jrober38

What a weird story. He obviously wasn't in the store, but thank goodness he was stopped. I think the issue remains though, that laws have to change to keep guns out of these lunatics hands in the first place. The entire developed world has essentially turned in their guns and are doing just fine. This is such over the top fear mongering it's outrageous.

What about "well regulated"? Probably most of them, because that's where most of the American population is concentrated. If there are more people, the odds are pretty clear that something will happen more frequently. I imagine the same holds true for speeding tickets. Well in this specific situation, the rest of the developed world doesn't have anywhere close to the same issues with mass shootings as the US has. It would probably be smart to study why people don't shoot up Walmarts, schools, movie theatres, etc in other counties, to understand why it only seems to happen with any frequency in the USA.

I have no idea. They have a tiny economy and US exports there are next to nothing. Brazil is a massive net exporter of agricultural products so I wouldn't count on them making up much of what China isn't buying anymore.

- Establish a two tiered Federal Licensing system. - Tier 1 is for current gun owners (Possession License). You get to keep ALL of your weapons, however you cannot acquire new ones without a Tier 2 License. - Tier 2 is for future gun owners (Acquisition License). You can purchase weapons. - To get an Acquisition License to purchase firearms, applicants need to pass a written test that focuses on laws and theory, as well as a practical test that demonstrates proper gun safety and good practices for transporting and storing firearms. Have it run by vets or former police. - Once the test is passed, applicants submit themselves to an extensive background check, and have to provide numerous references as part of an extensive background check. - If their application is successful, Acquisition License holders can buy rifles, shotguns, handguns, semi auto rifles. - Acquisition License Renews every 5 years, with a fresh background check. If not renewed, you default to Possession License. - Gun show and private sales of weapons are illegal. You'd need to use a registered gun supplier who would intermediate the background check and verify that the purchaser has a proper license. Potential Add Ons: - Military style "accessories" like silencers, pistol grips, drum magazines, etc, are made illegal. - Weapon capacities are imposed and limited to 10 rounds in any weapon. High capacity magazines are illegal.

I think you underestimate how fragile modern farming is to family run farms. If you planted soy beans this year, and you planned on selling them to China, you're screwed.

I know. Obama was pretty useless as a President. I think he ran with decent intentions but quickly fell into the black hole that is Washington D.C. politics.

The partisanship is based off of the GOPs refusal to do anything about gun laws, and the fact that mass shootings continue to happen month after month, year after year. Doing nothing is clearly not an option, yet that's the GOP's stance and the vast majority of Americans don't agree with them on this issue.

GUN CONTROL IS CLEARLY A PARTISAN ISSUE. One side for the most part wants common sense gun laws, and the other completely refuses to discuss the issue.

I'm not running from anything. You seem to be extremely disappointed that one of these guys was a clear cut terrorist who went out and murdered Latinos because he felt there were invading the country (where have we heard that before?). You're acting like it's unfair one guy is being labelled a terrorist, and the other guy is mostly being labelled as a crazy person, because they have 5-6 years worth of clear signs of mental illness, and you're pissed about it. I don't know of many terrorists who kill their sister in their "terrorist attack". It's incredibly bizarre.

You seem to be really upset that the El Paso shooter was a terrorist. Very bizarre.

It didn't have to happen. Instead the US soybean farmer was essentially just put out of business yesterday.

If you want to suggest Shooter 2 wasn't just a crazy guy with a gun, do more than just tell me I'm spinning things.

What spin? Are you suggesting the El Paso shooter wasn't a terrorist?

Suggesting a mass shooting is a partisan issue boggles my mind.

There's nothing partisan about it. Shooter #1 was a domestic terrorist. I don't see how that could be up for debate at all. Shooter #2 just seemed like a deranged kid with no motive. In the current political climate, where Trump describes Latinos as an infestation and invasion, it's news when a guy takes those words and goes and shoots a bunch of Latinos and says he's doing it for the same reasons the POTUS has used in his speeches.

I agree with this. Trump has shown a major lack of understanding on how global commodity markets work. China will now secure the purchase of food from other suppliers around the world. When those connections are made, they'll no longer need the US, and that market might be gone entirely for US farmers. Global trade decisions aren't made on a whim like Trump suggests they are. These networks are extremely complicated, and if a country like China is going to rework how they feed their people, they're not going to do it with an outlook of only a few months, or until the trade war ends sometime China is going to rework their food supply network indefinitely, and it's not going to involve US Farmers.

I don't think it's a huge issue. One guy wrote a manifesto and drove 10 hours to an area highly concentrated with Latinos, and proceeded to shoot a bunch of Latinos (including some others). This qualifies as terrorism. The other guy just seems like a crazy person. He bought a gun, got the biggest magazine he could find, and went into the entertainment district of Dayton and unloaded, killing his sister and other randoms. Shooter #1 was a terrorist. Shooter #2 was just a crazy guy with a gun. The terrorist, regardless of their colour and religious beliefs, is always going to get the majority of the attention. Exactly. The only noticeable difference between the US and the rest of the developed world is that the US has gun laws that allow pretty much anyone to purchase a weapon. All of the developed world has video games, all of the developed world has people with mental illness, yet the US is the only country where deranged men regularly kill large numbers of random people in public places.

Anyway you define it, this is something the US sees happen far more than any other developed country. The notion that bad guys will always find guns simply doesn't ring true with any consistency anywhere else in the developed world. My opinion is that if you make it harder to get guns, these loner, lone wolf shooters with no social skills usually have no idea how to find the black market let alone purchase a high powered rifle there. The black market is a place for career criminals to find weapons, but I don't think the type of deranged psycho who wants to kill a bunch of random people will have any success buying illegal weapons there, otherwise you'd see these things happen way more in other developed countries around the world.

Nope. No hyperbole whatsoever. The US is the only country in the developed world where this happens on a regular basis. There have been 248 incidents in the US in 2019 where 4 or more people have been wounded or killed in a shooting. It's only August 5th. That's over 8 per week on average.

This is BS. There are evil people all over the world, in every developed county, and the US is the only one with a mass shooting epidemic.

They're not relatable. Chicago has about 2.7 million people, or 0.8% of the country's population. I don't have exact numbers, but I imagine that tens of millions, if not 100 million Americans shop at Walmart at least once a month. When people die in Chicago, no one cares because it'll never affect them because they don't live there. When people get massacred in Walmart on a Friday night, it's a completely different story.

Of course there's a preference. There's a preference in every aspect of news, because these companies pay the bills by generating ad revenue that comes from ratings. Trying to enact gun law change based off what happens in Chicago would be the most futile thing imaginable because middle America couldn't care less. When someone walks into Walmart on a Friday evening and blows away 22 people and wounds as many more with an assault rifle, middle America sure as hell can relate to that because that's where they shop. Just because Chicago doesn't get any coverage doesn't mean the people asking for gun law changes don't care. The issue I guess is that when mass shootings tragically do happen, you need something as relatable as what happened on the weekend for people to stop and think that it could have been them. And lastly, I don't think banning guns is a solution because as you said it'll never happen. With that said, a Federal registry and licensing system needs to be established where only license holders who have had their background extensively checked and passed a rigorous gun safety course can purchase firearms. That won't stop all shootings, but if it stops even one mass killing, I think it's a no brainer that it will have all been worth it. Doing nothing is not an option. Something has to be done and the GOP can't just sit around and pretend these shootings aren't happening.

I don't think the media has a preference. Unfortunately these mass shootings are made a big deal of because 1. they really only happen with regularity in America and 2. if a bunch of civilians getting mowed down in Walmart can't assist in enacting change, nothing will. After Sandy Hook I realized nothing will ever change. 20 kids mowed down by a complete psychopath and nothing changed.

Mass shootings required easy access to high powered weapons capable of a high rate of fire. 50 years ago your average American didn't own an AR-15. The Dayton shooting lasted 24 seconds before police killed the gunman. In that time he killed 9 and injured many more. Even when there are good guys with guns, these weapons are capable of extreme carnage in a very short amount of time.

I think you give these type of people way too much credit.