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4th&long

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  1. 1 hour ago, Wacka said:

    Why nit have PSA blood tests done quarterly or more  kore often. It is a simple blood test. I have blood test monthly, next is in 3 weeks. Biden can afford it with all the $ he got through Hunter unless Hunter sniffed it all up. I they are positive and then negative ad varying, they can be looked into and determined to be false positives. He has had a history of cancer. He had skin cancer.  It could nave slowly metasticised to his prostate and bone. He should have had a bevy of tests done to be sure it didn't spread.

    It was explained why it is not recommended for men over 70 multiple times on here. 

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  2. 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

    I think I already who you are off the message board.  Probably a decent enough guy, good father and husband  trying to do the best he can for his family. Caught a couple unlucky breaks, have some stress in your life so instead of kicking dogs, you insult people on message boards while simultaneously claiming to not give a **** about politics.  Off the board, you disagree with people but certainly don't tell people they are trash because of who they voted for.  In political discussions, you likely get emotional but not overly so.  Most people figure out the downside to lobbing juvenile insults when they leave the teen years behind, and when they don't, they end up lonely and alone.  

     

    As for growth, it's not about being on here with me or anyone else.  My comment was about your version of you and who you might aspire to become.  I have my own issues I'm working though, trying to get a little bit better as I go along.  Sometimes I'm successful, sometimes I have to power through.  

     

    I'm not here to admit anything about Trump, it's not my responsibility to do so.  Thinking back, the non-exhaustive list of issues I've had with Trump, and shared on this board:

     

    • Didn't like the commentary about POWs, thought it was shallow and a silly thing to say.  I didn't like that comment directed at John McCain the POW, but felt McCain as a politician was completely in play;
    • Didn't like the commentary on Obama wiretapping the Trump campaign--said he should never suggest that of a political rival and that one would have to have proof of wrongdoing.  I thought that was bad for the country--but Trump was telling the truth.  Obama/Biden was doing what he was saying.  Bad for the country, of course that they did that. 
    • Didn't like the idea of the 1/6 speech.  I had no inclination the 1/6 activities were forthcoming, I simply thought the race was over and he would be better suited to critiquing Biden/Harris while in political exile--given the obvious propensity for Bided to screw things up.
    • I didn't like Trump's entire 'Stop the Steal' campaign--it was time to move on, regroup and start anew.  A big however--though, was it was perfectly understandable and a natural extension of the dem run Russia narrative.  Both were bad for the citizens, but absent the phony Russia narrative, Stop the Steal never happens.  In short--it's the way politics work.
    • I didn't like the depth and breadth of the pardons he issued to 1/6 individuals.  I've explained that .
    • I think accepting the jet from Qatar is a mistake.
    • I was not a fan of the chaotic approach to hiring/firing in his first term.  Just not my style. 
    • I think DJT says some silly things, focuses on some silly things, and I'm not always a fan of his posts. 
    • He lies, makes things up and says stupid things from time to time.  I don't think that makes him any different than any other person to hold office.

    There's more, but I believe I've commented on just about all these issues along the way, and more.  Maybe you're too busy not caring to notice, but feel free to adjust your narrative accordingly, or don't.  I'm good with it either way. 

     

    Oh--don't like the Canada as 51st state (and not just because I'd have to listen to @Niagara Bill talking about his time at University or his annual holiday) comments.  Dumb. And tariffs---well, that remains to be seen how that all works out. 

    I don't even talk about politics off of here. If you met me somewhere, a bills game say, and you brought up politics I wouldn't comment and change the conversation ASAP.  I laugh at Maga that decorate there lawn in Trump stuff to the point I take a picture and send it to my brother who is Maga. I would never harm the decorations or trump flags. Why you think I'm emotional over politics off here or even on here? All you have to beat someone over the head with on here is words and I love to beat Maga over the head. It's a message board. 

     

    If the conversation changes to more reasonable where you can have some sort of a honest discussion I'll change. My first experience on this board and another was to get beat over the head so I returned in kind. 

     

    I do appreciate your views you posted on trump. You might have commented on some things but not all threads interest me so I might have missed them. 

  3. 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

    When a person makes a prediction on the outcome of an election, it’s fair to reevaluate performance after the fact.  When the same poster makes a new, updated prediction using inflammatory language and insults directed at another person, it’s appropriate to discuss further. 

     

     

    There’s no shame in you being wrong, spectacularly so in some cases.   All the bravado and braggadocios behavior notwithstanding, politics moves some people to the extreme. The problem comes when declarations are made, prognostications offered, and insults directed and your argument implodes.  
     

    That’s a time for reflection and growth,  to reconsider all you were certain of and try to come out the other side a more reasoned individual.  From you, it’s “white trash” an airplane and “curb stomp”. 
     

     

    Grow? on here with you? Why? Don't presume you know how I am of the message board. No reason to be serious with a bunch of fools who thinks everything trump does is perfect. When you admit Trump is an idiot and makes mistakes I'll consider trying to have a serious conversation with all you oncologist and experts in every field. 

  4. 12 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

    I spent the last couple days punching down at a dopey poster who made something up, but backed down like a dime store Karen when I asked him to document his claims.  I'm hopeful we can avoid all that silliness here and will clarify what I was saying previously: 

     

    It would go like this:

    • The democrat party and Joe Biden lied to you about his cognitive state, and the media was complicit in the cover up;
    • Now, the democrat party and Joe Biden withheld information on his bout with prostate cancer, and very well may have hidden that from voters when Joe was running last year. 

    The advantage would be for the benefit of the GOP, continuing to hammer on the point that the dems are perpetually dishonest to their voting bloc and make them look easily played and quite foolish.  That advantage might be significant or insignificant at the mid-terms, and significant or insignificant at the next presidential election.  

     

    In the end, it's the nature of politics.  We agree on that, yes? 

     

    That was my point.  That is all.  

     

    You're looking for the advantage? Classy, trying to find an advantage in someone's cancer. That is what I would expect from you and Maga. Just white trash. When you get some facts post them, I'm all for it. 

     

    If Donny two dolls strong arms another plane out of Qatar and keeps ***** up the country it ain't going to matter what the dems do, the right is going to get curb stomped. 

  5. 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

    But pretending a fantasy is reality isn’t the answer here, and it never is.  This is the world of politics, where every advantage is exploited, and the people who play in that space move in and out of hypocritical behavior without a thought about it.  Biden the person has every right to maintaining his secrecy, Biden the former prez and face of the modern Dem party does not. 
     

    The reason it’s a major issue is because it will be made a major issue.  Individually, no one cares your opinion or mine for that matter. 
     

    However, as a political cudgel it holds great promise to sway voters whose minds are not made up next time around.  An effective political campaign uses the tools in the tool belt and lays out the danger of trusting the party with an increasingly  long laundry list of hiding/manipulating/defrauding/weaponizing the system.  Add to that the narrative of waste, fraud and abuse  that goes against the best interests of taxpayers, and the portrayal of dems partnering with gang members and it’s a winning formula.

     

    In the end, it doesn’t really matter whether Biden knew or didn’t, the goal is to flush out the truth if possible, but hammer the credibility and link it to the Hur tapes. 
     

    The Dems will have their own version, of course, so it really boils down to sentiment at the time the race plays out.  

    Every abvantage exploited? You think there is some advantage to announcing he has cancer now? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. 

     

    I could see with the mental fitness stuff. If they found it earlier it wouldn't be aggressive or gone to his bones. It would have been in the early stages of the cancer and treatable. 

     

    But hey I'm not here to ruin maga's fun of posting lies bull sh it and hate. I'm just here to bash Maga over the head. 

  6. 16 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    I am an MD but not a urologist.  I've educated myself on it recently when my psa came back high.  MRI is the follow up test.  Then a bx if mai is positive.  This is the up to date protocol  And screening (all psa tests are screening in patients without known cancer) is not recommended in men over 70 by any of the organizations that make recs.  Because the very real risk of overtreatin g and especially over biopsying.  same reason for the high threshold for psa positivity...

     

    Re catching it early, obviously that gives a better prognosis but at 82 with this extremely aggressive grade (not stage- there are 4 stages, the forth being distant metastasis), my  feeling is his prognosis is poor.  I read 5 year survival is about 40% (mine is over 99% to0 show you the difference in grade and gleason scores)  There are 9 grades based on cellular microscopic exam of biopsy tissue by a pathologist.

    Not to knock you but this is all simple stuff found on Google. I found it and read about it in 5 minutes yesterday. This tells me that these Maga don't want to know, they want to make up and believe a lie and their condolences or concerns for the ex pres are bull sh it. 

  7. 5 hours ago, JDHillFan said:

    Biden and his supporters wanted us to believe he was good for another four years. People that think like you, actually carried him to victory in the primaries. Do you believe it’s the proper thing for the president of the United States to not be tested for cancer because of his age? Seems like an exception should be made for this particular job. 

    I think it is proper for anybody, President to handle their health how they choose and in private. That is why we have a second and third in line for the oval office right now. 

     

    Your over 60 I'm guessing, I'm sure you know some old timers that don't go to the doctor because they don't want to know. My father was like that, never went to the doctor. He got taken out of work at 60 on a stretcher. Health was so bad he never worked again and died at 66. My uncle said it was an old Italian thing. If he didn't go to the doctor nothing was wrong with him. Not the way I am and I'm sure Biden is not that way but he might not wanted to have the test and I don't blame him. 

     

    People should deal with their health how they want to. 

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  8. 21 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    there is EVERY chance.  Read the most respected guidelines.  there's are similar.  from US preventative task force

    Men aged 55 to 69 yearsFor men aged 55 to 69 years, the decision to undergo periodic prostate-specific antigen (PSA)-based screening for prostate cancer should be an individual one. Before deciding whether to be screened, men should have an opportunity to discuss the potential benefits and harms of screening with their clinician and to incorporate their values and preferences in the decision. Screening offers a small potential benefit of reducing the chance of death from prostate cancer in some men. However, many men will experience potential harms of screening, including false-positive results that require additional testing and possible prostate biopsy; overdiagnosis and overtreatment; and treatment complications, such as incontinence and erectile dysfunction. In determining whether this service is appropriate in individual cases, patients and clinicians should consider the balance of benefits and harms on the basis of family history, race/ethnicity, comorbid medical conditions, patient values about the benefits and harms of screening and treatment-specific outcomes, and other health needs. Clinicians should not screen men who do not express a preference for screening.C

    Men 70 years and olderThe USPSTF recommends against PSA-based screening for prostate cancer in men 70 years and older.D

    Don't fight with these Maga white trash they are not worth it. They would rather make up a lie and believe it lit their hero trump. 

     

    These idiots can't figure out that if he was tested and diagnosed years ago it would not be aggressive and spread to the bone. 

    And if anyone in this country is going to listen to CDC recommendations I'm sure it would be a man who has served for 50 years as a lib. No shock. 

  9. 51 minutes ago, B-Man said:

     

     

    You know, Joe is worth millions, he could have paid for his own physical.

     

    I'm willing to bet that that never even occurred to them.

     

     

     

     

    No.

     

     From personal experience, even when you do not have symptoms, your PSA is still elevated.

     

    Thus ANY doctor would know of the presence of cancer.

     

     

    Psa can be elevated from protein or physical activity in men over 70 that is why it is not tested for in them. Do some research. 

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