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Rosen has had 2 concussions already. Definitely an issue in the NFL. Allen has the most upside and Beane is looking to make a dent. He must have confidence here. We are not talking about a guy who was rumored to be falling past anything lower than the middle of the first round, and in those mocks other QBs often feel even further. Let's take a deep breath.
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20 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:
Get over it. He's a really bad draft pick and most pundits in this country have said that for a long time.
It's gonna remain like this around here until if and when he can start to prove his detractors wrong.
Meh, those same pundits had him going no worse than the top half of the first round.
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15 minutes ago, Adam727 said:
AND we overpaid on the trade up by a Mile. It cost us 2 2nds to move up from 12 to 7, but only cost the Cardinals a 3rd and a 5th to move up from 15 to 10 for Rosen.
We had competition at 7. I thought that was rather obvious. That's why we overpaid. Likely the Cards and maybe even another team were trying to snag that pick because the Bucs were clearly trying to trade down. We knew who we wanted and were worried someone else would get him.
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We got a shoe store! B
We had Rosen or Allen and given Rosen's injury history against Allen's upside it's a tough call. Only time will tell. Maybe we could have just sat at 12 and gotten one of them, but I think they would have both been gone by then so the move was necessary.
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Allen kicked Rosen's ass in the Wonderlic. ;-) Also, Allen hasn't suffered 2 concussions already like Rosen.
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9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Obviously not nfl teams. Mike Mayock is one of my favorites but he had Blaine Gabbert (who Allen reminds me of) rated higher than Cam Newton.
Hard to say how all the NFL teams had him rated. Maybe the Bills had him #1 from the start. I didn't see any mock draft where Allen fell further than 14, and when he did fall usually another QB fell even further. Allen has a stronger arm than Gabbert.
Don't forget - Rosen has suffered 2 concussions already. Allen is much more durable and that is likely a factor as well.
Let's hope the high ceiling applies in this case, and we found ourselves a guy in the mold of Big Ben. Man I hated when we just missed out on Big Ben all those years ago (notwithstanding the off-field issues).
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Hard to say, but we also need to remember Rosen suffered two concussions already. That may be a problem for him going forward in the NFL. I think Allen is more durable, so you might throw him behind our crappy line earlier and give him this season if he beats out AJ.
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Many people had Allen as the best QB this year, and up until early today I read that the Browns were still considering either Allen or Mayfield at 1. CBS gave us an A+ for the pick. Let's see how it goes.
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What did we get...a bunch of shoes in the first round?
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There was a cute video where Incognito punked some people in the Bills store, and one of the young kids said, unknowing that Incognito was standing disguised in front of him, that Incognito was one of his favorite players when he saw Incognito's shirt hanging in the store. Incognito has to remember that kid and handle his Twitter feed better.
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Thomas had 456 catches to Simpson's 203? Different eras, of course, but that shows his versatility. One forgets how much more a player needs to learn to be such a part of the passing offense on passing downs. Blitz pickups, formation changes, etc. There's a reason why so few RBs are great 3-down backs. Adrian Peterson, for example, is only a 2-down back.
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1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:
I don't blame people for rehashing and discussing the past... its just I spent so much time doing it, I don't feel like really getting into it (trust me, I could get going).
To me, the end result turned favorable, whether it was truly intended or not. I'm happy with that and am trying to stay in more of a positive frame of mind about the franchise moving forward.
The team's stability in Buffalo in the later years had a lot to do with Wilson recognizing he was in advanced age. Move the team, he would have to dip into his pocket, pay a relocation fee, probably finance a portion of the stadium, build a brand/fanbase, etc.... which would be a great long-term investment... but he recognized the Wilsons were OUT once he passed away. It was much more financially sound remaining in Buffalo and collecting dependable shared revenue.
Selling the team wasn't an option because his family would be double-taxed, on both the sale, then the inheritance.
Basically running out the clock, being as financially prudent as possible was the mode of the Bills for a long time. I don't really blame him. It stunk as a fan though.
I would argue, he almost paved the way for a move to Toronto with the series and agreement with Ted Rogers. Rogers passed away though and his holdings became kind of complicated and spread through the family who weren't on the same page. I would bet the general intent was that Rogers would be the buyer upon Mr Wilson's passing (Pegula was nowhere on the radar yet), and the team/league would already be greased into Toronto a bit (Rogers expected much more hoopla and excitement with the games).
I think I agree with much of what you are saying, but I think it overemphasizes a "treading water" aspect to the Wilson mentality. Wilson was an old man. I've worked with many old men in my life, and I can tell you one thing - I am CERTAIN Wilson felt that he could adopt the business plan you describe while STILL being competitive. In many ways, the modern game - and CBA issues - passed him by, and certainly age influenced that.
I think Wilson began relying too much on his front office. I'm sure he asked Brandon can we competitive spending X and Brandon said sure and laid out a plan that Wilson was ill-equipped to really second guess. Following the team's failures each year, Wilson, at his age, likely was far too willing to accept the excuses from the front office, and was talked into assigning the majority of the blame to a variety of things like the QB issue and coaching. He didn't have the energy to really do the work to revamp the front office completely. This gradually even got worse as he got older. Certainly, they were trying to make certain moves over the years - they drafted at least 3 QB busts and made a move for Bledsoe at the end of his career. They hired advisers, and generally spent the cap money. They just didn't have the right front office in place to be what the team needed in Wilson's later years.
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55 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said:
Ultimately those two guys don't win you a Super Bowl. Watson would.
I recall that most of this board last year was big on Deshaun Watson. When our pick came up at 10 and he was there this board lit up. Then we traded out...................
I'll add that Watson also has the guy I think may be the best receiver in the league - Hopkins. He is certainly right there with Brown and Beckham. That guy is incredible.
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Let me put it this way - you watch the tape and generally one doesn't come away with a feeling that Watkins is an elite receiver. He's in that "good" range, but too inconsistent. He also tends to disappear on the field at times, and has durability questions. Nagging injuries tend to take away his game more than others. Some people are simply able to play "hurt" better than others (e.g., they play through stiffness, muscle soreness, etc., better), and I don't see him as one of them.
That said, he is still young and fast (when healthy) so he could certainly turn around his career in the right situation. Receivers often take several years to get going in the NFL. But, in my humble opinion, the Chiefs are paying too much for the speculative side of this deal. Kudos to Watkins and his agent for getting it done.
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Absolutely hate to hear this news after what Jim has been through. May he overcome this quickly.
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22 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
His plan was not to get killed. This couldn't be more obvious based on his actions and his plan.
We can agree to disagree. My opinion is when you go to shoot up a school in at least the back of your mind you know you will be caught or kill yourself. Or you are simply crazy. Whatever the scenario, I don't think in this case the fear of armed gunman at the campus would have changed his mindset, given how troubled he was and given how he was fantasizing about getting into shootouts with folks.
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3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
Except Cruz wasn't suicidal....he high tailed it out of there before the guys with guns showed up.
That's just because he "chickened" out. When you start a rampage like that, the general assumption is your life is over. You don't start shooting up a school with the expectation you will survive.
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22 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
The effects of bullying are very real. I have a friend who told me he was the definition of a bully in high school and would be the first one shot in a school shooting. Now, he's a great dad and husband but who knows if someone had access to a gun back then.
Disagree. We need more guns.
I don't think it's so black and white. Speaking from a psychological point of view, a guy with a suicide vendetta like this punk Cruz would only welcome the chance to go out shooting and take on an armed school. In simple terms, it would lessen the feeling of guilt of shooting the innocents - which is still there, even though his impulsive actions would make it seem like there is no feeling - and make it feel more like an impersonal Call of Duty scenario.
This is just my opinion, but whether the greater armament of the school would end his ambush sooner would seem to depend on the circumstances and the skill of those armed at the school. Will all teachers be equivalent in their application of firearms training? Doubtful. Should proven firearms expertise now be a requirement of all or most of our teachers? Will these vengeful students turn to sniping playgrounds from a distance instead, and render such "defenses" ineffective? I assume that you will sometimes end up with prolonged shootouts, more bullets being fired and exchanged, and more innocents caught in said crossfire. I do question why we are at a point where we are having so much trouble in the US with shootings at schools, starting primarily in the '90s, and that should be a focus of any reform. Unless we address the mental illness growing in this country we will continue to have more shootings and there will continue to be growing cry for guns to be focus of any change.
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Frankly, the Patriots had so few penalties called on them it's not a big deal. I saw several holds by Patriots players over the course of the game that weren't called on both sides of the ball. There were also a few times that interference could have be called on the Patriots defenders but they escaped without a call. It's clear the refs were going with a "let the boys play" philosophy last night and they were generally only calling obvious penalties.
As for whether the Ertz final TD was a completion or not, they ended up calling him a runner - he had clearly already taken at least two strides before leaping into the endzone. Therefore, correctly, he was ruled a runner. In the Pittsburgh game, the receiver just leaned back after catching the ball and they ruled that he failed to have completed the catch because he did not make a "football move":
Article 3 Completed or Intercepted Pass. A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) if a player, who is inbounds:
(a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
(b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
(c) maintains control of the ball long enough, after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, to enable him to perform any act common to the game (i.e., maintaining control long enough to pitch it, pass it, advance with it, or avoid or ward off an opponent, etc.).
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On 1/12/2018 at 4:00 PM, corta765 said:
This argument really pisses me off. The year they plugged Cassel in the Pats had just went 18-1 with the exact same lineup coming back. It wasn't like this was some average division winner with some talent, they were one David Tyree insane catch from being the best team period the previous year and many have wondered what that team would've been had Brady been healthy in 08. Other then that they've plugged Jimmy G for a whopping game and half and Jacoby Brisset for two and half games. Who else exactly have they "plugged in"?Every great offense ever has been a product of great QB and with a scheme that their talent maximizes. Dan Fouts Air Corryell, Joe Montana West Coast, Jim Kelly K Gun etc... There is a reason why the offenses are hard to replicate at those levels yet are copied soo much. Brady has done an excellent job working a system that maximizes his slot WR and TE in the middle to create space while having a deep threat on the outside to break the defense.
I would rather Buffalo fans who can't stand the Patriots/Brady to any degree just say so and be done because the bias shows so dam badly and wrecks good conversations like this comparing two great QBs.
Ok, then tell me what parameters we are allowed to consider in trying to make this hypothetical comparison between two great QBs? How many other offenses have had that kind of success plugging in a journeyman QB like Cassel? And we know that Cassel has NOT been able to flourish in any other offense. Did I say that makes Brady bad?
That said, what "pisses me off" is anyone disputing the genius of the BB offensive scheme. It is the most successful scheme in history at this point. No other offense in history has had this kind of sustained success. Brady is an enormous part of it, but I think we have seen enough evidence to know that a QB like Brees could also run it. He has the accuracy and the quick decision-making to succeed in that offense. Would he run the offense as well as Brady? Maybe not, but he could probably tally the same number of rings.
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The Patriots offensive game plan is more important than the QBs in my opinion. The Patriots have plugged guys like Cassel into that offense and they were successful. So, I have no doubt that Brees could have been successful in it as well. What makes that offense so unique is that it requires a certain type of receiver to be successful. The Patriots organization excels at recognizing otherwise average talent that will be successful in that offense.
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Bear in mind that the individual AMT was reinserted into the final bill (the Senate and House disagreed initially on whether the individual AMT would survive). If you are subject to the AMT, as most high-income earners are, you will not be able to take SALT deductions anyway unless you could perhaps claim it as a business expense (see more about that below). So, it won't be functionally much different than before, although the AMT rates have gone up slightly. The inability to deduct SALT is much more of a hit to those in the middle class who didn't meet the AMT threshold.
Moreover, the highest income earners don't really care because they are getting big tax breaks via (1) 2.6% off of the highest marginal rate - 39.6% down to 37%; (2) higher threshold for inheritance tax; (3) benefits to offshore tax shelters and repatriation rates; and (4) deduction for pass-through income such as brand revenue, rental income, etc. They are also usually still able to deduct quite a bit of SALT off of their rental properties and other business income, as they may qualify as "operating expenses" as far as that's concerned. Thus, overall, I highly doubt that the high-income earning NFL players will lose much playing in NY, although it would still make sense for them to establish residency in a state with no inheritance tax at some point like Trump in Florida. The NY state inheritance taxes are terrible!
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6 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:
The Taylor pick didn't change anything. It would have been 23 - 10 is the only difference there would have been. Dennison was calling an awesome game early on. The WR's on this team are garbage. Forget getting open, which they are mediocre at doing, they can't catch the damn ball when they do get open. Every one lauds Brady but people forget the Pats only gave up 16ppg last year and they haven't given up more than 17 points in 2 months. We either need Taylor to learn a little bit of Peterman's just letting it rip or we need Peterman to stop throwing it so quickly EVERY time. Teams key in on Peterman starring down the throw and getting it out at the same time every throw. Definately some really good things about getting it out. Again though, our WR's suck.
Yes, I have not been too impressed with Dennison so far at finding ways to maximize our limited talent, but there is no doubt that we are lacking in talent at WR and on the OL. Our pass blocking has been very poor and inconsistent this year. Pass blocking linemen are at a premium in this pass-happy league. It's more glaring than ever - teams winning games protect their QB.
No matter what you think - Beane got exactly who he wanted
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Dolphins would have likely taken a QB, but we will always wonder....(unless the Dolphins GM discloses it).