Yes this forum is and has long been overflowing with right wing crazies who do not subscribe to facts or logic. I know all to well how tempting it is to respond to crazy with your own version of crazy. Unfortunately I've also learned that, while fun to play along, acting crazy yourself does not help much. (well .. nothing said on this forum matters much) This is the spot where I do have to credit Obama. He remains solid and moderate and seemingly unphased by the 200+ filibusters and lies about Kenya and mall of the other nutso things that the far right has done. And then moderate Republicans refuse to tell the crazy right to STFU. I'm not sure how Obama has remained so calm, but props to him.