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3 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:
Not sure why some are surprised. They had cap and cash to spend. They still aren't done.
I think it has to do with the fear and anxiety of not achieving success. Akin to the term Billsy, I'd say we've been conditioned to feel disappointed in this team for the last decade and a half for the majority of the time.
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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Hey, we very well may be incorrect. This was never some arrogant guarantee, just my gut feeling based on what McD and Beane have consistently said and based on how many new WR's I expected them to bring in. So far, they have brought in 3 and are very likely to bring in at least one prominent rookie.
And now, looking at the WR room, I would put Zay already 4th on the depth chart today behind Foster, Brown, and Cole. Not to mention Duke can still challenge to start or at least for relevant playing time too. Then you still have McKenzie.
Now add a rookie into the mix, and where does Zay fit so "easily"? Cole Beasley just took his slot job. That means Zay now has to complete to start as WR1 or WR2 or he will be a bench and rotational guy. Brown wasn't signed to sit behind everyone, so he is at least penciled into one of those 2 spots. Foster already passed Zay in most peoples eyes, and then you will have Duke and a rookie pushing those guys too.
Zay may end up on this roster, but its FAR from a lock. Slot is gone, Cole is the 100% for sure slot WR this year. He we have 4 WRs who will challenge for the top 2 WR spots already...Foster, Brown, Zay, Duke plus a 5th one likely to get into the mix from the draft. Not sure why anyone has great optimism that Zay will beat 3 or 4 other WR's to secure a starting spot.
He will likely be given the chance to, but he hasn't done well in pressure situations prior to this. And if he doesn't beat out those guys for a starting spot, I think he will be traded for something like a 5th round pick to get some value before spending a season on the bench diminishes all trade value.
I'm not very knowledgeable about Brown's or Beasley's run blocking abilities. Are any of the WR's better at blocking than Jones? From what I remember (which of course isn't the most reliable) Jones was able to set up some really good blocks during the year. If he is our best blocking WR that could be an important factor.
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10 minutes ago, whatdrought said:
An nice piece of optimism about the Bills.
Problem is, they will want to get paid soon.
I mean, I can't really blame them.
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1 minute ago, 416BillsFan said:
Jets always seem to have good centers, even when the rest of the team sucks.
To be fair, their investment in Manigold and Ferguson did get them pretty far in the playoffs with Mark Sanchez. Of course, they had Revis and other players but it seemed like that focus on their O-line was useful at one point.
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45 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:
They should give Lamar Jackson a chance to have a full year working with a playbook built for him.. rather than some jerry-rigged converted Flacco offense.
LJ went 6-2 as a rookie they have no reason not to see how he improves.
And Roman can probably do a good job creating a situation for LJ to improve.
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1 hour ago, Bills2ref said:
Yikes he really smoked Buffalo on those rankings. Can’t say I disagree with most of the offensive rankings though. I do think Josh Allen deserves more than a 3 at QB though. I think a 5 would have been fair.
Yeah the writer is clearly on the Jackson & Darnold >> Allen train as both of those teams are at 5's.
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29 minutes ago, prissythecat said:
If if he is good, why is the quarterback connoisseur Chicky shoppong him
Cause he has AJ and Peterman
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1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said:
TJ Graham wasn’t handed the opportunity of playing with a bloated corpse at #1 WR.
Which in itself is a huge determining factor. The talent the Bills have as a WR, who they bring in or don't bring in will determine if Zay is the best of the worst once again. (Of course Foster and McKenzie might have already surpassed him in ability)
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1 hour ago, BillsSB2020 said:
EJ was an outstanding young man during his time in Buffalo. While he's got back-up AT BEST ability, I wish him well.
Not sure if he'll even make the team let alone become the primary backup, but it's a good thing that he's getting a shot.
Yeah, EJ might be one of the nicest players we've had (and the Bills seem to mostly have high character guys for better or for worse). Here's hoping he can make it as their fake snap count specialist.
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On 1/30/2019 at 11:14 AM, Bill from NYC said:
I hope you did see the sarcasm.
? Of course! You consistently expressed your opinions on that strategy when the rest of us had the pleasure of reading your "10 things game recaps". That's not to take away from Virgil at all, he does a great job too.
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6 hours ago, H2o said:
A first year coach can't afford to tank these days. Look at Wilks in AZ. He just inherited a bad team overall and got the axe after 1 season.
There's truth in that, though I wonder if MIA will have lower expectations than AZ. AZ went 7-8-1 the previous year and spent money on Bradford (terrible in hindsight). While they may have had lower-end talent I don't know if they expected to perform as terribly as they did.
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24 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:
Me too! Who needs a quarterback when you can grab a top 10 defensive back?
Dick Jauron? Is that you?
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9 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
Gailey got to work with a declining (32/33 year old) Troy Aikman in his two seasons as Cowboys HC.
Then he got to work with a declining Dan Marino as the Dolphins OC.
Then the Chiefs QB disaster mentioned in the article (Damon Huard? Brody Croyle? Brady Quinn? No wonder Tyler Thigpen had a job)
Then the Bills: Edwards and Fitzy
Then the Jets: Fitzy and Geno
Can we bring him back to work with Josh Allen? I mean, seriously ... special consultant or something. I feel he deserves one shot with a seriously talented young QB ...
I thought with the Bills he worked only with Fitz...unless you're counting that one game that Trent was so bad that they cut him afterwards. I wonder between Peterman and Edwards who is the bigger training camp hero.
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21 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Upgrade over Daboll
He is? Cowboy fans seem ecstatic that he's gone.
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I only really started paying attention to football and lurking this board in 2004, the good old days of Ieatcrayonz trolling people, so my knowledge is limited.
I would say Anthony Hargrove, he had suspension issues but aside from that he seemed better as a DE than Kelsay or Denney both of whom played a lot more than him.
Certain players who were undrafted or seen as ore developmental would often need opportunities to showcase their abilities instead of the coaching staff initially recognizing their talent (although perhaps they needed time to develop) perhaps Jabari Greer is another possibility.
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We'll see if he makes it past training camp. At least Beane has been busy, I can't remember the last time the Bills have had four players (even if most are depth) re-signed this early.
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1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said:
Yeah. It's strange. The defensive failure was ironically Rex's undoing in Buffalo. If only we had Rex's offense and Schwartz's D!!!
For me, that was by far what was most frustrating about Rex as a coach. On some level I could at least justify Jauron and Chan in that they didn't seem to have much talent to work with. Rex took a great defense and made them the team's weakness.
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1 minute ago, Maine-iac said:
One of those two caught a fake kick .............. I think that might have helped people remember them as being better. I swear our defenses were awful for years. Hell even Schobel. We had LB sized DL players and midgets behind them (Coy Wire and London Fletcher ect.) We got run on week in and week out for 3 or 4 seasons.
Schobel managed to at least get pressure on QB's. He usually showed up for NE games so I probably remember him as better than he was. Denney caught a fake kick, Kelsay blocked a Dallas throw and caught it in the endzone for a touchdown.
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Jairus Byrd was a Probowl player
Dion Dawkins almost immediate started
Chris Kelsay seemed always good enough to start
Roald Darby same as Kelsey
Kiko Alonso I mean, he is starting....
Reggie Ragland -????
Aaron Williams All four of these guys needed some time or change of positioning to be successful and even then were decent to good
Zay Jones
Josh Reed
Roscoe Parrish
3 minutes ago, brianb386 said:Ragland would definitely be last as he did absolutely nothing for us and was traded for a 4th after being drafted in the second. I want to say Aaron Williams is #1 on that list but there is serious consideration for Byrd who had some good years for us before his less than awesome final year and departure.
Williams is interesting to me. For a while he seemed like a bust as CB and needed time to become good. I'm hoping Zay is similar to him.
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1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said:
Josh Reed: Meh
Chris Kelsay: hung around for a long time. Never a high impact guy, but decent career.
Roscoe Parrish: Great punt returner. Never a high impact offensive player. Decent career.
Jairus Byrd: Home run pick. Great player(with the Bills)
Aaron Williams: Was developing into a solid safety. Unfortunate ending.
Kiko Alonso: Very solid pick regardless of how you feel about him personally
Ronald Darby: Excellent pick
Reggie Ragland: Meh
Zay Jones: Looks like a poor draft choice right now, but still has a chance to improve and contribute.
Dion Dawkins: Looks like a solid pick.
I think Byrd is most interesting to me, as for his rookie contract he was by far the best, but then got injured and never seemed to recover. I'm curious if a 4 year great player is better than a 10 year okay player like Kelsay.
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9 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Yeah, I love how does features on ESPN About how to shut down Brady after the Pats averaged like 500 yards against us.
dude is poison. I’ll admit, I bought into his hype. But the guy never takes the blame and it’s always someone else’s fault. He is the type of person that will never learn from his mistakes. I would never want a guy like that on my staff as a head coach. He would completely undermine you.
Well said, I think what was most frustrating was that Rex managed to cause our defense to significantly regress despite being know for being good at defense.
PFF had an article on most improved players. The year after Bradham and Mario left Rex's scheme they both were selected by PFF as having significantly improved.
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Hey all,
I was thinking about the team and how much the draft is depended on. I thought about players in the 2nd round as many have been polarizing players and would be curious as to others' opinions of these players especially as some were great for a short amount of time, while others were consistently okay (some would argue better and some worse). You'll note that I am omitting players who I consider to be either busts (Hardy, Troup, etc) or home runs (Schobel, Woods, Glenn, etc).
How would you rank the following players in terms of how good of players they are/were?
Josh Reed
Chris Kelsay
Roscoe Parrish
Jairus Byrd
Aaron Williams
Kiko Alonso (I'm not sure how he compares from a talent perspective. If I rank him guided by emotion he would be last)
Roald Darby
Reggie Ragland
Zay Jones
Dion Dawkins
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8 minutes ago, Augie said:
Week 17 was awesome! All of it. Seeing Allen and Edmunds show so much promise and fill me with hope to fuel the long offseason.
This is a good answer, I think for me it was during this week specifically when the camera panned to Gase later in the game with him looking like he know he was going to get fired.
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50 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said:
The analysis is true if you substitute QB for coach. The point being that are lots and lots of decent head coaches. And a handful of consistent winning coaches, Payton, Tomlin, Andy Reid Bellicheck john harbaugh . The difference in win/loss impact among the Gases, Gaileys Marrones, Garrets Ryans and Bowles has demonstrably been negligible over time. This is why owners turn over coaches relatively quickly. Doug Pedersen seems to have shown a spark. Frank Reich is defying expectations. Maybe they are part of a new wave consistently winning coaches. If winning championships is the goal, then hanging on to a Marvin Lewis for fear of getting a Hue Jackson, doesn't seem to pan out. Lots and lots of mediocre guys available all the time.
Even of the consistently good coaches most seem to have seasons that are underwhelming. Being that the average coach would go 8-8 I wonder if even good coaches are being let go for not being great as opposed to being mediocre.
G Jon Feliciano (Raiders) to the Bills
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Wow, 3 solid to really good O-line players in free agency. Beane is making this look easy....or all our other GM's has made this look difficult.