Perry Turtle
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Has tyrod come from behind 4+ points to win yet? Just wondering
Has Tyrod won a game on a Monday that fell on an even number day? Just wondering.
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When we lose in Seattle on Monday and Tyrod loses three straight, there will be an excuse, right? It's different this time, because reasons!
There is little to no drop off. You're projecting. Fans hate Manuel because of where he was drafted. I wish Tyrod showed one ounce of EJ's want in the second half of that Jaguars game.
Here are some stats from those three Manual starts. 5 interceptions. Two pick sixes. One fumble returned for a touchdown. He gifted the Texans 7 points; the Bills lost by six. He gifted the Jags 14 points, the Bills lost by 3. The Texans loss cost the Bills a 10-6 record. The Jags loss cost the Bills a 9-7 record.
EJ cost the Bills 2 wins in his last 3 starts. That why I don't want him to start. He doesn't protect the ball. I don't care where he was drafted.
Are those "reasons" you understand?
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Such hyperbole crap. Why don't you actually look at his last three starts and come back to me with his yards, TDs, and INTs?
We're talking about the Texans, Jaguars and Bengals, right? Why don't you look at the game-killing turnovers and get back to us.
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This is all nonsense. We're 4-4. No reason to think we'd have a worse record with EJ or most team's backups playing. We beat a bunch of crap teams, and won games with opportunistic defense and a strong running game. YOU dont watch the games if you actually think Tyrod is going to magically develop into anything other than what he has shown.
It could be way worse, like 6 or 7 interceptions and a couple of pick sixes worse. Just reference EJs last three starts and tell us it couldn't be worse.
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I'm with you Dr. Would like to see him with the full compliment of weapons just one more time.
That was the sentiment before the Jaguar game last year; then the Jaguar game happened and people had seen enough.
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That is hiding him. They dont want him throwing the ball vice the occasional 9 route (which he is very good at by the way).
Ie hiding him
Right, and the Panthers are hiding Cam Newton, and the Chiefs are hiding Alex Smith, and the Seahawks are hiding Russell Wilson.
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Ok hide him. That is what you are doing.
They're not hiding him. He was a key factor in their 4 game winning streak. He makes plays in the read/option game. Plays that result in wins.
He's not a pocket passer. The coaching staff stupidly put him in that position the last two weeks, and he fared poorly.
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I never said they were mediocre but they were not great.
Good enough to hold a franchise, HOFer, Super Bowl winning QB to 17 points.
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That was one play. That was not a great defense. It was better than what they have had since but it wasn't great by any means.
They held Manning and the Colts to 17 points in that game. It was more than one play. They were far from a mediocre unit.
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That's cute and all, but sometimes you're down in the game, even using your run run run style. It's not always 41 points that we need, but this guy is hopeless when we need just 4.
lol, what? he did?
When have Bills been down in a game when they commit to the running game?
Usually if the Bills run the ball 25+ times they win the game.
It's a better path to 10-6 than their last two, pass-first game plans.
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It's unreasonable to hope that Taylor will turn into a pocket passer like Matt Ryan.
Taylor is dual threat, read option QB. He's the same type of QB who has led Seattle, Kansas City, Denver, Carolina, and San Francisco to the playoffs and even the Super Bowl.
He is actually pretty good in this role. He has a strong YPC, a good number of rushing TDs, throws well of the edge, and a ridiculously low number of turnovers.
When the Bills committed to the run the past two seasons, they usually win. The problem is that the coaching staff doesn't always commit to the run. They call plays where they expect Taylor to play like Matt Ryan, which is crazy.
So do the Bills cut bait on him? The easiest way to make this decision is to run the Broncos/Tebow plan.
Like the Broncos, the Bills should commit to playing to their QBs strengths (which also happen to be the team's strengths). And at the end of the season, decide if the results are good enough. If ownership likes the results, sign him. If they don't, cut him and find someone who better fits their preferred style of play.
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The Saints?
The team that sealed their SB win with pick six off a first ballot HOF QB? I don't know, maybe?
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It'll be interesting to see the different packages Rex and Co. called on 3rd downs.
The Bills were beasts on 1st and 2nd downs and crap on 3rd. Hopefully this isn't due to Rex and Rob out smarting themselves with weird packages and calls.
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In order for TT to win the SB as the Bills QB the D would have to be like the Bears, Bucs, or Ravens during their championship years. Anything less than that and it just isn't happening.
Keep searching till they find a guy who is good enough to win a SB without an all time great D.
How many teams won the Super Bowl with a mediocre defense? Even HOFer Brady needed his defense to bail him out for his last SB win.
Just about every SB winning team team has had a great defense. Not every SB winning team has had a great QB.
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Make a Decision on what results. The fact henis not good enough so you continually hide him every week.
Let say you do that and make the playoffs some reason, you would really pick up the option of a QB that you take the ball out of his hands
Who says you're taking the ball out of his hands? He's the best option QB in the league and he rarely turns the ball over. In the team's 4 wins, he's been a key factor.
The Bills can win with him at QB if the coaches call the game to his strengths.
There are many successful teams in the league with dual threat QBS. Not every super bowl winner was led by QBs who have Marino-like skills.
This season, if the Bills run more than the pass, they usually win. When they pass more than run, they lose.
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At end of day i am at the point that if Taylor continue this play next week i would make a switch at the Bye week.
But the Bills wont for better or worse they are tied to Taylor this year because of the looming decision on his option
At mid season, I'd rather see them double down on their strength than have them try to win with a rookie QB playing with their 3rd, 4th, and 5th string receivers.
You make that move the last few games of the season, not mid season.
Run a heavy option offense the rest of the season and make the decision on Taylor based on the results.
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And you know this how. One thing that is known for sure is Taylors throwing the ball isnt good enough.
I don't know for sure.
But I do know that this team has won games over the last two years by running and playing defense.
I do know that at 4-4 the Bills still have a shot at the playoffs.
I do know that a teams like the Chiefs, Panthers, and Seahawks made the playoffs with duel threat QBS.
I do know that Buffalo's already weak corps of receivers has been devastated by injury, making the likelihood of any QB (especially a 4th round project) turning in a 300 yard game remote.
I know that in the parity laden NFL, teams that don't turn over the ball greatly increases the effectiveness of their defense.
So that's why I would hold off on giving Jones his shot at this time. I'd rather see the Bills double down on the run game and defense.
And if they end up 4-9, then put Jones in there.
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So i ask shake it up if your going to hide the QB lets see what Cardale has.
But no lets stay where we are and hope we dont need the QB arm to win going forward
Maybe the last four games, but if you put Jones in there, he'd get killed. Don't know if you noticed, but this Oline's pass protection suuuucks. They are way better at run blocking. A 4th round project, even with his high ceiling skill level, would get slaughtered.
Again, considering that this team was built to run the ball, and that they have massive injuries at WR, and at 4-4 they still have an outside shot at the playoffs, I'd much rather see them commit to playing to their strength by running the ball.
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Gilly averaged over 7 YPC on only 12 carries, good thing TT threw 38 balls, many when we were within reach.
38 balls with the top three WRs out or playing injured.
This team needs to run the ball 75% of the time to win. When the fall short of that and lose, it's on the coaching staff.
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Cant keep winning hiding your flawed QB. Instead gotta get a better QB
Ok. Where do we get the better QB? Can we get him before next week? Before the bye? Before the playoffs?
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Shady, of course, is a big factor. But Gillislee has put up strong numbers, this year and last.Talking about Shady i see
Systematically, the Bills have a sound running game. The Oline is much better run blocking than pass blocking.
There's no reason to abandon it, regardless of the injury situation, especially in the first half.
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You and I have very different views of what' "highly effective" means.
I guess. Highly effective to me means leading the league in rushing and the main factor in winning 4 games this year.
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Ok so its Lynn to blame. So we have come back full circle blaming the OC for the lack of QB play
If your crusade is that Taylor is not a 300 ypg passer, congrats you win.
But he is highly effective in a run-first, shot offense, especially when backed by a strong defense.
So, yeah, it's on the coaches. If they commit to the run game, they can win and make the playoffs. If they don't, well just take look at the last two games.
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Congratulations bills fans one step closer to 20 consecutive non-playoff seasons
20 is a given. It'll be 20 by the time ownership realizes that Rex is .500 career coach at best and finally decides to fire him.
OK, let's do this: Tyrod Taylor
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But he has won a game where the Bills were down by 3, so the mendoza line for clutch is 4, right? Clutch is not answering opponent with a TD drive. Not runs for first downs on third and long. Not winning a game when the team is 0-2 and his OC has been fired.
Down by 4. Gotcha.