4th&long
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The first time this guy gets off the bench last year, in a playoff game, he picks off a pass. Huge play. And people want to give up on him? How about we get some good coaching and coach him up?
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10 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
One of the first album purchases I ever made, sadly not long after the plane crash. @muppy saw them at Rich Stadium, as did a good friend of mine. I was a late to the table so I missed it.
Good for you for doing what you can. If I think long and hard enough on meat consumption, there are days when I think I could go vegetarian…then I eat some good wings. Or a BLT. Or whatever.
So, on your issue with electric vehicles, assume you’re correct and the policy issue is indeed a scam. Extrapolate a bit—-and I see @All_Pro_Bills has done a much better job than I can highlighting his thoughts above—-and consider other policy initiatives and you begin to understand that how you get to be declared a climate heretic when you question the narrative.
Welcome to the club.
I’m the same way with wings or meat lovers pizza. But I am trying to get away from meat more because I’m worried about what they are putting in it. Whatever they are putting in it to make them grow is making me grow! I gained weight installing flooring and going to the gym. It can’t be all age can it?🥴
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2 hours ago, njbuff said:
Oh the irony.
I get it. It goes both ways and I have the same thoughts when people do that with trump. Just lazy arguments is what bothers me. And this thread is the epitome of that!
1 hour ago, Irv said:Do your homework before you shoot your pie hole off again. Mic drop.
Yup, still a moron.
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You hypocrites don’t care about illegal immigrants.
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On 3/18/2024 at 4:41 AM, Tommy Callahan said:
No worries. Trump is not getting elected. Not a chance! Going to be tough to run when he is in prison lol.
and I laugh at one side calling the other violent. Both sides love it. You would kill eachother if you could get away with it!
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You are a dumb ass. I blame you and your *****en stupidity. You are lazy, your arguments are first of all lazy and second of all uneducated and stupid.
When your first and only thing you are capable of is to blame the President for everything that is happening under the sun is lazy and stupid arguments. That is why your hero has no chance to get the White House back and I will laugh scornfully at you. Because yes you are a huge part of the problem. Your *****en stupidity.
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4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
For me, the bigger issue of the climate change debate is the popular solution to the problem. The idea of replacing oil and gas, hydrocarbon energy sources with clean and renewable energy sources such as wind and solar electricity generation. I think that solutions is completely incapable of supporting human civilization at its current size and scale.
The idea were going to replace all the cheap and efficient energy produced by hydrocarbons with wind and solar is a fantasy. I'd love to see a proof of concept community of about 100,000 people living a life completely devoid of oil and gas and exclusively run on renewables. My expectation is such a demonstration would be a complete flop and a wake up call to get serious. Along with exposing the idea as folly to most people.
I think the actual agenda of the elites running climate policy is they've determined there are just too many people on the planet and "they" need to get rid of maybe 50 to 75 percent of them and it don't matter to them if they get rid of Democrats, Republicans, or Independents.
I’m not sure that it’s cheap. I don’t see “completely replacing “ anything. But supplementing? Sure why not? Why not try to do what we can? Are we going to just stop advancing tech? The next thing I would like to do is get a solar panel on my house and tell the electric company to go ***** themselves. But I’m not sure solar is there yet either?
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12 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
There is that, of course.
We hold our "Climate Change Conspiracy Book Club" the 3rd Sunday of every month at the Starbucks on Delaware Ave. All are welcome.Lol now that is funny!
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1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
One of the first album purchases I ever made, sadly not long after the plane crash. @muppy saw them at Rich Stadium, as did a good friend of mine. I was a late to the table so I missed it.
Good for you for doing what you can. If I think long and hard enough on meat consumption, there are days when I think I could go vegetarian…then I eat some good wings. Or a BLT. Or whatever.
So, on your issue with electric vehicles, assume you’re correct and the policy issue is indeed a scam. Extrapolate a bit—-and I see @All_Pro_Bills has done a much better job than I can highlighting his thoughts above—-and consider other policy initiatives and you begin to understand that how you get to be declared a climate heretic when you question the narrative.
Welcome to the club.
At this point are they not still using fossil fuels to make electricity? 90 minutes to charge your car when you do find a charger that fits the car you own. The batteries that they are destroying the earth to make that weigh a ton and destroy your tires. That and I can’t imagine hitting the pedal to hear the roar of the engine? I don’t know it all, half that could be wrong, it’s not like I sit around studying it. I’m sure one day electric cars might be good but I’ll be long gone I’m sure.
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26 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Thank you.
The crib notes of my post was yes we have a heat pump, recycle, wife is a vegan, I’m getting there. Do whatever else we reasonably can. I will not buy an electric car they are a scam. I’m still mad Dodge stopped making the challenger. I wanted to kill myself in the 800 horsepower hell cat one day.
i do like you screen name, love that band.
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7 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Don't be disingenuous, 4th, you weren't just "trying to figure out" where I was coming from. You were rude, ill-mannered and quite presumptuous.
It happens sometimes, so no hard feelings, but I hope I've clarified why I replied the way I did.
More--I'm not particularly interested in drilling down to nitty gritty of climate science. Here's why:
- Historically speaking, science evolves and changes. New discoveries are made, technology offers solutions, and that which we thought before is disproven. When I hear that everything we ever needed to know we now know, I wonder about the agenda of those who declare such things. There is a religious fervor on one side of the aisle, and that makes me inherently distrustful;
- It seems to me--and this is an area CKA took particular exception a while back--agenda driven individuals in positions of power are using the fear of climate catastrophe to leverage wealth redistribution schemes.
- It seems to me that while preaching that the end is nigh, and then updating as necessary to end is nigh +1..+2..etc, policy makers often reveal an unbelievable amount of climate hypocrisy. Whether it's the Clinton's, Obamas or Bush's traveling the world, burning through fossil fuels, paying to pollute, or the annual trip to Davos, it seems on a personal level they are wholly unconcerned about climate change. As I view these people as being the most in-the-know on the planet, and assuming they don't want their grandchildren to inherit the earth they describe, it makes me wonder what the real story might be;
- It seems to me that there is an awful lot of money in saving the planet, and more than a few people getting extraordinarily wealthy in the process.
- All that said, I recognize the role that govt plays in social engineering, and I recognize that many positive outcomes can stem from a partnership between government and private industry. I simply do not trust blindly, and generally try to follow the money.
Here's one last thought on Kay's posts. In following her thoughts on some other issues (socialism, abortion, and taxation) I find there is precious little common ground. That's ok, of course, but it causes me to be distrustful generally about her perspective here. That's not to say she's wrong, she may be dead nuts spot on. if, down the road, I come to see it that way, I'm happy to share my gratitude.
In the end though, here's my underlying question for you. In light of Kay's posts--- What are you doing, as a citizen of the planet, to change, impact, alter the path the world is on to the apocalypse? Have you gone vegan? Sworn off shish kabobs, or gone with grasshopper/grasshopper/bell pepper/cricket/onion? Converted to a heat pump? Sold your gas-powered vehicle? Tithed to the gods of green energy (15%, minimum I would expect)? Moved to a green energy commune?
If you're like most people, you've probably not done much at all---but if you did, good for you for living your beliefs. Sincerely, I mean that. I live mine as best I can. I'm mindful of waste, mindful of the environment, invest in certain ESG funds that interest me, and push on. I do acknowledge throwing styrofoam in the regular trash the other day--the recyclable can was chock full with the remnants of Amazon/UPS boxes.
I had a long post I deleted. Not worth it. I don’t blame you for questioning stuff. If you Don’t to believe in global warming based on party lines I can’t change your mind. (Of course I’m assuming you’re Republican? I could be wrong.)
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46 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:
As for myself, I love the Handel organ concertos.
I use swipe on my phone to post. How words get spelled? You will see a lot of my posts are edited. But I have always loved the contribution the spell checkers provide. Thanks for your service.
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1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said:
Thanks. I didn't know I needed gun rights until I needed gun rights. The criminals by default have gun rights because they don't care what the laws say. I think it should be up to us to decide if we do or don't want to exercise our 2nd amendment rights, not the government.
I just wish there something we could do about school shootings but that is above my pay grade. I certainly don’t have the answers. Frankly I don’t think there is an answer. I think one day God will sort it all out.
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32 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:
I've been in that situation and I guess you won't understand until you are. Who is more manly? The guy who can actually protect his family or the guy that dies trying to show everyone how tough he is?
I’m not here to argue with you about gun rights and I’m certainly not here to try and take your rights away. I have my opinions but they are not worth much. You do you.
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22 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:
I've been in that situation and I guess you won't understand until you are. Who is more manly? The guy who can actually protect his family or the guy that dies trying to show everyone how tough he is?
I’m glad it worked out well for you.
10 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:Every once in a while you do come up with some goods stuff.
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I seen OJ on a golf course once, I asked him how his slice was?
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3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:
Hi Mr Candy Ass here (apparently). It's not about needing a gun to settle a matter. It's that the other guy already has one. Are you going to challenge a bad guy with an illegal fully automatic weapon to fisticuffs? I think you understand how badly that would end for you
The drama. I’m pretty sure I’ll never be in that situation. I’ve made it this far. And if I do and die so be it. At least I had the courage to die for what I believe in. But you do you.
Oh and by the way, how did that work out for that safety from Washington Sean Taylor?
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Good! Drop dead!
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1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Settle down 4th&Smitten.
I’ve interacted with Comrade Kay on this issue in the past. I’ve acknowledged her contributions, learned a thing or two, and she’s proven more than capable of responding on her own behalf without some hormonal patriarchal teenager coming to her defense.
Kay has shared her thoughts on my thoughts, and I’d characterize her thoughts (in my words) that I’m wrong, a climate denier, small-minded, unreasonable, uneducated and probably a few more.Respect her enough to respect her ability to handle things for herself. It’s not 1952, she’s got a LinkedIn page for heavens sake!
As for your question, Kay’s response, in part she suggested Orlando T launched an ad hominem attack. This, after CKA shares her thoughts on the general dunderheadedness* of those who disagree with her.
That got me thinking and I shared what I chose to share.
*Dunderhead, I think Kay might characterize me as a dunderhead, too.
Btw, the item I broke in that highly educated but nuts lady’s house cost me around $2.50. Adjusted for inflation on this admin’s watch, I’m thinking it would cost me a ten spot or more. Thanks a lot shrinkflation.
I’m fully aware she can Handel herself. It’s obvious. I’m just trying to figure out where you are coming from with that response?
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Look, to be clear I am against abortion. But if these idiots think they will stop with this?
I hate guns personally, I think you are a candy ass if you need a gun to settle a matter. But I would never try to take someone’s gun rights away. I like my freedom of speech and wouldn’t want that taken away so I don’t feel it’s right to take a right away from someone else.
i know abortion is not a right and I’m not here arguing for it so don’t come at me with your trash. I’m just saying if you think the govt will stop there you are dumber than I thought!
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23 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Watching this squabble from the outside looking in, I’d humbly offer that a person can be highly educated and still be nuts. Back in my younger days, I visited the home of a lady with a PhD in somein’somein…may have been Education. I can’t recall exactly what she was wearing, maybe purple clam diggers, a blue tube top and yellow flannel shirt tied at the navel. Long, stringy gray hair, a bit unkempt, and a hoarder on a major scale. Food supplies/mason jars/prepper supplies everywhere, stacked two or three feet high, maybe an 18” path meandering through the home. I actually knocked something over, she asked me to pay for the broken jar and I did. I feared the alternative was an aerosol spray to the face, poor Leh-n waking up later chained to a bed on a Sealy perfect sleeper, while she removed my toes with a potato peeler. She had at least 15 that I saw in my brief time in her home.
Then, not long ago during COVID, a poster here-decent enough guy who is apparently quite highly educated opined that non-vaxxers should be placed on an island, and if I recall correctly, their children taken away by the State. Bookended between those experiences spanning 40 years are a number of other experiences and stories that convince me that the two are not mutually exclusive.
And this has to do with what exactly? Funny story but you can’t argue with her so you try to say she is crazy? In your feeble little brain you think this discredits her in any way? This just shows how ignorant you are.
Why don’t you present a counter argument based on fact? Oh that’s right, you can’t. Thanks for telling us how little you know. Go sit down now:
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33 minutes ago, ComradeKayAdams said:
I’ll get to your ad hominem attacks in a second. But first:
1. You think satellite data is necessary to understand historical ice sheet size?? El. Oh. El.
As I’ve repeatedly explained, we have WAY more than 30 years of climate science evidence for the troposphere and for the oceans. Extrapolation is necessary for understanding the historical stratosphere, but even for all the upper atmospheric layers we can make strong educated guesses based on other indirect evidence like from ice sheet gas bubbles (particularly from migratory ozone concentrations). You hate extrapolation probably because you have ZERO understanding of molecular physics and statistical thermodynamics (plus plasma physics, if analyses include the layers sandwiching the stratosphere from above).
And again…if you hate extrapolation so much, then at least offer your own explanation for WHY THE STRATOSPHERE IS COOLING WHILE THE TROPOSPHERE IS WARMING. Tell us why we should believe your garbage science instead of consensus science.
And again…three decades’ worth of data points are sufficient to quantitatively define a climate. This is a mathematical/statistical/graphical argument and not a completely arbitrary definitional one.
One thing you got right here: deforestation practices do threaten rainforests way more than climate change (even though I never argued otherwise…but whatevs).
2. Agreed! Too many Luddites on the political left oppose nuclear fission power plants.
3. What kind of nonsensical argument is this?! Yes, of course civilization will adapt to a dystopian planetary environment because we will technically have no other choice. But do you properly understand how much money and human suffering it will cost along the way to adaptation?! Damages to global food supplies, coastal city alterations, natural disaster relief, increases in the spread of infectious diseases, vulnerable island nations, mass population exoduses from newly uninhabitable regions (such as large swaths of the Middle East)…we should try to minimize or avoid what we can of all this.
4. Okay…and perhaps these environmentalists were making reasonable predictions, depending on the specific assumptions of petroleum engineering tech advancements and geo-exploratory land/sea availabilities with which they were working?? That was my point. How is this relevant, anyway, to the topic of anthropogenic climate change from the perspective of professional climate SCIENTISTS??
5. My point here was that the U.S. government intervened and enacted meaningful change to the specific problem of North American acid rain. Yes, I’m fully aware of the general pollution problems with China and India. Acknowledging that reality doesn’t justify neglecting other problems over which we have some degree of control.
Now regarding your doubts of my education: If you have a BillFans.com account, it shouldn’t take you too long to find my LinkedIn and Instagram profiles. Go ahead and evaluate my STEM credentials if you’d like. I’m wearing a blue sleeveless pencil dress in my LinkedIn pro pic and an “earthy-colored” hippy-looking bell-sleeved skater dress in my Instagram pro pic (background: the Long Island Central Pine Barrens, my absolute favorite place in our beautiful state of New York!).
Regarding my nuttiness: Dude...bruh…I’m a Slavic-American girl from Western New York who has endured a 17-year playoff drought and now an ongoing 13-year one. You were expecting sanity??
Please try to argue with this again Tim so she can make you look like an idiot again!
Kay you are the only reason to come to this side of the message board.
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If things were left up to the states trump would not be in the ballot in about 12 states!
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You should join bills fans.com. They are an all Republican board. No dissenting view. Not one! I think it’sa group of trump worshippers like you who started their own message board. Perfect for you since I see you don’t like an opposing view. And I’m being serious, as fellow bills fans, we at least have that in common. I have never seen anything like it. Very boring if you ask me but I think you would love it!