Buffalo716
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1 minute ago, mead107 said:
Now all you have to do is come to the TBD tailgate this year
Unfortunately I only made it to one game last year. December against the Phins.
Hoopefully I can make more
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Just now, Gugny said:
Take this crap to PPP.
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7 minutes ago, SWATeam said:
I don't like him. Looks to me like he needs to get going downhill to be effective, needs a lot of space. I don't see any vision. Give me Penny or Michel.
He doesn't have good vision and that's why he's a 4th round pick unlike Michel who will be gone in the second
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Just now, SWATeam said:
Was he even the starter for Daboll last year?
No but he was coming off a broken leg and they have 3-4 five * RBs
He is built for the NFL
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4 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:
you!!
I blame you for cuse struggling this year!!!
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I have been here exactly one year and I would just like to thank everybody at TBD for welcoming me with open arms and I really appreciate it
I love the Buffalo Bills and I think we have the best fans in the world and This site represents the diversity of Bills fans
and I'm glad a lot of my old friends from bbmb came over as well
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1 minute ago, PIZ said:
Saquon Barkley in HS:
Zeke Elliot in HS:
I saw Barkley in HS but Zeke was playing ball in Missouri so I never saw him until OSU
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12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
50 TD. 10.6 YPC. 2155 yds. In other words, pretty much.
Sounds like my statistics
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when I was 13 lmao
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1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I saw Zeke play in HS on a regular basis. He was unreal. A man among boys even then.
I bet he was unstoppable in HS
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6 minutes ago, billspro said:
Do you think his release is going to be a big deal? I hate weird deliveries as well, but I think he still has a quick enough release and throws with enough anticipation to make it work.
I doubt it will change in the NFL, very rarely is a QB able to change their throwing motion long term.
I am really hoping the Browns take Allen. Then the Bills will have a chance to trade up for Darnold or Rosen. I don't think we will be able to trade into the top 2.
I don't like it and I don't think he will improve it that much
but his arm is plenty strong and he throws with good enough anticipation to mitigate it imo
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Just now, LABILLBACKER said:
We're all patiently waiting for Reilly to get his chance.
Tons of late round and undrafted WRs have made their impact from Stevie Johnson to Victor Cruz, to Adam Thielin and Danny Amdendola and many more
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2 minutes ago, H2o said:
I'm a ND fan so I too am high on Nelson. He is gonna be one of the top interior lineman for years to come barring injury. That being said, Barkley has a larger impact on a game over all. He is a faster version on Zeke. We all see what Elliott has done thus far.
Definitely. I think they are different players in that Barkley gives you blocking ability, return ability and catching ability at high levels
even though I think Zeke was a SLIGHTLY better runner coming out
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Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
..unless I am wrong as usual, I thought he did a nice job showing his wares in TC and pre-season.....then again, I felt the same way about the Hogan kid who was tagged as "good riddance" and has woefully sucked with Pats......
I definitely wasn't the biggest Hogan fanboy but I did realize he was solid and getting better.
Reilly can be a steal. These days there are about 40-50 WRs a year with draftable grades compared to 25-30 15 years ago...
some kids that go undrafted have serious potential... just battled things like injuries and concentration drops (like Reilly at Nebraska)
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9 minutes ago, H2o said:
Barkley is the top prospect in this draft at any position. Yes he is.
Thats a tough 1...
There are so many variables with RBs but Nelson from ND looks like a future All Pro and HoF
He might be 1 to Barkley at 2 lol I'll take both
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5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
...Sammy may have burned too many bridges on his way out...besides, show me the O'Reilly kid first........
I'd like to see more of this kid too... if he gets stronger this offseason I think he can develop nicely
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1 hour ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said:
Didn't read entire thread. Have you looked at Mike White? If so, how do compare his future to Rudolph's ? TY.
I have Lamar Jackson , and white left
I just finished Rosen pretty much so I will put his up asap
Them Jackson and White round out my big 7... i haven't watched much white so I will take atleast 1 week to watch every snap
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5 minutes ago, JohnC said:
We really are not disagreeing. For the most part we are in accord. Where I will no longer exhibit patience is on the issue of the qb. Any GM who doesn't secure a credible qb over a reasonable period of time is a failure. The Bills have not had a legitimate franchise qb for almost a quarter century, since the retirement of Kelly. That is a disgrace and an embarrassment. On that issue/metric Whaley didn't get the job done.
I fully agree. Not making QB a priority is why the Bills have been "the Bills" for the last 18+ years
No excuses, get a young stud
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2 minutes ago, JohnC said:
Whaley and his scouts did the scouting and put together the board that McDermott worked off of. My understanding is that McDermott made the draft selections. I used to be a Whaley supporter but the excuses for me ran out a long time ago. When you bring up the issue of cap management you can't look at it just from a financial sense. Inherent in cap management is the ratio between talent and cost. The cap and the talent are inextricably intertwined. A big mistake in a cap decision certainly impacts the talent you can bring on board.
What undercut Whaley more than anything else is that he didn't get a franchise qb. Shortly after his departure he was asked in an interview if he had to do it over what would he do differently. Without hesitation his response was to be more aggressive on the qb issue. Duh!!!!!
I understand your point that Whaley had to contend with working with coaches that he didn't hire. It certainly contributed to his struggles. The Rex albatross certainly wasn't his fault. That hire did more to sabotage him than anything else other than not having an adequate qb. And for that he is primarily responsible for that failure.
What I can say now under the McBeane regime there is more coherency and strategic thinking within the organization than their has been in a long time. There is no question that this regime is an upgrade over the Whaley and previous regime.
Oh im not arguing that it's not better. Whaley certainly had his faults which led to his downfall
and this regime seems to be coordinated
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3 minutes ago, JohnC said:
When the owner interviewed McDermott for the HCing job the wrestling coach was ready to lay out his plans not only how a roster should be built but also how an organization should be structured. The owner was impressed at how in detail his blueprint was to enliven the owner's moribund franchise. Whaley had his own template. The template that the wrestling coach offered was not only much different but it was much more thoughtful and comprehensive. McDermott's approach to assembling a roster was more coherent and thematic compared to a more patchwork approach that Whaley practiced. Included in the candidate's roster building approach was the importance of properly structuring the cap. With McDermott there is a priority in balancing out the cap. Whaley had a tendency to look at contracts for players on an individual level. While McDermott saw a greater importance at taking a more strategic view at how it affected the roster in general and how it affected future decisions and options.
Once the owner hired McDermott there was no way that Whaley was going to be kept. There were two world visions that couldn't be reconciled. The decision to fire the former GM was inevitable once the owner made the decision to hire the wrestling coach. And once the hire was made Whaley knew what his fate was.
Whaley survived multiple coaches and was as good as gone when Rex was fired...
but you don't get rid of a GM a few months before the draft. He already did so much work for it... and besides, whaleys real problem was cap management not finding talent
McDermott identified guys he liked for the draft and What he would like to accomplish and Whaley did his job
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1 minute ago, T master said:
He just freakishly hurt his shoulder at the bench press in his first 3 try's at the combine !!
Yea I know ! Doesn't look good . Feel bad for the kid
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2 minutes ago, buffalostu2 said:
I believe that was Buddy Nix's desperation parting move trying to leave the organization on the rise. I don't think you can pin that on Doug especially when he has been heard saying that his biggest mistake was not going out and getting a franchise QB.
This was more of what happened.
Buddy said FOR YEARS he wasn't leaving before finding us a QB... Then the 2013 draft rolls around...
just released fitz, no QB, and Buddy did what he promised ... drafted a QB and stepped down soon after
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13 minutes ago, JohnC said:
It's apparent that KC had a high view of Mahomes as a draft prospect. And after watching him in practice for a season it's also apparent that he met their expectations as demonstrated by their trade of Smith who still had time on his contract.My intention is not to debate about a particular qb as it is to emphasize that especially for a team that doesn't have a franchise qb you have to make it a priority to address that issue.
Repeating what I have already said once that position is addressed a team has so many more options in building a roster. Without that issue solidified your team will continue to flounder.
Obviously they are sold on him and I understand your point
the top QBs this year are far ahead of last years draft
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21 minutes ago, JohnC said:
I would give up both of our first round picks, a second and include either a first or second round pick next year. If it takes more such as dealing off Cordy Glenn I would still consider it a fair deal. My line of thinking is if you believe as I do that the Bills are still in a multi-year rebuilding mode to become a serious team then the one essential ingredient is to acquire a franchise qb. Once the qb is secured then the team has more options to take through the future drafts, free agency and trades to bring in more talent.
Getting a legitimate franchise qb is more of a priority than addressing any other position. You can get useful temporary fill-ins for other position from free agency but it is unlikely that you can get an upper scale qb through free agency or trades. Another advantage of drafting a top tier qb is that for the next few years you are paying less for a premium position than if you sought your franchise qb through the market.
Just think how differently we would be looking at this drafit if last year the Bills would have drafted a qb such as Mahomes or Watson? The priority mission this year is to get a high level prospect on board and then work on broadening the talent on the roster.
Definitely though I'm still not sold on Mahomes..
Watson on the other hand I had rated much higher
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25 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said:
716: If you are Beane, how much would you be willing to get Rosen?
I think it it all depends on the trading partner and what they need.
I'd give both firsts this year and probably even a 2nd next year if it would get it done but it probably wouldn't
Realistically that's like only giving up a first and second because we would be swapping one of our firsts to select Rosen
Nobody's posted this yet?!?!
in Off the Wall Archives
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I feel like I did see this here