grass is not always greener
-
3 minutes ago, stevestojan said:
I’m fine with you having your opinion. It just seems absolutely no one agrees with you by reading the replies. Doesn’t mean you’re wrong, but it sure does point in that direction.
Again, without Josh, he’s nothing. And don’t even give me the Andy Dalton led team that got us to the playoffs as a sign of Clappy’s ability to lead a non-Josh team to the playoffs. Plus that year our strength of schedule was basically negative.
You seem a bit over the top with your defense of a coach who is simply not good enough defensively to take the world’s best football player to the Super Bowl. It’s cool if your his brother or something but your passionate defense of him is a little odd.
Really no one agrees? Because just like in life it's usually those who protest the loudest but they're the smallest in numbers
In fact my original post has six likes zero dislikes
It's the people who don't agree with me who are making a scene .. but I respond to everybody as I always have
We can agree to disagree but don't act like nobody agrees with me
And Bill belichick is seven and three versus Andy Reid an undefeated in the playoffs
And Andy Reid just got out coached and his ass whooped in the super bowl and Bill belichick never got out coached that bad in a super bowl in his life.. he always found a wrinkle to at least keep it close
-
1
-
1
-
-
2 minutes ago, stevestojan said:
it’s still really really really really bad for a “defensive minded” HC. So the stat is wrong and he’s only second or third worst in that category? Not anything to crow about. He’s the sole reason Josh doesn’t have at least two rings.Andy Reid gives up 31.5 points per game in his last five playoff losses
And his defense has been a lot healthier in the playoffs than Sean mcdermotts
What's your excuse for him
The bills had 14 players on the injury report going into our conference championship game.. that's ridiculous
There's zero proof that we would have two rings without Sean McDermott.. that is your opinion my friend
-
1
-
-
3 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
He was 41-55 as a HC before Brady arrived. Andy Reid was 11-13 in the playoffs before Mahomes arrived, McD has a losing record in games Josh Allen doesn't start in. If a coach isn't capable of approaching a similar status as they did with said HOF QB, is it not a reasonable conclusion to say the QB is likely driving more of the outcome than the HC?
Plenty of examples exist of HOF QB's with multiple HC's. How many HOF coaches without HOF QB's? It is possible to look at performance separately and draw some conclusions. All of which really don't support what you're saying.
Andy Reid also has a losing record against Bill belichick
Bill belichick took a McCorkle Jones lead Patriots team to the playoffs
I'm sorry I hated the Patriots dynasty.. Bill belichick is without a doubt the greatest football coach of all time defensive coordinator through head coach
Bill belichick does not get out coached in the super bowl like Andy Reid did.. belichick always find a wrinkle
Andy Reid got out coached and his ass whooped.. belichick would have had his team more prepared to keep it closer
-
5 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
To those that choose to do so. What was Bill without Tom again?
The coach who took the Cleveland browns to the playoffs.. and after they fired him only went once in 22 years?
The coach who stopped the greatest offense in NFL history versus the bills no huddle offense...
probably the greatest defensive coordinator of all time with head coaching statistics that will make a grown man cry
The guy who took the Patriots to the playoffs with McCorkle Jones... Which is more impressive than most coaches have on their resume
-
1 minute ago, Mikie2times said:
Because the QB gives them stability, not the other way around. Very few coaches raise the needle in a significant way. More can lower the needle in a signifigant way. I don't think McD lowers it by any stretch, but I also don't think he's one of the few that raise it. Andy Reid, Sean McVay are two people. Maybe a couple more, but it's a very short list.
Awesome will agree to disagree Sean McDermott to me is a tremendous coach
If you had to say McDermott or Josh Allen I'm obviously taking Josh Allen cuz he's our general
But I'm not throwing Sean McDermott under the bus
-
1
-
-
1 minute ago, Mikie2times said:
Which you can certainly credit McD for. But the narrative that McD groomed Allen just never held up for me. In the early years they barely had a relationship. It was all Dabs. Allen worked a ton with Palmer. He was driven to be great. McD focused on his defense.
Bill belichick gets credit for developing tom Brady
-
1 minute ago, Mikie2times said:
The split of who contributed more in that arrangement is overwhelming toward Brady, and yes, Josh would have been just fine in Chicago. Guarantee it. As would have Tom somewhere else. They both didn't need somebody else to tell them to put in the work. This isn't a guy playing in a Bill Walsh mastermind system. Both are primarily defensive coaches who stressed not screwing up. With Josh, so much to the extent that it nearly screwed HIM up.
I never said Josh Allen would not have been pretty good.. I said Josh Allen would not be the Josh Allen we know
There's been plenty of physically gifted quarterbacks who don't pan out.. in fact Jay Cutler was a 6'3 230 lb monster with a cannon who was trucking linebackers in the SEC
I think Josh is more likely that in Chicago.. good not transcendent
A transcendent player always needs somebody to tango with.. there's never been a surefire Hall of Fame greatest ever quarterback who didn't have a tremendous coach lol they kind of go hand in hand
-
1
-
-
1 minute ago, Goin Breakdown said:
I don't think it was McD that coached him up. It was the staff surrounding him at the time, his own drive to be great, working with Palmer and so on. McD has a job because of Josh plain and simple. 13 seconds with another team and QB and McD is gone.
That's like saying Bill belichick gets no credit for developing Tom Brady because he's a defensive guy
He absolutely gets partial credit for helping develop Tom Brady and I 100% do not think Tom Brady would be Tom Brady if he got drafted anywhere else besides with belichick
Tom Brady left as a 40-year-old man a fully developed professional and won.. I don't think Tom Brady getting any other coach at 22 years old turns him into what he is
-
1
-
-
22 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
You're crazy if you think Josh Allen still doesn't become a star without McDermott, but flip that around. I don't think McDermott is able to be so process like without Josh. The entire dynamic changes. Silly argument to take here, you're better off crediting him for picking Josh than developing him. By most accounts he's virtually hands off the offense and has zero experience with QB play.
No I don't think if Josh Allen gets drafted to the Chicago bears that he's the same Josh Allen
It always takes two to tango in the NFL
Tom Brady is not Tom Brady if he doesn't go to Bill belichick at 22 years old
You're crazy if you think we draft Tom Brady and he becomes the greatest ever lol
No Bill belichick gets credit for helping
22 minutes ago, QCity said:yeah, a top-10 pick was a nobody.
Misconstruing what I'm saying that he was not a bona fide stud
He was not a Peyton Manning level prospect.. he was not an Andrew luck level prospect .. he was a zero star recruit who had immense physical tools who even half of pro scouts didn't think it would ever pan out..people on TV were calling him trash
There were plenty of professional scouts who did not think he would be able to fix his flaws.. he was a mystery everybody said he needed to develop
Everybody said he had insane potential but he had a lot to learn.. guess what Sean McDermott helped him grow and learn
-
2
-
1
-
I want to catch one last game at Rich Stadium late in the year...
in The Stadium Wall
Posted
It's probably just some finishing touches
I'm sure all the bathrooms and concessions and seats will be there
It will probably be like finishing touches