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I'm watching a delayed feed and that happened exactly as I was reading your post. It was trippy.

I don't think I said anything that crazy. Have you been watching this game?

Also: garbage officiating. I know it doesn't matter too much, but when you call a phantom offside on an onside kick, you're just being an insufferable A-hole.

I love that we're down 27 points in a game where Tyrod outplayed the opposing QB, and some people don't think there's anything wrong except our QB. Wish we had seen this passing offense earlier in the game. It's like our game plan is just running for negative yards on first down no matter what, and then hope Tyrod can escape a blitz on 2nd and long.

He didn't trade himself.

To be fair, the referees have been about as bad as our defensive line tonight. We're not getting any pressure, but we're also getting blatantly held every single play.

Probably when he stops getting 100+ passer ratings and we don't lead the league in 1st down runs for loss.

Two fumbles in two plays. This is all Tyrod's fault. He shouldn't have thrown to the middle. Everyone knows he can't make those throws.

And on that one, a three-man rush bulldozed our O-line and hit his arm as he was about to throw. That's why he tucked it instead of getting rid of it. That one is also on the line.

Skrine tripped him as he was getting beat on the route.

I have more confidence in McDermott to make halftime adjustments than any other coach during the drought. We're lucky to only be down by 3. If we can stop getting manhandled at the lines this will be a much better second half.

Dirty play by Skrine. Zay beat him and probably had a TD there. Our offensive line might as well just lie down on the field every snap. At least they couldn't get pushed into Taylor that way.

And instead of stepping up in a clean pocket, he shuffles directly into pressure on the right side. We disagree on a lot of things, but Tyrod being a long-term solution isn't one of them. I just wish coaches' hubris wouldn't cause us to go from top defense to bottom defense from one regime to the next and then above average offense to still-to-be-determined-but-not-promising from that regime to the current one. We know how to maximize a limited QB already, from prior experience. Maybe don't f with it just because you can. Edit -- Zay is not equivalent to Sanders yet. He looks very promising, but that's a silly comparison.

Obviously it's hard to watch as a Bills fan / player / coach, but they didn't deal him because they thought he lacked skill. They dealt him because they 1) succumbed to the typical "get rid of all the previous GM's "guys"" and 2) don't want to build a team around a player who may not play half the season. I get the trade, I supported the trade, I didn't necessarily like the trade. But yeah, we all have to grin and bear it when Watkins, Woods, and Goodwin all simultaneously perform at the highest level they ever achieved with the Bills, but for a different team. I really wish we would have been able to keep Woods at a modest salary. He was [mostly] solid, and would have helped Tyrod tremendously.

None of that is true. Watch the replay. He didn't use his arms at all.

Wrong. No arms, no interference. True, with respect to the "putrid" aspect. I think our offensive game calling limited his options and were easily defended. There were no options, no screens, no deep balls called. When you make Tyrod try to be Brady, he will fail. That's a coaching problem.

Love that Tyrod haters are barely literate. That was a garbage game all around. Peterman would have turned it into a blowout.

It wasn't a perfect throw that led him into the endzone, but #1 WR's make that catch all day long and give their team 1st & goal at the 1. Tyrod could be Aaron Rodgers, but he's not. Make the catch you're paid to make.

So running McCoy 12 times for a total of 9 yards isn't a play calling issue? Tyrod missed some open guys, but their game plan was dog $#it.

Arms were never extended. There was no push-off whatsoever. Players are allowed to use their bodies to create space. Unless you're the Bills, obv.

Offense was terrible. But am I really the only person who gets livid about phantom penalties at the end of the game? We were driving hard and we got F###ed by a BS penalty. Game over. Say what you want about the rest of the game, but that one call determined the outcome.

Seconded. Gaines looked capable in a scheme that's supposed to be his strength, but he didn't reach "impressive" to me.

I hear that, but I also like being able to read a specific take and its responses without having to wade through 30 pages of a generalized thread. I really don't see any problem with multiple threads about the same player if they approach it in different ways or ask different questions.

I'll also say this about preseason in general: it's certainly not a barometer of a team's regular season capabilities, but it is definitely an indicator of individuals' capabilities. Taylor's struggles, to me, were alarmingly awful. That lies mostly with him, but the offensive line also may as well have not even played. They were seriously manhandled: instantly and consistently.

I like Tyrod, and I thought we could win with him. However, that would have required a talented, healthy receiving corps and a drastically improved defense. The recent trades have pulled the rug out from under any chance of that. To be clear, I'm not against the trades. But the fact that they happened means that we might as well be testing the trade market with Tyrod. You don't trade your QB's best receiver during preseason unless you've at least partially resigned yourself to a losing season. I believe Beane and McDermott when they say they're still trying to win, but their primary goal is clearly aimed at the future. That being said, there's little reason to keep a quarterback around who could be the difference between a top-5 pick and a 10-ish pick.