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Perry Turtle

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  1. right - but they are not like a case where someone transposed a number wrong on an evidence bag and it got tossed out.

    those are major flaws in the nfls system still. arbitrarily making up a punishment is a pretty MAJOR technicality, even if the person committed the infraction.

    It calls into question the ability for the Comissioner to protect the integrity of the league under the current CBA. The fix for this is a byzantine set of codes and punishments in the next CBA, which undoubtably will be exploited by guys like Belichick ("the rules don't explicitly say that you can't do that").

  2. for trade bait you pitch him as a #1 guy in a better situation, with either a better QB or being considered the #1 (or both). Compare him to the breakout Antonio Brown had when Wallace left Pittsburgh.

     

    As high as expectations are for this year, odds are quite high we're not winning it all. How often has a new coach done that? Truth is it will take a year or so to see what we have, and for the new staff to make all the changes they need. Having an additional 1st round pick next year would totally compliment that. If Woods projection will be around 600 yards this season, I have no problem trading that away given our depth

    Right, so take a guy who is almost is the perfect definition of an NFL #2 receiver and sell him as a #1, because other teams are stupid like that. I mean most other teams don't have scouts, or film, or GMs with half a brain.

     

    To the 2nd point, why my just trade Dareus then, if the Bills know they're not going to win it all. I mean, he'll definitely return a coveted #1 pick (unlike Woods), and he's been complaining lately.

     

    Of course that's a joke. I don't think you'll find anyone on te the Bills leadership team who doesn't believe that this team isn't ready to win now. They won't trade players who they believe can help them win games this year, and Woods is one of those players.

  3. here I thought if Woods was the player they thought on draft day, they wouldnt have to pay up so much to draft watkins the very next year

    Woods was always thought of as a solid #2 WR. He's thought to be a top-notch possession guy. Watkins is the game breaker, #1 guy. They complement one another. Woods is exactly the player the Bills thought he was on draft day.

     

    That's why teams that are hurting won't offer much in a trade. Green Bay and Carolina are only interested in #1 WRs, as they are stocked with #2 guys.

     

    The Bills are in win-now mode. While it's nice to stock-pile #1 picks, dumping Woods is only going to hurt their chances to make the playoffs this year. Harvin can't run the route tree like Woods and the rookies will be too green to be as consistent as Woods.

     

    So if by some miracle some desperate team offers the Bills a #1 pick, it only hurts their chances to make the playoffs this year, which makes it even more unlikely that they would make this trade.

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    That we gave up an asset for a RB that could have been gotten by getting a similar RB in FA.

    Honestly, given the shoddy evidence provided, I wouldn't be confident answering that question either way.

     

    I do believe the league will punish .... probably Brady, maybe the Pats, depending on how they feel about the possibility of dragging this on.

     

    If they punish the Pats there is nothing the Pats can do about it. If they punish Brady, I would expect an appeal, at least.

    Totally disagree with your interpretation of the evidence, but when a punishment is announced and Brady chooses to appeal, Brady and the Pats will be forced to be much more forthcoming than they were in the preliminary investigation. My guess is that will not go well for them.
  5. That we gave up an asset for a RB that could have been gotten by getting a similar RB in FA.

    That's if all other things remain equal. You're making the assumption that Chip doesn't trade McCoy to a team other than the Bills. If Chip was determined to dump McCoy, regardless of the trading partner, McCoy might have ended up in Oakland or Jax. The Bills would have found themselves in a bidding war for Murray, which would have cost them much than they're paying McCoy.

  6. This trade reminds me of the Eric Dickerson, Cornelius Bennett, Greg Bell trade, except we are getting the great RB on the downside of his career and the Eagles are getting the young stud LB....

    In Dickerson's first 3 years as a Colt (40 games), he ran for over 4,000 yards and 27 TDs. Hardly qualifies as a downside.

     

    In the three seasons before the trade, the Colts won a total of 12 games. The three seasons after, they won a total of 26. Dickerson made the Colts a much better team.

     

     

    Buffalo posted their worst rushing numbers in their history last season, while posting some of the best defensive numbers. If McCoy and the running game are able to generate post trade Dickerson rushing numbers, they will be a playoff team the next three years.

  7. Yeah, the notion that Alonzo would have fetched an elite QB is absurd.

     

    This is a great example of an opportunity trade. The Bills found a motivated seller and acquired a top 3 player at his position.

     

    I have a feeling that Foles is going to be bait to move up in the draft. Chip wants Mariota. The Bears could be interested in Foles and a bunch of draft picks (in a two or multi team deal). If that happens, Cutler could be available, if the Bills really want him.

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    Under previous regimes I'm not so sure this would have been a good deal for the Bills, but if they get McCoy and use him like a fature back and do't just give him 10-12 carries a game, I think McCoy will produce.

     

    I think Spiller could have produced as well, but it's hard when they give a guy 8 carries in the first half then fall behind and abandon the run in favor of 40 passes in the second half - no back is going to put up good numbers like that. They say Rex and Roman want to pound the ball, so if they do and McCoy is truly a feature back I think this a good deal for Buffalo (oh, and the Bills have to get a pair of guards who are starting caliber NFL guys as well).

    The knock on Spiller coming out of college was that he wasn't a workhorse back. Even during his best season under Chan, this was proven true as he split carries with Fred. McCoy is a workhorse back. He's a combination of the best of Fred and CJ. I have a feeling that the Bills rivals are much more worried facing McCoy than they were facing Spiller (or Alonzo, for that matter).

  9. Incognito has never played on an NFL team that has posted a winning record. So while he does play dirty, and dirty play has helped some players contribute to winning teams, there's no evidence that Incognito's own brand of mayhem has resulted in wins for his teams. In fact, the last three years he played for the Rams, they won 6 games, total.

     

    I get wanting a bully on the field, but there's a difference between being a bully on the field and being one in the locker room. Playing to the echo of the whistle does help set a tough-minded, winning tone on the field. Race baiting, sexual harassment, and trying to spread your own sociopathic philosophy of life to unsuspecting teammates contributes nothing to a winning environment.

     

    No doubt, when you grade out the Bills guards, they have a bunch of D and F level guys. If Incognito is only a C level player, and not even a B level one, the risk is not worth the reward.

     

    Sure he made a Pro Bowl, but so did Rueben Brown. In fact, Brown made several Pro Bowls. Was Brown good enough that if he brought the asinine level of distraction to the locker room that Incognito has brought to every team he has played for, would the Bills have put up with it? Probably not.

     

    Maybe a guy who has been kicked off of just about every team he has ever played for has finally learned his lesson. Or maybe the Bills have just bought themselves a s##t storm of a carnival that could overshadow everything else they do.

     

    Realistically, if the Bills don't acquire at least one, preferably two starting level guards, they are committing malpractice. At this point, penciling Incognito as the starter is a huge gamble.

  10. The "football men" he might hire are all unemployed now so how about a nice dinner at Tempo?

    Like I said I'll believe it when I see it.

    Right now I'm going to assume he will follow the DR path and give Brandon/Whaley/Marrone enough rope to hang themselves before he makes any moves.

     

    I now know this is an extremely unpopular opinion that evokes blind rage in some fans.

    The Sabres made the playoffs the season Pegula bought them. They took the Flyers to seven games. Pegula had to make the decision to blow up a playoff team or to try to add resources to improve it. Maybe if the Sabres missed the playoffs, Pegula's choice would have been different.

     

    I doubt that he would make many changes if the Bills lost in the first round of the playoffs, he'd work to address the key issues on the team. However, if the Bills miss the playoffs, he has shown that he is willing to change to plan B, and will make the necessary changes to execute the plan.

  11. As the owner of the Sabres, Pegula has improved both the facilities and operations of the orgaization. He remodeled the locker room and built the Harbor Center, both meant to attract and retain players and staff. He's grown the scouting staff, purchased the Amerks to re-establish them as the farm team, and brought in "hockey" people to run the operation, even if all hires didn't work out (LaFontaine, Patrick, Murray). He's also contributed to the culture of the team by honoring alumni. He's offered financial support to back the decisions made by the "hockey people." In a recent interview, Tim Murray has indicated that Pegula is willing to eat a contract if the Staff decides to send a veteren to the minors.

     

    It's not too far off to believe that Pegula will follow a similar course with the Bills. He'll improve their operations by bringing in 'football' guys to make decisions and improve the scouting department. He'll improve the facilities to compete for top coaching talent and free agents, ultimately resulting in plans for a new stadium. He'll contribute to the Bills culture, honoring players from the past.

     

    I look at it this way. Next year, Mike Babcock, one of the best coaches in the NHL, is going to be a free agent. If he wants to test the market, Pegula can show him first-rate facilities to attract talent, plus he can show him the Harbor Center, which will be hosting development camps, combines, NCAA games, and international competitions all through the year, right across the street from his office. He'll have access to the leagues largest scouting staff, and can shuttle players to his farm team on a couple hours notice. Oh, and Pegual can afford to pay his coach the top salary in the league. Think this might be attractive to Babcock, or any other top coaching prospect?

     

    I think Pegula will try to recreate this with the Bills. He'll evolve the facilities, infrastructure, and operations to ensure that the Bills can compete with the rest of the league for top talent at management, coaching, and player levels.

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