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That's what I thought, but either the rule was changed at some point or I was wrong the whole time. As far as I can tell, that's only a rule through college. In the NFL rules, you can't touch it even if you re-establish yourself in bounds. The part they messed up is that this only applies if you go out of bounds on your own or are legally forced out (like if the Ravens defender had just stood in the way and Keon went out of bounds while going around him). But he was clearly pushed out so it should have been illegal contact or at least voided the illegal touching penalty.

This post is exactly right. No player is allowed to touch the ball after going out of bounds. There's no such thing as "re-establishing" for a player who is the first to touch the ball (only applies to players who don't touch the ball). However, the rule was not applied correctly since he was illegally pushed out of bounds. If they're going to call illegal touching, they also have to call illegal contact as the reason he was out of bounds in the first place. But, if they actually called illegal contact then the illegal touching rule wouldn't apply since he was illegally forced out and the catch would have stood. So overall, a complete screw job from every angle of the rule. Pretty standard.

Every single game. Especially against good opponents. You could make an entire football field out of the length of short spots we get throughout a season. Or in one game against KC. What the rule really says is that if a player fakes a slide, the ball is spotted where he began to fake it. They also apply that to real slides, which is not what the rule says at all but they just make ***** up as it suits them.

Yep. Lamar did the same thing the kid did, and he's an adult professional athlete. And his teammates were the ones who instigated the situation. Ban both from all NFL stadiums 😁 No but really, all those Ravens players deserve fines and Lamar should probably get a one game suspension.

Exactly. They were provoking the fans purposely. That still doesn't give any fan the right to put hands on the players, but the Ravens players created this situation intentionally.

I guess that all depends how much he's influencing play calling. But three failed two point conversions and no challenge on an obvious first down don't look good either.

The players pulled this win out of the chasm that the coaches created. Allen especially but Oliver was the defensive player of the game. Keon and Palmer with amazingly clutch plays (I wonder if Keon would have gone down on his own if he hadn't gotten tripped up? Haha). And of course Shakir was just perfect all game.

"Glad we finally fired McDermott."

Yup. If anyone came away from that game thinking anything other than "pressure with 4," they missed the point completely. It's a cheat code.

Who also had a sack and multiple pressures. The Chiefs only had 17 snaps by halftime and the game was over. Imagine a team having a run stuffer who can also collapse the pocket? What a nightmare!

It's obviously both. But the key is that the Eagles get pressure with 4 linemen (yes, in two seconds) and they can keep all of their back 7 in coverage and force him to make a throw before he can think or before his receivers get open. We had a great secondary last year. It didn't matter against good QBs because they stood in the pocket for 6 seconds while our defensive line was out to lunch.

The Eagles have a 340 pound monster at DT. That's why they can wreck Mahomes without blitzing and we can't even get within spitting distance if we send the entire front 7.

Holy cow. Half asleep and half buzzed. No wonder you can't remember anything.

If Kincaid made that catch they'd just call us for holding on the next play.

Those are called dreams, old fan. They happen when you fall asleep after the first drive.

But they didn't have a shot. That's the point. They did it, and it was just taken away. If they had done it again, it would have been taken away again.

Yeah I'm thinking the same. Way too much time and effort for a predetermined outcome.

Spotting "issues" like turning a game winning drive into a turnover on downs? Just small things like that?

Sorry, old fan, you must have fallen asleep. Just trust those of us that actually watched the game.

The first drive he had two bad throws that could have been picked. After that he was pretty much lights out. I think you're counting one against him where he knew he had a free play on a holding call.

There were a lot of plays where they spotted us about three steps too short.

Because we're clearly better than the Chiefs. We were not clearly better than the Ravens. Unfortunately for all of us, no one is better than the referees.

He threw a perfect 20 yard pass to Kincaid with 2 rushers in his face within 1 second of the snap. He also got blasted after the throw, which the refs threw a flag on and then picked up because he's not Mahomes.

My only problem with McDermott is that he hasn't figured out how to work the officials. Belichick had the NFL in his pocket, now Reid has the NFL in his pocket. There are politics involved that McDermott is oblivious to. He thinks he's playing a fair game. Although, it might be well above his pay grade for such a thing.

Officiating. It's really that simple, folks.