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C'mon, work that run game...c'mon under center

wooo double shaq attack

The more things change ...the more they stay the same! WHY no under center for Allen? Why no run game? I'm starting to think that these pass-happy Ocs gotta go. The teeth of this Jets defense is their front line and secondary...why throw?

It usually takes a few years for a new regime to come in and build a top team and McD and Beane did just that. Drafting Josh Allen in the 2018 draft and hitting 13-3 in 2020 and 2022. The Buffalo Bills should have made it to the Super Bowl one of those two seasons and ran into the Kansas City Chiefs with home-field advantage. Buffalo had this same aspect back in the 90s and it was so prominent that the KC HC Marty Schottenheimer begged the NFL to have the AFC Championship game on a neutral field. In 1992 Buffalo did make the playoffs as a Wildcard and needed to go to Miami for the AFC Championship game. That was also the year of the OT WC win against the Oilers in OT. If you think about it the Buffalo Bills kept Dan Marino with the Miami Dolphins out of the SB, along with John Elway in those early 90's years. KC even had Joe Montana and he couldn't get them past Buffalo. Home field meant so much back then and it probably means the same now considering how difficult it is to beat the Cheifs at Arrowhead in the playoffs. The point here is it seemed that after four Super Bowl losses that fans were getting sick of seeing Buffalo even get to the SB. If fans want to jump the wagon, it's okay. Anyway, look back at the Denver Broncos and John Elway who went to three SBs in 86, 87, and 89 and lost all three. They were in the playoffs in 83-94 with Elway and didn't make it far. As great an arm as Elway had and as good an athlete he was... he didn't win an SB until Mike Shanahan built a power run game for Denver in 1997, 1998 with RB Terrell Davis. I think the current Buffalo Bills have the talent to get past KC and get to an SB. This new OC needs to keep Josh Allen under center and find a way to make that running game work...even as a WC.

If I'm the new Buffalo OC I look at past history and stats. Then attempt to get that Bills rush game going anyway, anyhow. Toss sweeps, end around, miss direction plays along with anything to wear that Jets front defense out. Limit the passing plays to high-percentage pass plays that help Josh's confidence going forward. With that Buffalo run game working it help keep the defense off the field and not gassed in the 4th quarter. Try to get Shakir in the slot to move the chains when needed like da Bease. Let Josh run if needed as it will kill those Jet's defenders. I really, really want to see Buffalo destroy this crappy Jets team.

There were troubling events with the Buffalo offense under Dorsey. Such as Shakir, Cook, and other receivers not getting enough passes their way and Gabe Davis getting more than he should. Josh under the center showed marked improvement in the offensive performance and yet didn't use that often enough for some unknown reason. The run game with Cook disappearing at times. It is my take that firing Ken Dorsey was the best move McD has made aside from allowing Leslie Frazier to step aside. I also think that this HC allows his OC to have full autonomy with the offense and he is a "hands-off" Head Coach. This was apparent with Brian Daboll and Dorsey hung himself with his own ineptitude. I think the Buffalo Bills destroy that NY Jets defense this Sunday and Bills fans will see that this was the right move.

I put a lot of the blame on Ken Dorsey and here is why. It was stated on MNF by the Mannings that they saw that INT coming before it happened and as others have stated that is a pass play that should be taken out of their playbook as it has happened a few times now. Bill Walsh used to make certain that with his pass plays the receiver was always between the defender and the ball. Not only that, he would review plays in which Montana would throw an INT and remove those plays if they happened more than once. Besides, according to Dan Orlavsky, Dorsey has failed to put his players in a position to have success. It would take a 10 out of 10 effort by players to make plays work and it shouldn't be that difficult. He stated that the Buffalo offense was broken schematically and easy to defend. Josh has gotten worse under Dorsey. Now, let's see how it goes with Brady.

It was NEEDED. McD has built a top team and when healthy the defense was top 5. If they fire McD he will have another HCing job in a heartbeat. The defense has been playing well considering all the injuries to the main players. The offense has been playing like crap until Josh Allen plays lights out at times. Dan Orlavasky of ESPN

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den/2023.htm CURRENT RANKING #3 IN YARDS ALLOWED BY ESPN https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/view/defense/table/passing/sort/netTotalYards/dir/desc In that KC game, it was noted that Mahomes was dealing with sickness and played anyway. Besides, the Chiefs have been bailed out by their defense quite a bit this season.

Guys, Ken Dorsey was a huge problem with the offense as it became too simplistic. Opponents knew what was coming and keyed on that. Do you guys really think the NY Giants or NE Patriots are THAT good on defense? HAD...TO...GO! Freaking Denver has the 32nd-ranked defense!! My thought, I wonder if Dorsey was gunning for McD's job as HC of the Bills. Either that or he was just plain stupid.

It's the very same playbook that Brian Daboll used to run, the same scheme. Yet, when the OC sees his QB throw INTs on particular plays over and over...take them out of the playbook. Ken Dorsey did not do that. it's that the offense has been predictable under Dorsey and far too dependent on the player execution to make the play work. It has also been far too simple that defenses can lay back and know what's coming as they sit on routes. However, Brian Daboll was a wizard in his play calls, passing concepts that would have defenses so confused. We need to see what this new OC can do. Hopefully much better.

My take is that it was Ken Dorsey who was the problem with the offense and Josh saw it. He voted for the guy for the job so was reluctant to say anything. The offense was far too predictable and in the scheme unless the players played perfectly it wouldn't work. Things should get better.

This offense has been far, far too predictable under Dorsey. Opposing teams know what is coming and unless the Buffalo offensive players play perfectly it's doomed to fail. The offense might be complex to a degree but its plays have been simple for teams to diagnose. Hopefully, this changes this week with a different OC.

About time too. Not putting James Cook back in after getting the ball ripped out in order to help him regain confidence was not the right thing to do. Ken Dorsey turned Josh Allen into Sam Darnold...If you consistently throw an interception on one particular pass play...take it out of the playbook.

Mistakes are killing this team. Josh Allen has turned into Sam Darnold...Ken Dorsey doesn't seem to be the answer on offense. All these losing teams playing Buffalo it's like their Super Bowl as they have watched the Bills in the playoffs the last few years and against all these teams the Bills no longer get overlooked. They study Buffalo hard and are overjoyed to beat them.

Did we fire EVERYONE yet?

The offense lost its Mojo in England!

Are we having fun yet? Or just heart attacks?

The Dolphins are all somewhere laughing

To think that Miami scored 70 on this team...

FIRE THE QB! 5-5 with a loss to another losing team, fire everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@HoofHearted awesome stuff, thank you for the conversations!

Kalir Shakir has 19 targets, 18 receptions a 94.7 catch percentage. With a success percentage of 84.2

How did Tom Brady get to so many Super Bowls? Just by moving the chains first down after first down and then punching it in the end zone. Down after down, game after game with arguably only one really great superstar WR in Randy Moss. Although they had some extraordinary other receivers in Dion Branch, Troy Brown, Gronk, and those mega-chain movers in Wes Welker along with Julian Edelman. Buffalo is using that very same scheme (Erhardt-Perkins) and when they had the Bease doing his Welker imitation they moved the chains every well. The Bills might have that mega-chain mover already in Dalton Kincade along with Shakir, Harty, or Sherfield but the WRs need to see the ball more. Can't get 10 yards in 3 tries? Sherfield has only seen 10 targets with 7 receptions 70%. Harty has seen 17 targets and 13 receptions 76.5% SHAKIR, 19 targets 18 receptions for a 94.7% YOWIE! Kincade had 45 targets, and 40 receptions for 88.9 %. These numbers are for the entire season so far! I look at those numbers and ask why isn't Shakir in the slot doing Beasley's old job in moving the chains down after down and game after game. You know, just like they did in 2021 with Diggs getting 164 targets and Bease getting 112. Dorsey, don't you even see what your players are doing?

Dislike saying it...Josh looking like he is regressing. I mean, how hard is it to move the ball 10 yards in 3 tries? The Buffalo offense goes invisible for 3 quarters...why? The team lacks discipline... and that's the HC. The thing is... great teams can run the same plays over and over and few can stop them. They know what's coming and still can't stop it. You know, kinda like Mahomes to Kelce.